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Posted By: p/allen
Subject: PICS ,saving Petes but
Date Posted: September-30-2007 at 11:26pm
Wendy and I just happen to be in the neighborhood of Fontana Wi. So we took some pics of these cool boats . By the time we got there , there was between 40-50 boats Im guessing . I dont know a lot about them . I do know the first one is brand new one made by Gage-Hacker,26 foot with a Mercruiser and a v-drive with a velvet drive . This boat will set you back about 300,000 clams.!!!!
notice copper color on all the things that are normaly chrome 
I have more if you want to see them .  ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
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Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-30-2007 at 11:31pm
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tease.................... ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: copcraft
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 12:39am
| Thanks for the pictures. It is unbelievable to see wooden boats that old in that beautiful condition. My hat is off to those guys, imagine the work involved... |
Posted By: 69 Mustang
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 1:35am
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Great pics.
Would love to know more about that 9 Flyer. Mike ------------- For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. "Where the **** are we?" Amelia Earhart. July 2, 1937 |
Posted By: Munday
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 1:37am
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i like the Ventor the best ------------- If the only tool you have is a hammer,everything starts to look like a nail. |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 2:20am
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yeah, the ventnor's are pretty sweet looking boats as long as they're IN the water like the should be, on trailer they just look weeiird hahaha. Love those wood boats, I'll have one of my own soon enough...
Nate ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 2:33am
Buy this one for 38,500 clams.
------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 7:29am
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Pat, Thanks! I'm glad someone was thinking about getting pictures. I was too but my son was in from school for the weekend and I needed to get him out of bed because he wanted to go with. Running late and just ran out the door. I had even charged two sets of batteries! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 10:15am
Many thanks for the pics Pat! 
I like the one with the blue bench seats. Can anyone tell me a little more about it? Thanks again  ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 10:22am
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thats better than a victoria secrets catalog ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 10:23am
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Greg, There are several with blue bench seats. The new Gage Hacker with the 350 Merc, The 1920 Swedish launch, the pre war Chris utility and the Chris Capri (runabout). Which one? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 10:32am
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The Chris Capri? 7th from the top, bright blue bench seats and 'coppered' trim.
My bad LOL ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 10:39am
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Pete, do you remember my story about the old Sheppard I hauled for my old boss? anyways we put it on the flat bed bacerds and at about 65 mph i seen the windshield go flying in the rear view. I almost got fired from that job about 40 times because of things like this, one other story that sparks my memory was i was working at the Cleveland Grand prix on stand by in case one of the gen-sets failed, i was in a company pick up and i decided to shuttle people up into downtown, it was a long walk and i think i was charging 3 or 4 bucks a person, i ended up asking the VP's son if he needed a ride for a couple bucks and he told me who he was....he got the ride for free.. i sorta got in trouble ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 11:07am
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Greg, I'll get some specs on the boat when I get home and can look up all the details. The Capri was a very popular model and Chris made lots of them. The most unusual was the 57 that had white tail fins to match the 57 cars!!
Eric, So you have been "wheeling and dealing" from a early age!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 12:00pm
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the windshield set the owner back 5 grand, i got in trouble in 2nd grade for selling my own raffle tickets that i made up, i think thats when it all started.
I always thought the lines on the one chris couldnt be matched, even today, the way it swoops in by the transom, that is real art ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 12:10pm
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I think you guy's know this but CC's are my alltime favorite boats....... Chris Crafts ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: SeattleFordFan
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 1:40pm
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Great Pics, I really enjoy the style and lines of the older wooden boats. Just the classic look...
Thanks for sharing.. ------------- Travs Where there is a will, there is a way, and where there is a way, it usually costs more money. 1980 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 3:21pm
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A number of years ago, I went to the Minneapolis Boat Show. There was an old woody up there that was about 30' long. It was a custom made one of a kind for some famous rich guy that I don't remember now. The only thing I do rememeber is that it had a V12 airplane engine in it that I think was out of a P51 Mustang. It was gunned at over 60MPH and was the prettiest thing I've ever seen. Maybe Pete knows something about this boat and can check my lack of memory. Anyway it was very cool and also worth a LOT of money.
By the way, whatever that 9 Flyer is above is unbelieveable. That thing is awesome. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 3:48pm
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Eddie, Don't know exactly which boat you saw because there were quite a few. The Liberty engine was used extensively in racing because it was cheap surplus after the war.
Here's the description; The Packard 4M-2500 engine was utilized in all U.S. Navy World War II PT boats. This engine was based on the 1925 Liberty aircraft engine which was earlier converted for marine use in racing boats. During the war the Packard engine went through various performance updates and modifications. With early engines rated at 1100 h.p. and progressing to 1500 h.p. during the war. The Packard 4M-2500 engine was a supercharged, water cooled, gasoline powered V-12 engine, weighing approximately 2900 pounds. Here's the picture: 
We don't want Reid to see this!! He'd have one in a Mustang to see if he could out run Marshall!! The 9 Flyer is a Ventnor reproduction. (it's new) 67 Nautique 312, Does the engine in it look familiar? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 4:05pm
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lotta iron for a little horsepower, in terms of that size ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 4:22pm
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Wow Pete, thanks. Kinda brings new meaning to the term "power to weight ratio" doesn't it? Still 1100 HP in a boat!!!! That would get some attention.
The boat that I saw I keep thinking had a Rolls Royce V12 in it. Is that a possibility Pete or am I not recalling something correctly? Which would not be the first time. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 4:59pm
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Eric, That's 1500 HP at about 3000 RPM. No reduction gearing required and I think they were swinging 18 or 20" props! I don't think you could get the torque they produced through a PCM ether!
Eddie, I do remember something about Rolls Royce and will do some research. I do know that there were a lot of car manufacturers making the Liberty engine. It was one of the first engines with interchangeable parts. I do think Rolls was making them as well. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 8:02pm
Greg Heres another one of the copper trim.
 ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 8:13pm
Eddie If Im not mistaken , this one had a 12 in it . Maybe Steve or Alan would remember .
 ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 8:41pm
How did you know I wanted to see the dash?
I really like that boat...and will be looking! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 9:53pm
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Eddie, I can't find a specific boat with the Rolls engine. One of my nice hard cover books on old wood race boats is up north on my coffee table. I do however have some more info. The Rolls Royce "Merlin" V12 was used in the P51's. It wasn't as popular a engine for a boat as the Liberty but it was used. I'll get up north over Christmas and see what boats are in that book. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 11:33pm
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Those PT boats also had 3 of those engines in them.P51 Mustangs used Packard Merlins,heres more info than you'd ever want to know-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Merlin ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 12:07am
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Pete What is the name of the book you have? What is on the cover ? I have several Chris Craft books .
Greg the 3rd pic down is the last one for the copper . 
------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 12:39am
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Yum I believe you guys are off on the v-12 motor.. packard.. what ever your guess was.
P51 - air plane PT= boat = what Kenndy cruised around in. What was very commonly used in speedboat's/early hydroplanes was a V-16 Rolls-Royce engine that was twin turbo charged and out of the P51 airplane WWII fighter. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 1:27am
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I believe Pete was asking about the earlier Paragons, alot of these boats utilized whats called over center clutches that would knuckle into forward and alot of times you would apply and hold pressure on the lever for reverse, after the normally dry clutch the power was transmissted into a gear set (mechanical) like what you see on the back of the Packard, the landing craft used them and im sure anything else of that era used mechanical means to turn the prop. hydraulic boat transmissions came along exactly when, I dont know. If i had to guess it would be the early to mid 60's ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 8:02am
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Pat, The book I have I believe is " race boats of a by-gone era" ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 11:52am
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After seeing these pictures I'm kind of bummed I didn't make it. Those are some kick ass boats you don't see everyday. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 12:19pm
I was wondering what happened to you! My son came with and I thought you could have talked ski team/club together. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Hollywood wrote:Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 12:38pm
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Went out skiing on Powers instead Pete. I only had a few hours on the water so wanted to max it out. I was a little late as is from walking the dog and had some guests waiting on me.
If your kids don't mind a little chill, I'd be happy to have them out with us one of these weekends. The water is still in the mid 60s it ain't bad at all. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 12:57pm
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HW, Thanks for the invite as I'm sure my kids would enjoy it. With all the time they spend with practice/shows all summer long I'm always surprised they only have one thing on their minds - Let's go sking!! The only problem is my daughter is at school at northern Il. and my son went back to northern Mich. this year. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 1:08pm
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Pete,
Where in Northern Michigan? Brownie is up on Glen Lake near Traverse City and can never find anyone to ski with this time of year. Good move on telling HW Darcie is at school! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 1:19pm
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Chris, It's in Marquette on the other side of the bridge in the UP. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 10:48pm
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I saw what I think is the same boat in an ad today with the chrome hardware...much better!
http://marinabayonlakelanier.com/about-marina-bay.html - Capri? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 11:31pm
more pics
 ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 11:41pm
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That gentleman's runabout above is pretty sweet, would be a weird feeling to drive one of those & basically not be able to see the horizon at all. Also, i dunno just not a fan of the copper boat, that boat was chrome originally & those boats look awesome with all that chrome, i dunno why you'd want to kinda "tone it down" though i guess it does make it stand out a bit more. to each their own though, still a pretty boat.
Nate ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 1:10am
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Pete,
What is the boat above, Morin Boats, with the front of helm mounted engine? It almost looks like it could be modern built or is it an old original? Really neat either way. The more pic's I see the sorrier I am that we were unable to make it there over the weekend. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 1:28am
Pat, I emailed Dave Moritz and he's pretty sure Miss Rosie runs a BB Chevy.. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 1:37am
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Thanks Steve I wasnt sure. I just was thinking that there was a v-12 and that was it . ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 8:21am
Chris, The Morin is a reproduction of a gentlemans racer. Don't know the exact year but it's not more than 10 years old. There are a few custom builders around that will build 1 or 2 boats a year. It is a very specialized market. Streblow is still building the same wood boats with minor mods over the years. 99% of them go to lake Geneva. They will not build on spec. but are considered one of the few wood boat buiders still around. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 8:27am
Greg, The boat in the ad is a Riviara which was pre Capri but pretty much the same boat. You can tell easy because it doesn't have the bull nose stem. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 12:22am
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Thanks Pete, what do you mean by "they will not build on spec"? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 7:25am
Just like building a house on "spec" or the speculation of a sale. They must have a buyer with big bucks first! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 11:12am
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Great pics Pat, thanks for putting them all up. We attended that show a few years ago and the Abbey is a great setting for it with most of the boats in the water. Did you stick around for their end of day boat parade? That's a real treat, the sound is incredible. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 12:01pm
Alan, I invited Barney but he had to work GL Sat. and Sun. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 12:10pm
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Now you knew I wanted to make a decible comment didn't you but I held it in. Has that show ever been hassled Pete. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 12:43pm
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Alan, Never!! Here's one of the water patrol boats. It was repowered several times and has twin big block Mercs in it now and no mufflers! It by the way is a old Hacker Craft.
Lots of old boats running with the old straight pipes infact, I think all the Streblows still are without mufflers.  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 12:55pm
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Pete, I've seen that one docked at the other end of the lake In Lake Geneva. Do as I say not as I do, eh? ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 1:32pm
Not really, the noise isn't a issue on Geneva unless it is so offensive say with a over the transom exhaust on a jet. I really think this is the norm in the state and the authorities will use the ordinance only on the problem boats. I think Barney in GL is the exception! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 2:28pm
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From a quick Google search
Miss Rosie U-235 1997 Gold Cup hull with 1998 Chevy 468 Owned by Tom Costello of Coloma, Michigan Miss Rosie is a replica boat loosely designed after Gail's Roostertail, the last stepped hydro to compete in the Unlimited Class. She was designed to be able to run on local lakes when muffled and has all the required safety equipment for pleasure running. The idea was to create a boat that looked like a old-time racers but can be used for pleasure boating. She has run in numerous vintage events since she was built. Currently, her picture is featured on the APBA website under Categories, Vintage. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 4:12pm
Pete, That Patrol Boat has been out there a long time, remember seeing it as a kid when my dad's bud Stew had us up to his place on Lake Geneva regularly, Stew had an old 4 banger Woody Chris for us kid's to use & ski behind and a giant twin BB offshore style with the name "Poverty Sucks", even skied behind the big boat a few times. Another thing on Lake Geneva that is pretty cool, if it still exist's, is that they deliver the US Mail via the water. PS, no I never got a ride in that Cop boat, at least that particular one anyways! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 6:35pm
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Chris, That Patrol boat was purchased new in 1948. It was the first boat they had and now have a total of 5 on the lake. They really keep it in great shape and is actually the preferred boat!
I think the mail delivery by water has ended. We had it up in Three Lakes until I believe 1970. It started when there were no roads to some of the houses. Even today the roads are a challenge. I have friends across the lake that it takes me 5 minutes to get to by jumping in the aluminum fishing boat whereas 25 minutes if I go by car. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: SeattleFordFan
Date Posted: October-04-2007 at 7:01pm
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I really like the lines of the patrol boat, its a beautiful craft... Almost worth getting chased, just to see her go... ------------- Travs Where there is a will, there is a way, and where there is a way, it usually costs more money. 1980 Ski Nautique |