Aluminum Stringers
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Topic: Aluminum Stringers
Posted By: Bhedbloom
Subject: Aluminum Stringers
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 3:06pm
I have done a lot of research on this site regarding stringer replacement and what I have decerned is that you can cut out the old ones and glass in new wood, or cut out the center of the stringers and pour in new ones.
I have a thought on aluminum stringers and wanted some of your opinions on the subject before I go for it.
Why couldn't I take aluminum channel stock, slide it over the old stringer, through bolt it in, and glass over this assembly? Wouldn't that give a stringer system that would last forever and be stronger than stock? Thanks for any and all thoughts on this subject!
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Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 3:28pm
Barry, here is my take on that suggestion..
It would not be FAST
It would not be SLOW
THAT MEANS IT WOULD BE HALFAST
To do it on a MasterCraft maybe
To do this to a Correct Craft.....NOT
Do it right or not at all......
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 3:41pm
Doc, youre presuming that he would be adding aluminum channel to avoid replacing rotten stringers. If thats the case, then I agree that its not an ideal solution.
Barry, using aluminum over the stringers isnt a bad idea- Correct Craft started installing aluminum engine cradles in '89 or '90, and they work great. I believe its a better/stronger design than bolting the motormounts down from the top of the stringers.
That being said, strength isnt necessarily the problem when it comes to stringer replacement. Adding the aluminum over wood wouldnt help solve the problem of the rotting structure underneath. Im not sure how well epoxy would stick to aluminum, which might be a consideration as well.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 4:03pm
Barry, The boat Doc hit it right on the head! "Halfast" was exactly my first impression! You would end up creating more problems than you already may have. The moisture is already in the wood and by simply encasing it you would be promoting the perfect environment for the rot fungus to take over. The aluminum even if anodized will corrode. The cross drilled holes even sealed with 5200 is a spot where more moisture will enter. You will also find it hard to find a channel that is nominally 2"x6". With new wood, a moisture content less than about 6% (or a composite) and then every attempt to seal it in epoxy is the way to go in my opinion.
I notice you have a collection of CC's. Glad to see it! Is there one of your boats that has stringer problems?
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Posted By: anthonylizardi
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 4:34pm
I bet is his 68 San Juan.
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Posted By: Bhedbloom
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 4:45pm
8122pbrainard wrote-
Is there one of your boats that has stringer problems?
The last owner of my 1968 San Juan let it sit outside in the rain with no cover. The floor was wet and the eight stringers are very lightly damp in sections but still solid. I have removed all the foam and am drying everthing. I want to strengthen them before installing the new floor. Thanks for your comments and opinion.
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 4:52pm
boat dr wrote:
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Let's hear it doc...what's the right way?
Tim, my '88 has the aliminum cradle.
Pete, I just talked to another guy who said to go back with fir; he gave me a number of the reasons you have and he does it for a living!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 5:19pm
BuffaloBFN wrote:
Tim, my '88 has the aliminum cradle. |
My bad. A little research revealed that CC started putting the aluminum cradle in the Ski Nautique in 1980.
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Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 5:33pm
Start from scratch,remove and replace one stringer at a time. Somewhere else on here the owner removed all and did not support the hull, MAJOR PROBLEMO.
Hull removed from trailer,and properly supported the full length of stringers.Old material removed to hull and sanded to clean glass.
New stringers cut and formed, sounds easy,but is very time consuming the fit is to be correct and the integrity is "lost"
West System is my tool of choice, but any good epoxy will suffice.Type of wood is also up for debate, fir, pine or red oak all have their place.My choice if done again will be a plywood composite mix,carbon fibre or kevlar intermixed with plys of Okeum...All sealed with generous amonts added to seal before the encapsulation with matt and rove.
Added to the perimeter is an all aluminum engine mount girdle.But this cannot be an after thought,stringer height will have to be reduced for engine to be at original elevation.
Ask how I know about this last step and what plans are needed before the girdle is fabricated?????
The next stringer job will go a little faster, the more you do the less mistakes you make.
This is not to say MY WAY is correct , just this is how I would do it again.....................Boat dr
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 6:00pm
Thanks doc, in the end and with expenses factored in, I'm just about sure that's the way to go. I do appreciate your input!
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 7:08pm
If you are going to use the Doc's build up method, I would like to recommend against the Okume. Meranti would be my choice. Even though it would be epoxied together, the Okume is the least rot resistant of the "mahogany family". If you can't find anything besides the Okume, then use a max thickness of 1/8" and plenty of epoxy.
Of coarse knowing Greg, he'll use something like tulip wood!!!!
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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 7:31pm
Present company excluded I wouldnt necessarily take the word of someone who does it for a living as gospel, way to many fiberglass fumes over the years...
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 7:51pm
tulip wood? or is that tulips on some wood?
Pete you have to start thinking like a deviate like myself and a few others on the site, i am a result of to many fiberglass fumes, so i have an excuse
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 8:06pm
eric lavine wrote:
tulip wood? or is that tulips on some wood?
Pete you have to start thinking like a deviate like myself and a few others on the site, i am a result of to many fiberglass fumes, so i have an excuse |
There is such a thing as tulipwood...have some in my shop, but contrary to the 'lite' name, it's quite heavy!
LMAO
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 8:30pm
JoeinNY wrote:
Present company excluded I wouldnt necessarily take the word of someone who does it for a living as gospel, way to many fiberglass fumes over the years... |
Joe, I'm not taking anyone's word so-to-speak. I'm asking questions and comparing answers. On 1 hand, wood may rot someday, but the wood in my boat could've been sealed better. On the other hand, a composite won't ever rot, but I'm not so familiar with that material.
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 8:33pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
Of coarse knowing Greg, he'll use something like tulip wood!!!! |
Now Pete, Tulipwood belongs where it can be seen! LOL Here's a sample for Eric...the cowcatcher is tulipwood.
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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 10:08pm
BuffaloBFN wrote:
8122pbrainard wrote:
Of coarse knowing Greg, he'll use something like tulip wood!!!! |
Now Pete, Tulipwood belongs where it can be seen! LOL Here's a sample for Eric...the cowcatcher is tulipwood.
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And the boiler is Purpleheart, The sides thingys are Padauk(sp), the chassis is oak, the stripe in the body is cherry, the wheels maybe walnut? How'd I do?
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 10:37pm
81nautique wrote:
How'd I do? |
Spot on as always Alan! There's a few other scraps there as well. I was just trying to send a little culture Eric's way?!!?
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-26-2008 at 11:30pm
Greg, one of my friends bought us a teak carved eagle as a gift from Bali which is in my office, he paid 75 bucks for it, it stands about 3 feet tall, if i saw it here somewhere for sale i would think you could get at least 2K for it, it is beautiful, he had 2 containers shipped back here full of teak carvings, furniture and so on,
things must be real cheap over there
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Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: February-27-2008 at 12:10am
Barry: Sweet collection! Personal favorite-the beautiful '72 Southwind. Love the look of that front deck.
Buffalo: Nice job on the woodwork. I gotta say you must be a man of many talents.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-27-2008 at 7:39am
81nautique wrote:
And the boiler is Purpleheart, The sides thingys are Padauk(sp), the chassis is oak, the stripe in the body is cherry, the wheels maybe walnut? How'd I do?
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Alan, You are getting closer to that wood boat every day! Very good!!
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-27-2008 at 8:49am
eric lavine wrote:
Greg, one of my friends bought us a teak carved eagle as a gift from Bali which is in my office, he paid 75 bucks for it, it stands about 3 feet tall, if i saw it here somewhere for sale i would think you could get at least 2K for it, it is beautiful, he had 2 containers shipped back here full of teak carvings, furniture and so on,
things must be real cheap over there |
I'd like to see it. We gotta get you picture savvy! It's also comforting to know you're being looked after...do you talk to him?!!? Does he tell you which customers to run from? LOL
Barry, nice boats and sorry for the thread jack.
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-27-2008 at 10:27am
i am picture savy, i think you mean picture lazy, i"ll snap a shot, the store he had we went out of business and he sold everything for .10 on the dollar, my brother ended up with garden benches, book cases and a ton of other stuff, i was on vacation during the auction so i didnt get a chance to buy any of it. 2 weeks before the auction hios wife was trying to sell him a couch set for 2500.00 and he ended up getting it at the auction for 160.00 (it was all high end stuff)
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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: February-27-2008 at 1:58pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
If you are going to use the Doc's build up method, I would like to recommend against the Okume. Meranti would be my choice. Even though it would be epoxied together, the Okume is the least rot resistant of the "mahogany family". If you can't find anything besides the Okume, then use a max thickness of 1/8" and plenty of epoxy.
Of coarse knowing Greg, he'll use something like tulip wood!!!! |
Has anyone here used a built up stringer as opposed to 2x lumber? Certainly sounds stronger and beats trying to find that perfect piece of straight grain fir if there is any of that left, any delam issues. How about bolting down into it on a boat without a cradle, any splitting? I've got atleast one maybe 2 stringer projects looming in the near future.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-27-2008 at 2:18pm
81nautique wrote:
Has anyone here used a built up stringer as opposed to 2x lumber? Certainly sounds stronger and beats trying to find that perfect piece of straight grain fir if there is any of that left, any delam issues. How about bolting down into it on a boat without a cradle, any splitting? I've got atleast one maybe 2 stringer projects looming in the near future. |
Alan, I have not for stringers because I to this day have always been lucky with finding nice fir. I have on other projects and it is a very strong method. I was just at a Blackhawk chapter tech seminar and the host had just finished a sailbot mast. 3 Layers of Siberian Larch and 2 carbon fiber. No splitting and will lag bolt very nice with proper size pilot holes (due to the epoxy, the laminated is harder in spots so the pilots are a little larger - shank clearance too) Great method but it's less work if you can find the nice fir. I'm sure you know to go to the local lumber yard for the fir rather than one of the "Home Depots"!!!!
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Posted By: SkiBum
Date Posted: February-27-2008 at 3:00pm
Just get the lightest fir 2" wide that you can. Lay it up properly. Don't store the boat outside anymore. It will last another 20 years.
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Posted By: Bhedbloom
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 3:04pm
Thanks for all of the input. I am going to try and load an image to give yall a detailed look at the stringer system of the San Juan.
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Posted By: Bhedbloom
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 7:37pm
Is anyone here running a boat with poured stringers (like SeaCast)? I know there were a couple of you considering it a year or so ago.
If so what are your thoughts on the performace of the stuff? There has to be a better product for stringers than wood!
I know for a fact that if I take wood stringers out of my boat, wood will not find itself back in there. When my boats get passed to the next generation of ski and watercraft fans, they won't be left with a mess to deal with. Plus I plan on boating for another 40-50yrs.
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 7:54pm
Noah used wood, he just kept it dry, the key word here is aftercare, the way its going with the gas prices 40 or 50 years???
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 8:50pm
Barry, You sure have this thing against wood!! As a wood boat owner, I need to remind you that if God intended boats to be made of fiberglass, he would have created fiberglass trees. Are your carpentry skills weak? We can all guide you through the process.
I do not know anyone who has used the SeaCast. I do know it is heavy and expensive.
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 9:39pm
Pete, I feel just as he does, but I've yet to find the answer. I'm happy to use fir as I know how to make it fit...but will I be wondering 5 years down the road?!!?
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 10:04pm
Greg, I completely understand everyones concern with the wood. It is one of mine as well but besides building up a composite, I feel it is the easiest and most economical solution. Keep in mind that the factory made no attempts to keep water out of the wood stringers and they used polyester resin (hygroscopic) and not epoxy. If the factory job lasted say 15 to 20 years, then I would say then proper stringer job will last at least twice as long. 30 to 40 years from now we all will probably be in wheel chairs at the home and really won't need to worry about it!!
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Posted By: Bhedbloom
Date Posted: March-01-2008 at 12:53am
As a residential home builder and remodeling contractor as well as a furniture builder I am all too aware of wood and it's limitations which is why the synthetic building materials industry that produce products that DO NOT ROT has sky rocketed in the last decade!
I'm trying to think outside the box to see if there might be some better solutions for our great classic crafts. "If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you've always gotten! Rotten!
On many larger vessels that have planning or semi-planing hulls I have read that high density foam is used and covered with a 1/4" layer of glass unlike my stringers that have only a thin layer of glass. At that point the glass build-up becomes the structural part of the stringer and the foam just stays in there as a support. Anybody tried this method?
After a little more research I'll try something non-wood and let ya'll know how the boat performs. Thanks to everyone for all the continued input, and Happy Boating!
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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: March-01-2008 at 5:53am
move down and read the thread titled weeding the pumpkin patch this discussion has occurred there...
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: March-01-2008 at 7:04am
8122pbrainard wrote:
Keep in mind that the factory made no attempts to keep water out of the wood stringers and they used polyester resin (hygroscopic) and not epoxy. |
Very true, I will have opportunities to seal the wood in better than it was. I also won't be leaving any raw plywood edges exposed.
Have you drawn up plans for a V-8 wheelchair yet? Somehow, I think aging will be a little different for many on this site! LOL
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-01-2008 at 11:15am
of the 2 or 3 rotted boats out there of this era there are probably 10 fold that are not rotted, these are the ones the were properly taken care of and sure the factory does do sloppy work and does not treat every piece of wood.
when you do this extensive work on a boat you are going to take care of it better than anything else in your life, when you invest this much time and energy into a boat and rotted stringers you will take the extra measures to dry the boat after use, alot of these boats sit for weeks with a foot of water in the bildge and these are the ones that rot and these are the ones that were not taken care of and thats when you come along and get a great deal on it.
as in Gregs case when he is done with his boat there is no reason that he shouldnt get 40 or 50 years easily out of the boat. these boats simply do not just rot, it is the careless owners before you that make them rot. using wood is the only choice on these IMO pre 1993
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Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: March-01-2008 at 11:34am
Hi
Have a look on web for this Roechling Glastic which is made in the US May be spelt Rochling in the US,you have more choice of grades,than I have in the UK, If you look under Gold Member they say it can be used for boat building/repairing,could be of some help.
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Posted By: Bhedbloom
Date Posted: March-01-2008 at 12:24pm
Thanks for the additional threads. That "Pumpkin Patch" thread was a good read. A lot of good info. to noodle on. Well, I guess its time to mount the flapper disc into the grinder and get to work! I'm sure by lunch I will start reaching for the beer instead of the coffee. Y'all have a good weekend!
BuffaloBFN:
That V8 wheelchair sounds like a cool idea, but only with headers, side pipes and maybe some racing slicks or monster mudd tires!
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: March-01-2008 at 12:30pm
Bhedbloom wrote:
BuffaloBFN:
That V8 wheelchair sounds like a cool idea, but only with headers, side pipes and maybe some racing slicks or monster mudd tires!
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: March-01-2008 at 12:39pm
Eric, you make a solid point...and one that I like! I will be among those who take care of their boat. My grandfather drilled that into me years ago.
I have a pros and cons list that is much longer on the pro side of using fir. It's decided then for me.
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Posted By: SkiBum
Date Posted: March-05-2008 at 2:48pm
Out of all the times this issue has been discussed, I think this is the first time somebody pointed out the importance of the care of the boat, post installation of the stringers. I understand that it is a boat, but the water is supposed to stay on the outside.
In my neighborhood there are two boats that have sat outside, uncovered, for two years. I see plenty of boats sitting in slips, uncovered with strange growth on their hull. I have seen plenty of people being very careless about getting water inside their boats while at the lake.
But there is a population of responsible boat owners who are very careful while on the water; they wipe their boats dry when they pull them out of the water; and they store them inside some structure. I like to consider myself part of that group.
Having said all of that, I too, thought of several options, other than fir, to replace the stringers in the '87. In the end I chose fir. Somebody else owns the boat now, but if they care for it properly, their grandchildren will be able to ski behind it 40 years from now.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-05-2008 at 3:12pm
SkiBum wrote:
Somebody else owns the boat now, but if they care for it properly, their grandchildren will be able to ski behind it 40 years from now. |
Bill, You forgot to add the excellent job you did on the stringers and sealing them. Something that the factory didn't do.
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: March-05-2008 at 3:17pm
Bill, well said! Your point holds true with most things. Know that your comments are welcome over in the pumpkin patch!
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-05-2008 at 4:09pm
Greg, I thought of you last evening. I was watching "Modern Marvels" on the History channel and they aired the segment on engines. In that segment they report on Waukeshaw (the same that at one time made marine engines) and the large engines they put on their gensets. Because of the noise and the orange color, they call them "thunder pumpkins"!!
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: March-05-2008 at 5:10pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
Greg, I thought of you last evening. I was watching "Modern Marvels" on the History channel and they aired the segment on engines. In that segment they report on Waukeshaw (the same that at one time made marine engines) and the large engines they put on their gensets. Because of the noise and the orange color, they call them "thunder pumpkins"!! |
LOLOL!!! I just about fell outa my chair?!!? We were watching the very same show and we laughed so hard...I remember thinking "I wonder if any of the guys saw that?". Amy likes the nickname, but I think it needs mods... And this is your fault Eric L...but we like it. All of my friends and neighbors ask about it now.
Was that 47lb pistons?!!? WOW I think I counted a V-16!!! Now that's a lot of metal in motion...I think it was constant(and low) rpms though.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-05-2008 at 7:19pm
Greg, Start knocking some of the baffles out of the mufflers!!
Reid is trying to figure out how to get the V16 in one of his Mustangs!! Ether that or one of those gas turbines!
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: March-05-2008 at 7:29pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
Greg, Start knocking some of the baffles out of the mufflers!!
Reid is trying to figure out how to get the V16 in one of his Mustangs!! Ether that or one of those gas turbines! |
On a serious note, there's only one small baffle...kinda tongue shaped for lack of a better term.
...if he tried to put a V-16 in a mustang, he'd need to re-roam!
------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold
"It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO
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Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: March-06-2008 at 1:17am
Bill: Are you still stateside doing the training thing?
If not; stay safe.
Still cannot believe you sold that beautiful work of art after all that effort.
john
------------- "Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"...
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Posted By: SkiBum
Date Posted: March-14-2008 at 3:32pm
I volunteered for another mission in Afghanistan that departed in March. But I got passed over on that one. Now I train soldiers on the Stryker RV. Unless I can catch another mission I'll be stateside at least a year before I head back to a fighting unit.
Thanks for looking out.
------------- Bill
http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks - http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks
www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks 1987 SN Rebuild Project
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Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: March-14-2008 at 11:28pm
Thanks for looking out for us.
I am kinda glad you are still here..safe. And the training you are doing is surely needed.
Miss the boat? Plans for another one?
john
------------- "Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"...
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