1967 Mustang
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Topic: 1967 Mustang
Posted By: Riley
Subject: 1967 Mustang
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 8:53am
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This is our Mustang. It's a perfect project boat for us. The hull is in really good shape, with few scratches. It needs a floor, trans rebuild, and some tlc.
Before winter goal is to clean it up and remove the floor and all of the foam, (almost done with that). In the spring, it will get a new floor and trans rebuild. Long term goals are to reupolster the seats, side panels, and wet sand. http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/88Skier/67Mustang9-30-2007001.jpg - http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/88Skier/67Mustang9-30-2007001.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/88Skier/67Mustang9-30-2007019.jpg - http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/88Skier/67Mustang9-30-2007019.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/88Skier/67Mustang9-30-2007007.jpg - http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/88Skier/67Mustang9-30-2007007.jpg |
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Posted By: 66Skylark
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 1:06pm
Very nice boat Bruce. I love the color. 
Good luck with the project and keep the pictures coming... Kyle |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-01-2007 at 10:39pm
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That is one nice Mustang,but I'd be quite upset if I took it to have a cover made and it came back with all those snaps on the side.The PO's of mine wasn't shy with a drill either! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 1:35am
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Bruce,
Going to be a nice ride ... Will be a great family project! Did you get any interior with it? Keep us posted with pics! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 10:11am
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The boat came with the original interior. One side panel is rotted. The other just needs to be re upolstered. The seat are original and can be used for now.
I pulled the fuel tank and am thinking of replacing that, but I'm hoping I can find someone to survey it and tell me if it needs replacement or not. It wasn't leaking, but is pretty rusty in one spot, and the 2 hoses were rotted. I got a price on a new custom tank of $332. I'm not crazy about the location of the snaps, but what can you do? If a guy did that to me on a new boat, I'd want him to buy the boat. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 10:28am
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Bruce, I've done it with lots of vintage gas tanks and have never had a problem. Look into coating the inside of the tank and then repainting the outside. You can get the coating kits or have it done. Some radiator shops do the coating. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 11:22am
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Bruce,
A friend of mine runs a radiator shop and in some gas tanks you can put whats called a http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm - liner in it. The kit is liquid and comes in cans. He uses the hi-tech way of rolling the tank around by hand to coat the inside. Make sure you have the tank pressure checked to verify there are no pin holes in it from the rust first! You could also check with Moeller or Tempo to see if either company has a universal plastic tank that would be close to your original. btw, does the boat have a gas gauge? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 11:30am
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Steve, What the $#%%!! A plastic tank in a 67?? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 11:36am
Pete Dont have a coronary man!!! Its BEHIND the back seat and I would much rather have a new, plastic tank than a questionable/ leaky metal original..
All Im saying is on a boat like this, a plastic tank could be a safe and economical fix... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
8122pbrainard wrote:Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 12:00pm
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Riley, Tempo makes a replacement 18 gal.
46 3/4 long x 10 1/4 x 10 part #TP18SC Hold Down #654 TCI This may be a tad larger than stock but it will fit...........boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 4:08pm
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Boat dr, that's the ticket, $149.95! I want to keep the boat original, but have no problem with switching the fuel tank over to plastic. I'll probably also remove the copper fuel line and replace it with rubber fuel line and install a water/seperating fuel filter.
The boat has a manual fuel guage in the tank with the window on the transom deck. I think that is a cool feature of the boat and would like to keep that. I will see if Tempo still makes the gauge and if the plastic tank will work with one. Boat dr, Eric L. thought you had an Eaton tranny in your boat at one time. Have you worked on it? Is it difficult to remove? I'm told mine needs a rebuild, but thought I'd wait till spring and get the boat going and see what the problem is. I am hoping that if I change the fluid, it might work ok, (wishful thinking on my part). PO said it slipped, and didn't go into forward or reverse too well. For all I know, it's low on fluid. I haven't even checked it. On the other hand, if it does need a rebuild, I'm better off doing it during the winter, especially if I find someone locally that can do it, because our winter are so long and boating season so short. Pete, I will check with the local radiator shops, but if a 40 yo tank is questionable, I'd rather replace it. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 4:20pm
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Bruce, What engine is in the boat? Some Interceptors had the Dearbomatics. I don't know what the parts supply is for them but do know a couple people who are into them if Eric has a hard time with the parts.
See what the liner in the tank will do. I've had some with pin holes that the coating will take care of. The shop doing the coating will know for sure. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 4:24pm
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Bruce,
I use metal brake line for fuel line 
I ran it along the stringers and installed a shut off valve just above and to the side of the tranny. I still have a steel tank, so I do check it and the fuel line at least once a year.. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 4:44pm
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Riley, My '64 came with a H/M 260 CI and a Dearbomatic.Replaced with 302 and now she has a 331 stroker,with a beefed up Velvet Drive.
Still have the Dearbomatic sitting on my floor, shifts great and half the weight of the B/Warner. Will be willing to sell if you need......... ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 4:44pm
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The engine is an Interceptor, 170 ci, 100 hp. It has an Eaton "C" model tranny.
According to the manual, Interceptor is made by Eaton Manufacturing Co./Dearborn Marine Engine Division. Eaton and Dearbomatic are probably related. The tranny is different than the one in Steve's boat. My engine is also a little different. The alternator and RWP appear different, the fuel pump is just behind the RWP, and the carb stands straight up. Ironically, in exchange for a donation to CCF, Reid P. mailed me a copy of an Interceptor Tech Manual this past spring, which is the correct manual for my engine. All the pics match and everything. |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 4:48pm
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Boat dr, thanks for the offer, I'll keep that in mind.
Also my engine isn't pretty like Steve's. It's pretty rusty and peeling right now. I just called a radiator shop. $500 to $600 to pressure test and coat. The guy highly recommends going to plastic. BTW, Tempo make a manual gauge for the tank.$50. Another thing about Steve's engine, it looks like he has a straight piece of exhaust hose going from the manifold to the transom. Hopefully I can do that. I have removed an "s" shape piece of hose that goes from the maifold to a pipe that connects to a straight piece of hose. The "s" shape piece looks like radiator hose from a big truck. |
Posted By: Barracuda
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 5:02pm
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Riley- That's a great project boat for you and the boys. They must be thrilled.
------------- Former: http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=759" rel="nofollow - '86 Nautique http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=507" rel="nofollow - '65 Barracuda |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 5:05pm
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Bruce,
$500 to 600 to test and line the tank!!!! Hope that comes with the vasoline!
As for the "pretty" engine, it didnt always look like that... 
I did a "rattle-can" rebuild.. you can see the gas line and fuel filter in this "before" pic. I think the exhaust hose was a p.o. job. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 5:17pm
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Brad,the boys are thrilled. We made the road trip to get it on the 22nd, and have spent all of the 23rd, 29, & 30 washing, waxing, dismantling and chipping out foam. They can't get enough.
Steve, that's a great pic. Did you remove foam? What king of supports are there along the hull that the strapping connect to? Mine doesn't have that. The strapping was supported by foam. Also, how did you connect the strapping to the main stringers? Did you have to add some sort of ledger strip? My engine looks just like that. |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 5:31pm
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Bruce,
I lucked out-no foam! The stapping is screwed into wooden blocks,about 2 1/2" long, that are 'glassed into the side of the hull. The main stringers are notched the width and depth of the strapping, so they mount flush. I might have asked already, how old are your bouys? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 5:36pm
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No foam, you missed out the monotinous job of removing it. All I can think while we're chipping it out is "if they only hadn't done this, and, what were they thinking".
My boys are 13 & 16. My stringers are notched, but under the motor mounts, how did you remove the strapping? I have cut them off, but they are not rotted at that point. |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 5:47pm
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Bruce,
I'll get back with you (got an appointment....damn job ;)...I think these pics were as I found it, after someone elses feeble repair attempt. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 8:29pm
Here's a pic of the Tempo tank Boatdr mentioned. It's a tad bigger, like half an inch in length, width and height. The original metal "long cruise" holds 15 gallons and the plastic tempo holds 18. The only thing different is the vent hose hook up, it's closer to the front edge.
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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 9:46pm
| Where did you buy the tank? Can you get one without the sending unit? How do you anchor it to the boat? |
Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 11:00pm
It came with the sending unit. There are places on the corner edge notched out for a strap to secure it. I wrapped it under the tank and the support boards which it sits on. It was the TP18SC, $149.95. A friend of mine that has a boat shop ordered it for me for one of his suppliers.
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Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: October-02-2007 at 11:35pm
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Riley read the above post where I gave you the part # of the tank and the hold down strap.The L brackets will not work because you can't get to the rear to screw them down....654 TCI is the part number.......... ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 12:09am
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boat dr. I didn't understand "Hold Down #654 TCI", but I do now. That's easy enough.
Thanks for the tank info, that's the way to go, about $200 for the tank and guage, plus whatever the strap kit costs. My friend with the Wildcat will be happy to know that. He's got to replace his tank. What thickness plywood is in those? I ripped 3/8 plywood out, but that seemed too thin. |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 12:09am
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Bruce,
Here's a http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4452&PN=55 - link to a post I did after working on my 64 last year.. In the first pic you can see how I did the outer stringer repair. You can also see the blocks I was telling you about to hold the outer ends of the strapping (btw, I replaced all of them). Hope this might help? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 12:37am
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I went back with 5/8" and epoxy coated both sides, a bit over kill but do not want to do it again.......... ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 12:42am
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Doc,
I did the same last year on my 64! Definately worth the small extra cost...No spongy feel at all... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 2:04am
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Bruce, check this out, http://www.gastankrenu.com/
I have no experence with them, just found them in Hemmings.Might be worth a call but shipping could kill any savings. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 10:10am
Steve has the Paragon mechanical trans in it still. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-03-2007 at 3:21pm
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62, great link on the floor system. I have all winter to study it and figure out how I am going to repair mine. I like the way you did your side panels with no cut outs for storage. I'm kind of getting ahead of myself because my goal for before winter was just to remove the floor and the foam.
However, the more I work on the boat, the more I like it, and the more I want to continue to have at it. But, winter is coming up, it's bird season, then ski season, so it will have to wait. This thread has been very helpful. I'm sold on the idea of a plastic replacement tank with a mechanical guage. (That will be a great Christmas present for the guy who's hard to buy for.) I've got it planned out so that I should be running by next summer, as long as I get the tranny worked out. |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-30-2007 at 3:26pm
This is where I'm at until spring:
 I think the compass is an original option. I'm not sure if I'm keeping it or not.  ">
The panel for the gas peddle may have the original floor covering.  ">
Stringers are in good shape except for the left out one, which needs replacement.  ">
Carter RBS. Does it look like a marine carb?  ">
When you pull the tranny, the inerds of the engine are exposed.  ">
A little frame work in the spring, and the floor will be ready to go in.  ">
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-30-2007 at 6:20pm
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Bruce, Well, it looks like you got over one big problem. Now it will be interesting to hear what Eric finds inside that trans!
What's that banner hanging on the wall in front of the Mustang? It's hard to make out but I think it starts with the letter "M". ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-30-2007 at 6:57pm
Pete, the guy that owns those two Malibus likes having that Mustang between them. I'm hoping to hang a CorrectCraftFan banner next to that Malibu banner, if I can find one.
The carb has a tube that looks like an overflow tube coming out of the bowl. I'm guessing it's a marine carb. PO said it has been rebuilt and the engine runs great. Tranny is being shipped tomorrow. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-31-2007 at 12:22am
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Bruce back in those "old" days I don't think there was such a thing as "marine".My mustang had a stock Ford carb,a regular fuel pump and a mallory distributor,not explosion proof.At first I thought someone took the easy way out and replaced with auto parts,but no, the part manual shows those items.The only thing I have left to change is the fuel pump and I'll do that for next season. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-03-2007 at 8:43am
| Gary, that must why old inboards used to blow up. My engine appears to be all original, except that the carb has probably been changed. If it runs good, I don't have any plans to change it. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-04-2007 at 12:08am
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You hit the nail on the head Bruce.I'm sure new boats do too, it's all about how you take care of them. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-06-2007 at 12:19pm
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I was able to track down the actual build date for the boat and it is a 1966 and not a 1967. It was built on 3-10-66. I suspected that because of the older style deck and hardware. I don't know how it started getting registered as a 67. Fortunately in Maine it is easy to register an old boat. I just have to cross out the 67 on the bill of sale and write in 66 and it will be good enough for them. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-06-2007 at 12:50pm
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Bruce, The boat was built in 66 but it may have sat at the factory or at a dealer before it was sold in 67. In states that have registration and no titling, the years get sloppy. The dealer may have even sold it as a 67.
Have you talked to Eric lately? I haven't seen him post anything on your trans in awhile. Eric, are you getting parts? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: December-06-2007 at 1:22pm
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I know we have discussed CCs inconsistancies in design before. This may be one. To the best of my knowledge, and according to the 1966 brochure posted here and the 66 my family had, the 66 mustangs had the integrated scoop vents in the deck. Bruce's does not. Unfortunately we don't have a 67 brochure. My brothers 67 SkyLark does not have the scoops. I would have guessed Bruce's is a 67, but since I am sure he got good info on mfg date, it must be one of those. If you go through all the 66s in the diaries, its about an even split, those with scoops, those without. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-06-2007 at 1:25pm
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Pete, that is what I figured. I supposedly bought it from a person that bought it from the original owner, so if that is the case, it probably was sold as a 1967. The boat is really a 66, so I'm thinking that is how I should register it.
I spoke with Eric about 2 weeks ago and he said he was working on it between jobs. He says that it is in good condition and just needs a basic overhaul. He said he would call me when it's complete. He figures that it probably was slipping because it had water in it. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-06-2007 at 1:28pm
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Larry, I'm figuring it has the old style deck and hardware because it is an early 1966. It probably took awhile to sell because it had the 100 hp engine. I imagine even back then, it was not the engine that most people wanted. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-06-2007 at 2:07pm
Yup, there certainly were a lot of inconsistencies. 66-67 seems to be the years that CC changed deck styles on the Mustang and Skylark. Bruce's boat has the earlier style used on the American Skiers, while your old '66 looks to have had the later (67-70) style with the scoops. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: May-27-2008 at 12:11am
Finally hauled the engine out this past weekend. Now the fun begins.
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: May-27-2008 at 12:59am
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Looking good Bruce... What does it have for an engine cover? I was wondering if that carb clears ok? My 64 has Cater YH sidedraft.
Heres a pic of it..  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: May-27-2008 at 1:07am
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It's got a fiberglass box like your Barracuda. It does clear it ok. I like where your battery is. I'd like to put mine there if I could, rather than back under the driver's seat. ------------- |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: May-27-2008 at 1:11am
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Bruce,
My son is a welder and made the stainless steel "three-sided box" for it. I could probably get one made for you if you'd like one? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: May-27-2008 at 10:24am
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I'd love one, but do we have the same engine mounts. My front and rear mounts are connected with one piece of wood? It looks like you have a break in yours allowing the battery to sit on the floor. Did you cut yours? ------------- |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: May-27-2008 at 11:57am
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bruce I was just reading through your posts i have a set of side panels that are already re-done white with pockets , I have two factory seats i am not reusing all re done. I am going to glass some ski mounts to my side panels and put pedestal mount seats in mine .. I love some boats to be 100 % original, but i want this one to be more user friendly for me . anyway you are welcome to that stuff if it will help you. I think we are fairly close to each other if you want to meet for them sometime Peter ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: May-27-2008 at 12:40pm
I'll have to check if it was cut.. mine has a wooden, home-made battery box there when I got the boat. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: May-27-2008 at 1:25pm
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Peter, email me your phone number and I'll call you. I'm in Sebago, an hour or less away. The seats and side panels would help me greatly. Thanks! ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: June-10-2008 at 3:51pm
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Making progress, although moving along slowly.
Bildge and main stringers look good. 
I peeled some fiberglass off and the wood looks like new. Looks like Southern Yellow Pine. 
One outer stringer is rotted. The other looks ok. 
Next job is to remove the engine mounts and rip out the rest of the cross members.  ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: June-16-2008 at 12:02pm
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I got the Dearbomatic mounted on the engine over the weekend. Sorry, no pictures. I used a product called Yama Bond 4 for the gasket material. It is available at Yamaha motorcycle shops and is designed for sealing casing halfs. Boat Dr recommended it and several people also said it was the stuff to use in my seach for it.
When installing a tranny on a bacerds facing engine, in order to get the spline to line up, I had to remove the spark plugs and had my son turn the crank, while I finessed the tranny into place. There are 2 studs that the tranny slides onto which prevent rotating the tranny. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-13-2008 at 8:09pm
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Finally got motivated and got the much dreaded replacement of the outer stringers and the strapping completed. For an inexperienced wood worker like me, it was a tedius job that took a whole day, but it came out good. David was very patient and removed the better stringer in one piece, so we had a template. If anyone needs it, I'm saving it.
Got the engine painted, too. 
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-13-2008 at 8:41pm
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All right Bruce!! Look'n good! I see you found the GM blue engine paint. I think it's damn close. Now Steve will have to repaint his 6 in his skier.
The wood is looking good too. Are the boys helping out? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-13-2008 at 9:09pm
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Pete, the color is Detroit Diesel Alpine Green and I think that is the stuff Steve used. It is very close to the Interceptor green based on the paint that was still on the oil filler tube, (under the cap).
Next weekend, I'm going to get the floor cut out and do the fiberglass work on the stringers. I'm going to use exterior 5/8" AC fir plywood. My original plan was to put support blocks where the strapping meets the hull. I am wondering if I need to do that. I left about 1/4" space between the end of the strapping and the hull. Does the hull need the support. If not, I'm thinking about just installing the floor and glassing it to the side of the hull. The boys are helping. David is my oldest. I was ready the just cut it all out with the sawzall and wing it on making the new stringers. He wanted to try to remove one whole for a template and it worked. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-13-2008 at 10:29pm
Well, the color is close like I mentioned!! I thought Steve's was a little greener - it looks that way in the picture above too! Did you look for the GM blue? Of coarse it's hard to tell from color chips - I don't know how close colors come through over the internet. The blocking to the chine probably isn't needed if you glass the ply floor to the hull sides. Are you going to do that? I'd through the blocks in there anyway. Not much work and it's going to give you some extra support. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-13-2008 at 10:55pm
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Bruce,
Yep,my engine is also Alpine Green. However, I just bought the rattle-can Dupli-color stuff at O'Reillys. I saterted out having paint custom mixed from some of the aged original paint off the engine. Had it re-formulated three times...always looked too "baby blue". And Pete, a repaint is very low on my priority list right now! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-13-2008 at 11:09pm
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Looking good Bruce. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-02-2008 at 12:18am
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Getting there. The side sections are done. Middle sections have been cut out, but won't be fit and epoxied until the bilge has been painted and the wiring, steering cable, fuel line and bilge pump have been installed.
I'm going to relocate the battery to either in the floor in the center before the kick plate, or maybe even in front of it.  ------------- |
Posted By: farmer
Date Posted: November-02-2008 at 12:38am
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Bruce,you're making great progress. It must feel great to see it this far along. Gary ------------- Watch your fingers. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-02-2008 at 9:06am
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You see all that was needed was for you to just jump in and do it!! We all knew you could handle it. You're making so much progress that you will ether have to wait for the ice out or trailer it south!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: shawnmc
Date Posted: November-02-2008 at 10:49am
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Bruce,
can't wait to see the boat finished! I will own one of these classics someday. Until then,,,,,,i am living through you all. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-02-2008 at 9:59pm
Bruce, here is my battery box,mine was originally under the drivers seat.Can't remember why I moved it but be careful there is not much depth under there and if you see the bottom of the cover you can see I had to make clearance at the battery post areas.
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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 4:55pm
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Gary, I like the way you did that. That's just what I have in mind.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 6:11pm
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Bruce, looking good!
I put the battery box for my Tique in a similar place- though it was located in the center of the hull originally, rather than under the driver's seat. Our construction methods are a bit different, but I foamed around mine (its forward of the bulkhead) and glassed it in from the floor down. 
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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 6:49pm
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Riley,
I have two battery boxes out of an 83 SN that are fiberglass molded pieces with a flange down from the top, one has the matching wood cover with aluminum trim. Dont know if they would work out but I can take a picture if your interested, hate to throw them out. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 7:07pm
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Joe, If you can take a picture, that would be great. Thanks.
If anyone's wondering how I was able to scribe that plywood to the hull so well, I'll tell you. I'm a real novice when it comes to wood. I looked at the boat all spring and summer because I was a little intimidated. Pretty much just drank beer and looked at it. I wish I had started it in April, because it would have been done for Lake George. Any way it was easy. I snapped a chalk line down the middle of the stringer and drew lines every 2" until the real curvy part of the hull, then 1". I then cut out a piece of plywood for length and width at the widest part of the section. I measured from the chalk line to the hull and had David mark the plywood as I shouted out the measurements to him. I then connected the dots, set the bevel on a cheap jig saw by eye, and cut the edge out. I could not believe how well it fit. Wicked easy. ------------- |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 10:06pm
I never take just one picture ... 
its roughly ten inches from floor level to drain, 13.5 inches wide to the ends of the lip, and 18.3 inches long also to then ends of the lip. Dresden Blue gelcoat ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 10:20pm
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Bruce I just glassed it to the bottom and coated it before I put the floor in.It's held up well even after the pounding it got at GL last year.As you can see I never refoamed.Tim's is neater tho,I never thought to attach the box to the flooring.I made my floor like yours,so I can remove it.I have hopes to find another fiberglass floor pan someday. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-04-2008 at 12:20am
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Joe, I'll take some measurements later this week and get back to you.
Gary, I have a floor pan that Peter1234 gave me. I am not going to use it. It is in pretty good shape. It has some holes in it and some small cracks, but it is pretty decent. It's in Maine though. I'd be happy to give it to you, although I'd want to check with Peter first. ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-04-2008 at 12:37am
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Bruce I guess I'll have to go to Lake George or you'll have to go to Green Lake ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-04-2008 at 12:56am
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I will definately be at Lake George. Steve & Quinner said it was a pretty quick ride from out there. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-04-2008 at 12:20pm
In case anyone is wondering, its a pretty easy task to transport a floorpan inside a 16' boat. I picked this up in Indy on my way back from GL this year- I took the seats out of the Skier and set it right in. (Thanks again Behl!)  ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-04-2008 at 2:19pm
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Tim,
Looks like the hard part is ahead of you now - getting the adhesive and remnants of the carpet off! At least you have the luxury of working on it in the flat right side up. I'm continuing my struggle on trying to remove the abative bottom paint on my X55. (my first time with a ablative) It's taking a toll on my neck and back working on it hanging in my garage. The biggest problem I'm still working on is the type of stripper that will remove the ablative bottom paint. I started with methylene chloride Zip strip and ended up with a gooey mess. I then went with the West remover ($70/gal.)with the same result! Called West and ended up with a "West advisor" that didn't know sh**t!! Called Interlux (bottom paint) and found out this may be a problem. I'm told it's the toughest stuff to remove and won't bubble up like normal paint - just a gooey mess! I've now talked to http://www.starten.com - star 10 and ordered a quart. Found them with a ad they ran in the Rudder magazine. Never again with the ablative bottom paint!! Well, I hope you don't run into the same problem with the carpet adhesive. Don't start with the methylene chloride as it's one of the few solvents that will soften gel. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-04-2008 at 2:57pm
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Tim, What are you going to do with that floor pan? ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-04-2008 at 3:04pm
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Sounds like fun, Pete. Im in no rush to clean the pan up- but I figured I would take some acetone to it when I finally get around to it. That was pretty effective at removing the glue from the gelcoated floor in my '90.
Bruce, I dont have solid plans for the pan as of yet- but there are a few Mustangs in my future, so Ill be holding onto it indefinitely! ------------- |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: November-04-2008 at 3:58pm
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JoeinNY,
I want to move my battery box when I put mine together. let me know if you still have either of these available. Mike ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-12-2008 at 1:17pm
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Joe, Thanks for the offer on the battery box, but I will pass. I am going to put the box in the bilge. That way my foor panel can be removed without disturbing the battery. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-12-2008 at 1:46pm
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Joe, theres a chance I might want one of those boxes for Nick's Skier. Turns out the foor was rebuilt with particle board at one point. The single layer of glass on top isnt doing a great job of keeping the floor from crumbling into the bilge- I think the only thing holding it together is the carpet. Needless to say, it needs a bit of structural work. Im considering options for battery placement, so that box might be a welcome addition. It was previously mounted next to the gas tank- an interesting weight redistribution idea that I may copy. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-26-2009 at 8:44pm
Very productive week end. One more coat of bildge coat and we will start putting it back together.
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Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: April-26-2009 at 10:36pm
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Looks great, dude.
L:et me know if you want the exhaust hose. And stainless J-pipe. I am going to the post office tomorrow or Tues. Mike ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-27-2009 at 2:01am
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Bruce,
Looking good! You wouldnt want to do some joint-scarfing on my Higgins deck, would you? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-27-2009 at 2:19am
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Mike, I'll email you in themorning.
Steve, I'm not sure what's impressing you, I don't even know what joint scarfing is, but I can tell its a compliment. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-27-2009 at 10:40am
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Bruce,
Getting closer!! Looking great! Have you tried to start the engine yet? You can do it on the cradle you built. I'd run it there before you drop it in the boat - just incase. Steve, Are you sure the Higgins deck was scarfed and not just butt blocked? Sure would be easier!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-27-2009 at 11:29am
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Pete, next weekend I've got to finish installing the cutlass and stuffing box, and get the tranny cooler installed. Then I'm going to run the engine on the cradle. The manual states to adjust the reverse band while the engine is running and engine warm if the transmission has been disasembled. There's no room to do it in the boat, so I have to do it on the cradle. I'm going to need help with crossing the wires to make it run as I haven't a clue how to do it. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-27-2009 at 12:02pm
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Bruce,
Connect the battery up just like you would in the boat. When you want to run it, connect a wire from the + to the ballast resistor (white retangular ceramic block with two terminals) on the opposite side that is wired to the coil. (a alligator clip would be handy) The ignition will now be on. (don't leave it connected unless it's running. Now to get the starter to turn the engine over, you will need to get + to the starter solenoid. This should be switched so you can use a small toggle switch or a push button. There will be a small terminal on the starter solenoid. This is the + feed to it's coil. Again run a wire from the + through the switch to the solenoid. Flip the switch or push the button and the engine should turn over. Post some pictures if you have any problems. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-27-2009 at 12:26pm
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-27-2009 at 12:47pm
Actually Pete, I've already got the wood scarfed and ready to glue up. I want to prestain the new, "whiter" mahogany to match the existing stripped wood before I glue the joint. After doing this, I noticed there are actually butt and scarfed joints on the boat? Bruce, Your floor looks really nice-for someone that says their not a woodworker! How are you going to finish the interior sides? Were they spatter painted? My daughter just did that to their old boat. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-27-2009 at 12:57pm
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Steve, Thanks, we winged the floor as we didn't have a pattern. I couldn't believe how good it fit. It took all day just to make those 4 floor panels.
I have side panels, but they're moldy and won't clean up. I decided to paint the sides for now as that is how the original boats came without the optional side panels. We're putting a white vinyl floor down and I'm going to try to get a nice fit right to the hull so it'll look really clean. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-27-2009 at 1:15pm
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Steve,
CC used scarfed hull sides/bottoms and butt blocking on their decks. I've never looked at a Higgins real close?? Pre seal (or reduced varnish) the new ply too before you glue it in. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-27-2009 at 1:21pm
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Im not sure, but did they spatter paint the side in some of these boats? Heres a pic of my daughters first attempt at it...
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2360355720103439384OMRFwZ"> 
this was with the gray base paint and the first coat of white spatter. She needs to go over this with black spatter. She should have done more practice runs, has a few runs, but not too bad for first attempt. This is a link I found on http://www.howdididoit.com/home-garden/spatter-paint-a-floor/ - How to spatter paint I can see it now.... the white base, a green spatter to match your hull, then a little gray or black spatter on top... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-27-2009 at 1:29pm
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I see what you mean by splatter paint, like the old car trunks.
Correct Craft painted them with a solid, similar color as the hull. My Mustang was painted where the side panels didn't cover. I got a decent matching oil paint from Ben Moore. If I like the look, I may leave it like that to cut down on weight. With the 6 banger, it's going to need all the help it can get. Here's a pic out of the ref section. http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reference/1968_brochure/index.asp?page=18 - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reference/1968_brochure/index.asp?page=18 ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: March-16-2010 at 9:39pm
We finally got the bugs worked out of the engine and it is running good and in the boat. Hopefully, this boat will be in the water by Memorial Day.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-16-2010 at 10:09pm
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Bruce,
I understand you found someone that knows all about the Dearbomatic. Fantastic!! Did he say what was wrong with it? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: March-16-2010 at 10:21pm
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Awesome Bruce. Are we going to get to see you at Green Lake then?
What did you ever do about your fuel tank? I am going to have to address that in the SN. I have the Long Cruise 18 gal. but I am afraid it is shot. Mike ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: March-16-2010 at 11:07pm
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BoatDr found someone 7 miles from my house that knows engines and seems to have a fondness for Y blocks and Dearbos. Small world, I used to work with his wife. He thought he knew what was wrong with it before he even saw it. He was right. There's a little disc that goes in the shifter assembly that is easy to reverse. It really doesn't look any different when it's upsidedown, but it won't work right. It was runni9ng good today when we picked it up. I had him drop it in the boat. Major accomplishment. That engine's been out of the boat almost 2 years.
Mike, I'm not sure about Green Lake this year. I believe I bought the last Tempo fuel tank after they were bought by Mueler. Mueler make the same tank, but put the fill in the center. I may try to use our old one if it's still good, just because it's easier to install. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-16-2010 at 11:57pm
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Bruce, thats terrific- its about time that boat was put back together! Im looking forward to seeing it- if not GL, then LG for sure. ------------- |