old photo’s
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Printed Date: December-26-2024 at 7:48am
Topic: old photo’s
Posted By: eric lavine
Subject: old photo’s
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 10:18am
TR, i went thru 12 photo albums to look for that picture and couldnt find one, I know it was a 1996....it may have said ski nautique 176, i remember Ron at Ron's marine told me that there wern't to many of the sport 176's made. its bugging me. Anyways i found this picture to show the drives and the air vent tubes and you can get a good feeling about the size of the boat ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 10:24am
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keep in mind because of the mass we had a top speed of 98mph on salt water ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 12:12pm
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Arneson Drives??? BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 12:16pm
Youre backpeddling Eric, now youve got me wondering if you owned the boat at all! 
That rig above is a pretty serious set up. ------------- |
eric lavine wrote:Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 12:52pm
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TR, you gotta be sh*tting me, now i gotta get ahold of Chris at tri-lakes, and yes they did make 1996's
BKH, yes arnesons, with Rolla surface piercing props, the props are machined out of a solid chunk instead of casting them ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 1:03pm
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I've met Howard Arneson a few times. He brings a boat out to our on-the-water fireworks show each 4th of July.
One of the neighbors put Arnesons on his twin screw 38 Formula. Not for speed as much as for reliability. Pretty neat system. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 1:04pm
 ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 1:38pm
Dont worry Eric, Ill give you the benefit of the doubt- there are a few '96 176's in the diaries, so they probably just didnt make the brochure until '97. Keep looking for the pics! ------------- |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 1:48pm
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Howard has to be up in the 80's by now, we tested them on different boats, they are pretty much bullet proof until you hit something...he tests in the bay alot, i believe ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Hansel
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 1:49pm
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Tim,
I thought you mentioned one time that you used to read the Donzi Forum. Do you remember that X-18 with the Arneson surface drives that did ~115mph (IIRC)? ------------- "The only prudence in fishermen is that designed to set the stage for taking yet another, and perhaps a longer, chance." -Aldo Leopold |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 1:52pm
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Hansel, are you talking to me? I do poke my head into the Donzi forum on occasion- mostly just checking for older Ford (especially H-M) engine parts. I dont generally read much beyond that. ------------- |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 1:52pm
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Tr, they seemed to have dis-appeared because all the pictures had the ex girlfriend on the boat, im waiting on a call from the guy who sold it to me, i dont know why sport sticks in my head.
75 along with tr and pete, your getting pretty crafty too.... Im on a mission now ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 1:55pm
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the donzi's came with Twin Disc 502 transmissions and Kamma surface drives, they may have also came with the arnesons, they are very pricey so you see more conventional drives on boats...the props for the above boat were 8k apiece x3 ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Hansel
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 4:26pm
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Yeah, TR, I was talking to you. I just remember you saying something like that. Makes sense for the Ford thing, a lot of old Donzis with H-M gear in them.
That boat was just crazy, but I am pretty sure the owner who made the mods sold it, and now is seems to have disappeared in the ether or the internet. Eric, what kind of boat is that in the top photo? ------------- "The only prudence in fishermen is that designed to set the stage for taking yet another, and perhaps a longer, chance." -Aldo Leopold |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 4:50pm
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it is a cougar hull, and was powered with 3196 cat diesels
TR, he called and it was a ski nautique 176.... i was wro-- well you know. it was a 1996 though ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 5:19pm
I don't know how old, but he's certainly no spring chicken. Still seems to have an eye for the young ladies . . . BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 5:25pm
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god bless em, he may need the little blue pill though ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 1969cc
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 7:58pm
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This one uses Arnesan drives and is the 2007 European P1 series Evolution Class World Champion.
The King of Shaves features Arneson surface drives and Ilmore 625 horsepower V-10 Viper engines.  ------------- If you see light at the end of the tunnel you might be looking the wrong way http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3674 - 69 Mustang |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-12-2008 at 10:34pm
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simple yet effective... ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-13-2008 at 12:29pm
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we had a guy in england somewhere that was promising if we sent the boat over to him he guareenteed 5 miles an hour by applying a golf ball texture product. it was going to cut down the wetted surfaces but it was pricey. we also pumped another 1000 hp to it and it still did the same speed, it was at its limits and gives a good example of a boat can only go so fast.....it was the happiest day in my life when they sold it...i waxed that thing more than i waxed myself ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 1969cc
Date Posted: February-13-2008 at 2:03pm
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Eric
That makes a lot of sense that you need more than horsepower. It seems like it all comes down to hull design. Modern racing boat manufacturers like Fountain continue changing hull design to increase speed. ------------- If you see light at the end of the tunnel you might be looking the wrong way http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3674 - 69 Mustang |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-13-2008 at 2:33pm
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exactly, you can see the huge steps in that hull unlike 10 or so years ago you didnt see that aggressive of steps on a hull, typically the catermaran hulls are very fast because between the 2 hulls in the pocket it tapers smaller, so when the air enters it compresses and causes lift but then they become very unstable
69, what was the speeds on the above fountain? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-13-2008 at 2:41pm
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when i looked at the Mastercrappers at the dealership, they are getting into stepped hulls, i dont know if the new CC's are doing this.
we also were using step up boxes which meant instead of reduction we were using "overdrive" we spun the engines at 3450 rpms...no higher and the prop speed was right around 4000 rpms...we initially had mercury build a set of props but blew the blades right off basiclly they were junk and thats when we had Rolla build a set, they were not casted as all props are, they start out with a solid block and machine the props. we carried 900 gallons of fuel to also give an idea of the weight of the boat. 900 gallons is roughly 2700lb.s just anout the weight of a typical ski boat. I have a pic that i'll find and post of this boat, we calculated from transom to water we were 27 feet out of the water ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-13-2008 at 2:54pm
Reid, What ever happened to your idea? You were going to get the Sawsall out and cut steps in one of your hulls!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 1969cc
Date Posted: February-13-2008 at 4:54pm
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Eric
I think speed averages in the 90 mph range on a race course. It all depends on water conditions, weather, etc. Straight away speeds I think are in the 140 mph range. Fountain holds the Super Vee record of 171 mph that requires 2 runs. On one run the boat speed recorded was 177 mph. ------------- If you see light at the end of the tunnel you might be looking the wrong way http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3674 - 69 Mustang |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: February-14-2008 at 1:56am
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Eric was that gas or diesel, as I believe gasoline weighs 8.8 lbs per gallon roughly, which would mean 900 gallons would be 8100. ------------- |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: February-14-2008 at 2:14am
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Im not sure , but I think water ways 8lbs per gallon . Gas might be more like 7.8 lbs . ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: Hansel
Date Posted: February-14-2008 at 4:13am
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Apparently, gasoline weighs about 6.2lbs per gallon. ------------- "The only prudence in fishermen is that designed to set the stage for taking yet another, and perhaps a longer, chance." -Aldo Leopold |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-14-2008 at 10:16am
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sorry, there was 3- 300 gallon tanks at 2700 each...it was diesel, i calculated at 7lbs per gallon. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-14-2008 at 10:28am
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i have to pull out some old notes to get the total boat weight, i forgot more than i know about that boat, its been 10 years and my brain is spongey
you can see the extra tubes in the drive area, those would allow air to the top of the props to airiate them so they would break free and allow the turbos to spool up. we had straight 6" exhaust with 6 turbos, when this thing fired it was like a cannon, it threw a 250' rooster tail as if you were stuck in the mud. the boat skipped across 6' footers as if they were'nt there ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: February-14-2008 at 3:45pm
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Eric,
How was the slalom wake on that thing? Perhaps a better wakeboat with all that fuel ballast? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-14-2008 at 4:16pm
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the rooster tail was a killer so we used a 400' line, by then the wake really died down
eric ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |