Correct Craft Trailer Fenders
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Topic: Correct Craft Trailer Fenders
Posted By: TRBenj
Subject: Correct Craft Trailer Fenders
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 1:28am
My Tique needs new trailer fenders. Since generic fenders dont fit or look quite right on a CC trailer, Ive been looking for a shop to make a set for me.
Ive found a local shop that can fab them up based on the one good one that I have. If I have them make several sets at once (~5), the cost is slightly lower. Pricing would be roughly $200 per set, which seems very reasonable to me.
I am wondering how much interest there is in having these fenders reproduced. Judging by the diaries and brochures in the reference section, I believe all the CC single axle trailers from 77-82 used these fenders. It is also quite possible that the later 2001 trailers (83-89) used the same ones. I could confirm that if someone was willing to measure their's.
Here are the fenders in question:
Any takers?
Pete, I know the fenders on your trailer arent original!
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 9:56am
TRBenj wrote:
Pete, I know the fenders on your trailer arent original! |
Tim, I'm not too sure. The PO didn't say that they had been replaced. I guess I was just lucky that I was able to clean mine up some and repaint. One was pretty mangled from a blown tire (the PO liked to use automotive cheap tires!) but with some hammering and some filler it didn't come out that bad.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 11:04am
Pete, no way are those original. Im surprised you didnt notice! They do look great, but maybe you should get an original set- it will make you feel better
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 11:51am
OK Tim, The bottom flanges had rotted off and the PO crudely welded on some old angle he must have found in a field someplace. Yes,I did bend up the non-original diamond plate to replace the flanges plus put the anti-skid pads on the tops!!! It did hurt my strong pro original character but I rationalized it as stepping points. I did have painted on it before the diamond but then everyone climbing into the boat messed up the paint. I know you can appreciate that because I know you certainly like things clean and neat!!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 12:23pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
OK Tim, The bottom flanges had rotted off and the PO crudely welded on some old angle he must have found in a field someplace. Yes,I did bend up the non-original diamond plate to replace the flanges plus put the anti-skid pads on the tops!!! It did hurt my strong pro original character but I rationalized it as stepping points. |
Pete, I wasnt talking about the flanges- the height and angles look different to me. I always assumed them to not be original. They look great, though.
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 1:06pm
I got $5 on Pete "keep it custom" having some taller fenders than original. Tim, they very well may be the same ones through '88, I think the '89s were a bit different the bends aren't as sharp. The fitment may be the same though.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 1:12pm
Hollywood wrote:
I got $5 on Pete "keep it custom" having some taller fenders than original. Tim, they very well may be the same ones through '88, I think the '89s were a bit different the bends aren't as sharp. The fitment may be the same though. |
Thats a bold statement!
Good call on the '89 fenders- they do look a little softer. The overall shape looks the same though, and I bet youre right that they would bolt up fine too. I still gotta confirm that the 2001 dimensions are the same as mine- they did make a jump to a 15" rim in '86.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 1:12pm
Who really knows what was going on down at the Billy-Bob trailer and screen door factory?? (I'll probably get another chewing out from the Doc on this again!!) I have noticed the 2 styles too.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 1:15pm
edit: Pete you may be right on this one. If your trailer is a Low Boy, those could very well be original fenders. It looks like the frame on the low boys extended all the way to the back of the boat, so Im guessing thats the case.
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 1:41pm
I guess I'll be donating $5 to the site... sorry Pete.
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Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 1:48pm
Pete, there you go again with that mindless bantering and gutter talk of the fine craftsmanship that can only be found down here..........
I seem to remember that this type of behavior only surfaces during the long winter nights and cold days that "you guys" tend to have north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Just to clarify one more small detail, Billy and Bob have dissolved their relationship.This is in an effort to add some new genetic material to the gene pool.
The last we heard from Bob was he heading North to open a whore house, having very little start up money , he will run it by hand till it gets on terra firma.
Billy will stay here close,as he and his sister are expecting their first child.The screen door shop does well in the winter here , go figure that.
There is a large workforce to pull from within the small town . Family values stand tall there and everyone is related,one Dad and 4 Moms with 37 kids keeps the Uncle /Aunt /Cousin thing close to home.
Hope this brings you up to speed as to the inside workings of the Billy Bobs Fab Shop...........
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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 2:18pm
ah the dreaded lowboy factor... Tim I will attempt to remember to measure my fenders at lunch today I have to stop out at the shop anyway.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 2:35pm
JoeinNY wrote:
ah the dreaded lowboy factor... Tim I will attempt to remember to measure my fenders at lunch today I have to stop out at the shop anyway. |
That measurement would be great, Joe- but no rush. I havent even measured mine yet, as the boat is a few hours away. Im just trying to get a jump on this project!
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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 3:23pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
Who really knows what was going on down at the Billy-Bob trailer and screen door factory?? . |
Hilarious, My first job out of high school was working at a screen door factory, it's all starting to make sense now.
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Posted By: bmiller
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 3:57pm
TRBenj,those fenders on that Tique trailer,I know they look bad but are they rotted through or can they be sand blasted?
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 4:33pm
bmiller wrote:
TRBenj,those fenders on that Tique trailer,I know they look bad but are they rotted through or can they be sand blasted? |
The right fender looks like swiss cheese... I suspect the left isnt far behind, though there are no holes yet. Trust me, if I could save them, I would!
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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 4:37pm
Well I forgot to get the angle but its about 15.5 across the top, 9 for each angle and the mounting flange is about 2.75 on each side.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 4:47pm
JoeinNY wrote:
Well I forgot to get the angle but its about 15.5 across the top, 9 for each angle and the mounting flange is about 2.75 on each side. |
Should be enough info to figure out if theyre the same. If anyone with an earlier trailer wants to measure theirs for comparison, go right ahead. Otherwise, Ill measure mine in a few weeks when I cruise back to CT.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 7:43pm
TRBenj wrote:
edit: Pete you may be right on this one. If your trailer is a Low Boy, those could very well be original fenders. It looks like the frame on the low boys extended all the way to the back of the boat, so Im guessing thats the case.
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To be completely honest, I really don't know which trailer I have! I also never took a good look at the differences nor have I seen them side by side. The bunks do go almost to the transom of the Tique but this may be because it is a #3 and not a #2. My trailer does not have a drop axle and I thought the LB's were all dropped! Looks like we need to do some research.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 7:59pm
I dont know Pete- you also have a prop guard, which I dont think #3's had either. Those are supposed to be for a 17-18' boat, so now Im confused. Your axle lines up in the same place on your Tique as a #2 would. From the pics it looks like you have a drop axle, but it could be my eyes playing tricks on me. I agree that your boat doesnt seem to sit as low as the Tique on the lowboy shown above. Strange.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 9:03pm
Tim, My Tique trailer is up north but my other trailer is here. I just went out and took at look at it. The Tique trailer is slightly smaller so I feel now it is a #2 and the one here (used for my X55) is the #3. I painted the Tique trailer and rewired it so I know for sure it isn't a drop axle but yes it does have the prop guard. The #3 does have the drop and doesn't have a prop guard. The bottom line is none of this really helps with the two different fenders!!
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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 9:07pm
Not to hurt you guys feelings, but why do you suppose CC switched to those ugly boxed fenders versus the much better looking round ones?
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Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-29-2008 at 9:45pm
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CC was not in a cash flow mood during that time, and any means to save a buck.......
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 7:35am
boat dr wrote:
COST.....................
CC was not in a cash flow mood during that time, and any means to save a buck....... |
Yes
Or making their own fiberglass vents with left over glass/resin.
Or on the cheaper models using 2 step pads instead of 4.
It all adds up!
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 9:26am
The LB trailer I used to have did have a factory prop guard...welded on instead of bolted on.
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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 10:54am
Pete, I think you're right that your Tique trailer is a #2. The #3 came with or without the drop axle. This is an assumption but I think the drop axle came with a prop guard because the boat sits so much lower to the ground.
I've seen a bunch of 18' Nautiques with the #2 trailer and although they must be capable of carrying the weight it just doesn't look right with 3' of the boat hanging off the back. That had to be a financial decision on the original buyers behalf to go with a #2 as I'm sure a #3 was standard.
The brochures don't show a prop guard as an option so maybe it was part of the "loading Package". I wouldn't own a trailer without one.
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 12:13pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
My trailer does not have a drop axle and I thought the LB's were all dropped! |
Was that a typo? Double or nothing there is a drop axle under that Tique, alteast in those pictures there is...
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 12:44pm
Hollywood wrote:
Was that a typo? Double or nothing there is a drop axle under that Tique, alteast in those pictures there is... |
Ok Kev, I'll take you up on this one! You haven't been doing to well on your bets lately! You will have to wait until I get up north and that won't be until Memorial day. You do realize that a drop axel is the forged offset from the spring seat to the centerline of the wheel.
Don't worry, I'll remember. I still owe Reid a beer when I see him at GL. I even think he said he wanted a New Glarus Spotted Cow! At least he has good taste. I was drinking the Uff-Da Bock when I was up north over New Years. Great stuff!!
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 1:03pm
Drop axle showing offset from spring seat to wheel centerline. It is not a bent center setion of the tube between the spring seats.
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Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 1:11pm
How many of you guy's out there need inside wheel well close outs? I made a couple for mine as it also came with out them. I made them out of Carbon- Fiber and used some sheet metal screws to hold them in place. Found out the hard way that they work well as I blew a tire once and the fender was sacrificed but no harm to the boat. I still have the mold and can make a few fairly cheap to those who might be interested. You can install them without removing the boat from the trailer and they are one piece so installation won't be but maybe an hour. I can try to take some pics when I get home and post them if you guy's can let me know.
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 1:38pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
Ok Kev, I'll take you up on this one! You haven't been doing to well on your bets lately! You will have to wait until I get up north and that won't be until Memorial day. You do realize that a drop axel is the forged offset from the spring seat to the centerline of the wheel. |
I'm not sure I follow. I better be clear since we are getting into double digit $$.
Not this.
This.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 1:49pm
Kev, If the center of the axle is bent down, it is to clear the keel of the boat. On a low boy with a dropped axle it lowers the complete trailer frame (usually 4") in relationship to the road. Here's the picture again so you can look at all 3 on the same page.
Don't worry if you want to change your bet. I certainly will not hold you to it.
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 2:13pm
Ok I get what you're saying now, but confused as to why you even posted that pic. I see where the spring mounts are different. On a "real life" drop axle they mount on the drop, on the one I made the springs mount on the high end, just with a dip for the keel.
I thought what everyone called a "drop" axle around here was the pic I posted, which I guess really isn't a drop axle like you have made clear. All the CC trailer pics posted all look to have the high spring mounts, irregardless if they dip/drop.
So...if standard and low-boy trailers all have the same spring mounts from the axle, they must have different upper mounts and/or different springs themselves?
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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 2:48pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
boat dr wrote:
COST.....................
CC was not in a cash flow mood during that time, and any means to save a buck....... |
Yes
Or making their own fiberglass vents with left over glass/resin.
Or on the cheaper models using 2 step pads instead of 4.
It all adds up! |
I kinda doubt it, round bolt on stamped fenders could be gotten much cheaper than what it cost CC to make these fenders and the corresponding structure that holds them up. My bet they are square and reinforced as a result of CC succumbing to the reality that trailer fenders serve as boarding steps on a regular basis, something round fenders are not well suited for...
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 3:49pm
JoeinNY wrote:
8122pbrainard wrote:
boat dr wrote:
COST.....................
CC was not in a cash flow mood during that time, and any means to save a buck....... |
Yes
Or making their own fiberglass vents with left over glass/resin.
Or on the cheaper models using 2 step pads instead of 4.
It all adds up! |
I kinda doubt it, round bolt on stamped fenders could be gotten much cheaper than what it cost CC to make these fenders and the corresponding structure that holds them up. My bet they are square and reinforced as a result of CC succumbing to the reality that trailer fenders serve as boarding steps on a regular basis, something round fenders are not well suited for... |
I agree- note how cheap you can find round fenders on ebay. These square ones take a lot more fab. Bruce, I agree that I probably wouldnt choose this style for a new boat, but any CC from the mid 70's to late 80's doesnt look quite right sitting on a trailer with any other fender.
Now that we've got the type of fender squared away (I think), does anyone else need a set? Ill confirm if they are compatible with the 2001 trailers, but I am confident that they will work on 1977-1982 #2 and #3 single axle (not Lowboy) trailers.
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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 5:14pm
Hollywood wrote:
I thought what everyone called a "drop" axle around here was the pic I posted, which I guess really isn't a drop axle like you have made clear. All the CC trailer pics posted all look to have the high spring mounts, irregardless if they dip/drop.
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I too refered to that pic as a drop axle but I understand that is not really what it is. I will have to check tonight but I believe what CC does with the low boy trailer is to mount the axle on top of the spring as opposed to the spring on top of the axle as on the standard trailers. That would drop the trailer frame down the thickness of the axle then.
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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 5:36pm
TRBenj wrote:
JoeinNY wrote:
8122pbrainard wrote:
boat dr wrote:
COST.....................
CC was not in a cash flow mood during that time, and any means to save a buck....... |
Yes
Or making their own fiberglass vents with left over glass/resin.
Or on the cheaper models using 2 step pads instead of 4.
It all adds up! |
I kinda doubt it, round bolt on stamped fenders could be gotten much cheaper than what it cost CC to make these fenders and the corresponding structure that holds them up. My bet they are square and reinforced as a result of CC succumbing to the reality that trailer fenders serve as boarding steps on a regular basis, something round fenders are not well suited for... |
I agree- note how cheap you can find round fenders on ebay. These square ones take a lot more fab. Bruce, I agree that I probably wouldnt choose this style for a new boat, but any CC from the mid 70's to late 80's doesnt look quite right sitting on a trailer with any other fender.
Now that we've got the type of fender squared away (I think), does anyone else need a set? Ill confirm if they are compatible with the 2001 trailers, but I am confident that they will work on 1977-1982 #2 and #3 single axle (not Lowboy) trailers. | Bruce, I agree that I probably wouldnt choose this style for a new boat, but any CC from the mid 70's to late 80's doesnt look quite right sitting on a trailer with any other fender.
I hear ya. I guess I've just got a thing for those '60's boats. Even the trailers get me excited. Of course, they've got to be painted white, which mine will be eventually.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 6:45pm
TRBenj wrote:
JoeinNY wrote:
8122pbrainard wrote:
boat dr wrote:
COST.....................
CC was not in a cash flow mood during that time, and any means to save a buck....... |
Yes
Or making their own fiberglass vents with left over glass/resin.
Or on the cheaper models using 2 step pads instead of 4.
It all adds up! |
I kinda doubt it, round bolt on stamped fenders could be gotten much cheaper than what it cost CC to make these fenders and the corresponding structure that holds them up. My bet they are square and reinforced as a result of CC succumbing to the reality that trailer fenders serve as boarding steps on a regular basis, something round fenders are not well suited for... |
I agree- note how cheap you can find round fenders on ebay. These square ones take a lot more fab. Bruce, I agree that I probably wouldnt choose this style for a new boat, but any CC from the mid 70's to late 80's doesnt look quite right sitting on a trailer with any other fender.
Now that we've got the type of fender squared away (I think), does anyone else need a set? Ill confirm if they are compatible with the 2001 trailers, but I am confident that they will work on 1977-1982 #2 and #3 single axle (not Lowboy) trailers. |
With the fenders and vents, you all may be missing the point that the Doc first made that started this. Cash flow! The bean counters will look at the payables and in a effort to reduce them will pull purchased items back in house. They may or may not know that manufacturing a item will cost more but it will no longer be a payable. They may have the people and during slow times can put them to work in this case making some fenders or sanding vents. No layoffs and no paying the employer share of unemployment.
Joe, If a half circle (the round fender) is firmly attached at the ends, I will say it is stronger than the square one. You do realize that the strongest structural shape is a circle.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 7:05pm
81nautique wrote:
Hollywood wrote:
I thought what everyone called a "drop" axle around here was the pic I posted, which I guess really isn't a drop axle like you have made clear. All the CC trailer pics posted all look to have the high spring mounts, irregardless if they dip/drop.
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I too refered to that pic as a drop axle but I understand that is not really what it is. I will have to check tonight but I believe what CC does with the low boy trailer is to mount the axle on top of the spring as opposed to the spring on top of the axle as on the standard trailers. That would drop the trailer frame down the thickness of the axle then.
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Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 7:09pm
This is all well and good, but I'll stick with my square fenders. There is less chance of me slipping off the square fender and spilling my beer.
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 7:39pm
81nautique wrote:
I will have to check tonight but I believe what CC does with the low boy trailer is to mount the axle on top of the spring as opposed to the spring on top of the axle as on the standard trailers. That would drop the trailer frame down the thickness of the axle then.
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Pay the man! Which is exactly why the fenders on the LB trailers need to be taller, since they are mounted to the frame.
Steve, in an emergency situation where you'd have to put your beer down, the square fender top is convenient.
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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 7:45pm
So, Tim, how many orders is that you have now?
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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 7:52pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
With the fenders and vents, you all may be missing the point that the Doc first made that started this. Cash flow! The bean counters will look at the payables and in a effort to reduce them will pull purchased items back in house. They may or may not know that manufacturing a item will cost more but it will no longer be a payable. They may have the people and during slow times can put them to work in this case making some fenders or sanding vents. No layoffs and no paying the employer share of unemployment.
Joe, If a half circle (the round fender) is firmly attached at the ends, I will say it is stronger than the square one. You do realize that the strongest structural shape is a circle. |
Believe me I understand cashflow and the structural benefits of the arc but we started off with a question about the move from the 60's round fenders to the later fugly fenders and its not even a contest on cost or strength beween the two. The round fenders were one piece bolted to the side of the trailer in two places sometimes with a support rod. The later ones are flat with six bends and bolted in four places to two welded on square stock pieces front and back each supported in most cases two welded support straps added to resist bending towards the wheel or down ward which have also have added brackets welded to them for outbound yellow lights. You couldn't buy the metal for the later setup for the cost of the fender and bolts on the earlier setup. I think they were trying to provide a safer more functional trailer in this case and spent the money to do so. If they were saving money it was in the quality of the welders they employed....
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 8:15pm
OK, OK!! We have now determined that CC made the change to the flat top fenders so you can put a beer on top!!
Sorry Tim as this is certainly not the direction you wanted this thread to go.
We need some people who need fenders so Tim can proceed!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 8:26pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
Sorry Tim as this is certainly not the direction you wanted this thread to go.
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No worries, Pete- now we have a better idea which trailers these fenders will work for! I dont *need* anyone else to order them, but I figured it would save us all a few bucks if there were others in need. These fenders arent available anywhere, and I cant be the only one with a rusty trailer! I thought the price was very reasonable for a custom fender, too.
Anyone interested can just post here or shoot me an email: TRBenj@gmail.com
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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 8:40pm
Tim,
Aren't you glad you didn't just purchase a 3LB "Custom" with the fiberglass skirt. I investigated having a plug and mold made so we could reproduce the skirt. They would't even give me a firm price until he say the actual piece because it is such an odd item but he extimated $5000 for a mold. I thought if I had a mold made I could make them up and sell a few and make my money back, gave up on that one real quick.
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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 8:43pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
81nautique wrote:
Hollywood wrote:
I thought what everyone called a "drop" axle around here was the pic I posted, which I guess really isn't a drop axle like you have made clear. All the CC trailer pics posted all look to have the high spring mounts, irregardless if they dip/drop.
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I too refered to that pic as a drop axle but I understand that is not really what it is. I will have to check tonight but I believe what CC does with the low boy trailer is to mount the axle on top of the spring as opposed to the spring on top of the axle as on the standard trailers. That would drop the trailer frame down the thickness of the axle then.
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My (what I feel is a #3LB)
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Pete, Are those springs and axle original? I've never seen a single leaf or that round axle on a CC trailer.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 10:10pm
Alan, The axle is original but I re-sprung the trailer with the mono leaf. It is the trailer I use for my X55 and with the stock 3500lb. springs it rode real hard. I seem to remember these mono leafs have a 2200 lb. rate. Helped out big time. I recommend everyone with a hard ride to take a look at the springs. The trailer manufacturers have a tendency to use the same rating for the springs as the rating of the axle. IE: 3500 for a 3500.
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Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: January-30-2008 at 10:30pm
Wow, hard to believe that a thread about a trailer fender is well on its way to becoming a CCFan classic BKH
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Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: January-31-2008 at 12:35am
All in a days posting Brian...never know which direction these things are gonna go.
One reason why I miss 79. Now he could spice up these kinda posts.
Pete: What is the funny white stuff on your trailer?
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-31-2008 at 1:10am
John thats how we store water up here so we have it when we need it.For that reason thats why Georgia dosen't have any.And don't kid yourself,you remember all too well what that is
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Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: January-31-2008 at 2:06am
Well we store it here too...all these alligators have to have some place to sleep.
You better start sharing some with our buds in the Paech state or they ain't gonna be able to boat.
And...right you are. My memory ain't that bad yet. When I see the weather up north on the tv...its always big news down here... I can't believe I worked out in it all that time. As you know..it isn't really all that bad.
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Posted By: Barracuda
Date Posted: February-08-2008 at 12:55am
Tim- Did you try Brideau sheet metal in Leominster?
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-08-2008 at 11:49am
Barracuda wrote:
Tim- Did you try Brideau sheet metal in Leominster?
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I didnt. The place I found in CT will be at least $20 cheaper per set based on what Keith paid a few years ago.
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Posted By: azeus17
Date Posted: March-28-2008 at 11:06am
Does anyone know where you can buy a new "bent center" axle, like the one HW was talking about. I have looked around the internet quite a bit and only found the regular 4" drop axles, which won't work on my trailer.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-05-2008 at 9:24pm
Update: Ive got a fender off and will be dropping it at the machine shop this week. Here are the dimensions. Can someone with a 2001 trailer measure theirs to see if it is the same?
As of right now, no one has contacted me about needing a set- so unless I hear something this week, Ill only be making a set for myself.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-05-2008 at 9:50pm
azeus17 wrote:
Does anyone know where you can buy a new "bent center" axle, like the one HW was talking about. I have looked around the internet quite a bit and only found the regular 4" drop axles, which won't work on my trailer. |
To my knowledge, it is not a standard axle. You will need to weld stub axles into the tubing you bend to the needed shape. What are you doing? Do you have a trailer without the bent center?
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Posted By: critter
Date Posted: April-06-2008 at 1:09am
TRBenj,
My trailer is a 1980 (per title) and my fenders look just like yours, so I went out and measured one.
My measurements are the same with the exception of the bolt to bolt being 31 inches instead of 31 3/8 and the total length was 33 1/2 instead of 33 3/8.
Other than those to minor differences, they appear to be the same.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-06-2008 at 11:31am
critter wrote:
TRBenj,
My trailer is a 1980 (per title) and my fenders look just like yours, so I went out and measured one.
My measurements are the same with the exception of the bolt to bolt being 31 inches instead of 31 3/8 and the total length was 33 1/2 instead of 33 3/8.
Other than those to minor differences, they appear to be the same. |
Roger, thanks for measuring. With the amount that the fenders can flex, my bet is that ours are the same. The bolt holes are actually slotted, so theres a little bit of room for adjustment.
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: April-06-2008 at 10:51pm
JoeinNY wrote:
Well I forgot to get the angle but its about 15.5 across the top, 9 for each angle and the mounting flange is about 2.75 on each side. |
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-06-2008 at 10:59pm
Hollywood wrote:
JoeinNY wrote:
Well I forgot to get the angle but its about 15.5 across the top, 9 for each angle and the mounting flange is about 2.75 on each side. |
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Thanks for reminding me- with all the OT discussion, I missed that!
I actually lined up my fender with Brad's '86 today and theyre similar, but definitely not the same. His were 1" wider and ~2.5" longer- but the angles and everything else matched up. Nonetheless, it is safe to say that the fenders I'll be having fabbed will fit the pre-82 trailers, but NOT the 83+ 2001 trailers. The '82 is still a question mark.
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: April-07-2008 at 2:35am
TRBenj wrote:
I actually lined up with Brad today and theyre similar, but definitely not the same. His 1" wider and ~2.5" longer- but everything else matched up. Nonetheless, it is safe to say that I'll fit. |
Finally gonna fill that hole with something, that's nice.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-14-2008 at 3:27pm
I dropped off the fenders at the machine shop on Sat. If anyone needs a square set of fenders for a pre-2001 Correct Craft trailer, let me know ASAP!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-30-2008 at 2:08pm
Fenders are back and they look great. The guy didnt keep the pattern, but I can get my old fender back to him if anyone needs a set.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-01-2008 at 9:01am
Looking great Tim! I love it - they are original!!!!
Edit: Wait a minute! Do I see 3 slash marks on the tops of those hex heads? Did they use grade 5 bolts to hold those fenders on?
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: May-01-2008 at 9:48am
That's good looking work Tim!
Now all they need is a Donna the Buffalo sticker?!!?
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-01-2008 at 10:49am
8122pbrainard wrote:
Looking great Tim! I love it - they are original!!!!
Edit: Wait a minute! Do I see 3 slash marks on the tops of those hex heads? Did they use grade 5 bolts to hold those fenders on? |
Thanks Pete and Greg. Original- thats the idea!
No idea on the bolts- I grabbed the new ones from Home Depot. The originals were a *tad* rusty.
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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: May-01-2008 at 10:53am
Are they done in stainless?
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-01-2008 at 11:22am
The bolts are fine!! I was just trying to through in one of my "keep it original" comments in jest! I'm sure they would have used any bolt they could get the cheapest.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-01-2008 at 11:58am
Pete, dont worry- I grabbed the cheapest bolts I could find too!
Bruce, the fenders are regular steel.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-18-2013 at 1:32pm
Bumping an old thread... I am heading to my machine shop in the coming weeks and can drop off an old fender for a pattern if there is any interest in making more. These should fit all #2 (Ski Tique) and #3 (Ski Nautique, Mustang 17, etc) trailers from 1977-1981. My guess is that it will also fit the "old style" trailers that came under the Ski Tiques and Mustangs '82-84. They will NOT fit the Lowboys of any flavor, nor the 2001 style trailers.
I would expect pricing to be close to what I paid last time... $200 give or take, plus shipping. They are made from regular steel.
Any interest, email me: TRBenj@gmail.com
Original fender from my '78 #2:
Dimensions:
Reproduced fender (raw):
As installed on the trailer:
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Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: January-30-2013 at 4:50pm
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-30-2013 at 4:52pm
Need any Mike?
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Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: January-30-2013 at 5:10pm
Tim, do not need at the moment but they look great ? If I do I am calling you for sure !!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-30-2013 at 5:13pm
Ha, no problem. Ive received no interest at this point so Im not going to have any more made... probably wont bother dropping the template off with my machine shop guy either- no sense in risking him losing it!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-19-2015 at 7:32pm
Bump... I need a set of fenders for our 87 #4, so I'll be running to my machine shop this winter. Any interest in either style? I still have the original from the Tique that I could use as a pattern.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-19-2015 at 7:45pm
Tim, Just a though but when you have them fab'd, ask them if they have any "paint lock" to make them out of. It's a electro galvanizing with a phosphate coating that provides corrosion resistance and paint bonding. It will burn off slightly at the welds so that area will need some extra prep.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-19-2015 at 7:50pm
Pete, is the paint lock a type of steel? Or is it a coating applied prior to welding? My guy does good work but he's a part time shop running out of his garage... Not exactly cutting edge technology! Ha.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-19-2015 at 7:53pm
TRBenj wrote:
Pete, is the paint lock a type of steel? Or is it a coating applied prior to welding? My guy does good work but he's a part time shop running out of his garage... Not exactly cutting edge technology! Ha. | Paint lock is a coating on steel. You buy it that way just like you would buy galvanized sheet steel. If he does a fair amount of sheet fab, he may have some in stock.
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