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eric lavine
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Posted: November-14-2006 at 9:52am |
just thought I would liven the forum up since the boating season is almost over. went on a warranty call a few years ago, the complaint was the engine was locked up, questioned them thru and thru and here is what they said: you sold us these transmissions which were Twin Disc Mg-540's 5500lbs. each about $85000.00 each. we installed them welded all the brackets and all of the bed rails in place and aligned. on start up the starter just clicked and clicked, changed starters and problem was still there. the engine would not turn... what was the problem
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quinner
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The problem was It wasn't a Nautique!
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DrCC
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Solenoid
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TRBenj
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Battery
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eric lavine
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another hint: it had something to do with electricity. not a battery or a solenoid either. and the problem was not engine related
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TRBenj
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Id say neutral switch, but I dont think the starter would click.
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M3Fan
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I'm a$$uming this is some sort of yacht- perhaps someone was cooking a turkey in the electric oven (visions of that Simpson's episode with Flander's RV come to mind).
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eric lavine
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tugboat, also it was something the customer did
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Waterdog
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Painted before attaching the ground.
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emccallum
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They welded the drive shaft to something?
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PLBC
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bad ground?
fried computer while welding? |
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Nautique2001
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Califratic Responder?
Furmus Gapper? |
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MaddMarxx
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The shore power was still pluged in
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The Dude
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I'm going with MM...shore power.
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Mullet Free since 93
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boat dr
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Eric, the KEY WORD, i think is ,welded all the brackets and the bed rails in place.If the ground is installed (welding lead) in the wrong place,engine, tranny or anything with a rubber mount,the welding machine will find a path to ground.engine bearing,roller bearings do not like this........
the other senario, weld everything ; i repeat weld it good,dont spare the rods, weld it good ...... boat dr |
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M3Fan
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Don't forget, eric specifically mentions that it was something the customer did.
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eric lavine
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f-in ay boat doc you got it, they welded with the ground clear on the other side of the rails and it jumped the bearings and slightly welded them, you guys figured it quicker than i did,
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boat dr
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Eric;pa$$ing info on this site is a great way to pa$$ time,but how many of us can relate to ;BEEN THERE DONE THAT,WHERE'S MY TEE SHIRT..........
having been in the boating biz for 25 years,i have found out i dont know beans about boats,and as soon as i think i do ,here comes a new twist on an old problem. youth is wasted on the young knowledge on the old...........boat dr |
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Munday
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Years ago at my uncle's boat shop,They were working on early chris or century had a loose lag on motor mount.Guy flat rates it puts in longer lag.Customer brings it back says he can't get it off trailor,guess were the longer lag came out?Both sides were about 3/4 inch into the bunks....
I saw the welding ground deal on a trailer axle once really hard on wheel bearings. Nice story Eric Munday |
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eric lavine
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I like the lag bolt story better, reminds me of that story where the wife unhooked the trailer from the truck and it was still attached to the boat and she could'nt get the boat to go over 5 miles an hour
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boat dr
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VIP open bow 21 feet,5.7 TBI W/IO .....This is a new boat
motor idles a little funny, not the silkey smooth that they have with 2 hrs. perform PDI,match #'s drive to engine install correct 21 pitch s/s prop fill gear lube tank check engine oil fill with regular fuel 10 gals. check link and sync. of control cables Go to lake for test run and escape for 1 hr. motor will only turn 3500 rpm's this is my third boat boat today,all with the same motor,outdrive,prop,one is blue one is red and this one is green. timing,advance and valve train all working to specs. What did GM do wrong??????????????boat dr eric i solved yours now try mine..... |
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eric lavine
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Im not up on this stuff and i dont know if they use rev limiters but that would be my guess or you didnt catch that it was a ford motor lol I'll think on the way to work I know the big blocks have rev limiters,
electrical fuel or mechanical? |
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boat dr
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to narrow the search,it is not related to spark or exhaust,
funny idle,it dont sound right |
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eric lavine
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why you messin with me this early?
is is that water cooled fuel pump? ask me a tranny question |
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boat dr
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Eric;
this was a real simple one..... it ain't fuel,electrical,camshaft and related parts working properly. Idles funny,at top end no power,almost feels like its MISSING,hint hint |
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Munday
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Red rag in intake under carb in intake
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eric lavine
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Im terrible at jeopardy
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TRBenj
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You said electrical and spark are working fine, but were the plug wires on the correct firing order? Right spark plugs?
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boat dr
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All m/cruiser engines are test run at Stillwater Ok. prior to ship.No red rags,correct plugs,plug wires in order,
this was a real simple one..... it ain't fuel,electrical,camshaft and related parts working properly. Idles funny,at top end no power,almost feels like its MISSING,hint hint missing,Erics KEY word was WELDED,the KEY word is MISSING |
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boat dr
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Warning;
this is some of those little head aches that boat shops encounter everyday.We dont have a pay check like the rest of you,40 hrs.of labor does not always = a pay check. Sometimes it = A HARD EARNED LESSON,and that will not buy you a loaf of bread,or pay the light bill........... Ilove to see a boat come down the drive..... I get paid when they are repaired,properly.. Eric can you relate to this??????????? boat dr...i spent several hours on this one,M/cruiser flat rated a motor exchange. |
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