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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by Keeganino Keeganino wrote:

I don't see how I could just make the plywood a rectangle because to get down around the exhaust I have to put that L in it. Or maybe I am misunderstanding your concept...

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So put that in in before the floor and then glass the floor to that
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Originally posted by Keeganino Keeganino wrote:

So put that in in before the floor and then glass the floor to that

Well, yes- thats an option. I would put the wood in the transom first and glass the secondary to it. Id actually leave the floor a bit short of the transom though. That will give you access to the back side of the platform brackets bolts- so you can through bolt them top and bottom instead of lagging them.
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   Id actually leave the floor a bit short of the transom though. That will give you access to the back side of the platform brackets bolts- so you can through bolt them top and bottom instead of lagging them.



Most definitely. I would leave as much open as you can behind the transom deck line.
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Got my feet wet today boys. 4.5 inch grinder with a diamond wheel.
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I used the guard as a guide to give me a lip around the edge for reference later.
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I dont plan to leave any original wood in the boat. The rudder port was solid, but had a large water stain. All the more reason to take these guys advice.
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The PO bragged about how solid that floor was. I stepped there after the glass was up and almost broke my foot when I fell through!
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Did not cut out the air box yet. Not looking forward to that at all.
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I got my first taste of digging foam just as the sun was going down. Had to pack it in for the day. That first part came out pretty easy with the saw, and a pry bar. Should be getting the engine pulled this week. The sooner the better!
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This is me last year behind this boat, and that is why I am doing this. There is absolutely no way I could have ever dreamed of taking this project on without the help of You guys. Thanks a million!
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Keegan, keep chipping away

Looks like you made some good progress. I'd guess once you get the motor pulled it will make life easier when tearing things out. Keep up the good work and keep the pics comming!
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Thanks I am motivated to get her finished as fast as I can. Being one of the smaller boats, it will be a lot easier to get around in there with the motor out for sure. I will keep "Chipping away"! I have a little over four months before the kids get out of school and they are expecting to spend long days on the lake and my wife expects to have the tan of tans by July.

130 days left till school gets out
Immediate goals
Foam removal- 3 days tops
Measure everything!- not going to get many, if any whole stringers out for templates. Luckily Jdiggs has some great blueprints.
Engine removal
Build jig to span beam for reference measurements.
Take photos
reread everything I have already read. Once you have been there all these threads make more sense.

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When you get to the airbox you'll want the cables and wiring harness out of the way, and then you can cut it out and later glue it back in. There are a few pics of that in the pumpkin patch. Don't stress on the vent hoses; they'll be trashed anyway. Also, now is the time to take a million pics. Get a shot of everything from more than one angle and you'll thank yourself later!

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Thanks I was really happy to actually get in there and do something. So far I have almost 300 pictures of this project. All the planning and documentation was necessary so I could wrap my head around this project. I will look at the air box part of pumpkin patch. People try to save that and put it back in?

Talked to my mechanic friend who is willing to barter me making him a website for his shop for pulling, storing, and painting my engine. Possibly replacing the rear main seal, definitely points and condensers. and all new hoses. Best part is we are doing it at 11am tomorrow morning!

Diggin foam this afternoon. People talk about how their foam was dry on top and wet on the bottom. Mine is wet right there on top. I am thinking the wake is not going to be nearly as big when I put it back together, but I bet it jumps out of the hole even faster than before.
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I wouldnt attempt to save the air box... that seems more trouble than its worth! On my Ski Tique, I cut it out and threw it away. I kept the lip at the edge for when I poured the foam- that allowed me to shape it properly. I just covered it with glass like the rest of the floor- just like it was built from the factory.

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I would defnintely replace the engine seals while you have it out. Otherwise your nice new shiny bilge is going to get full of oil. Guess how I know...
Consider your tranny seals too. Check your timing chain. Mine was loose and just a few bucks to replace. You are already there, and these are cheap easy things to do.
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[QUOTE=Keeganino] , definitely points and condensers. and all new hoses. Best part is we are doing it at 11am tomorrow morning!
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definitely replace them... with a Mallory E-spark unit not new points and condensor, call Billy he as all the info you need.
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Bah, save your money on the conversion kit. Theres nothing wrong with points!
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Bah, save your money on the glass needed to rebuild the box.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Bah, save your money on the conversion kit. Theres nothing wrong with points!


I agree. If if it aint broke dont fix it. I plan to stick with P and C's. Since I am bartering for the work that gives me a bigger budget for the engine, or should I say- a budget. Supposedly this engine has never been rebuilt.   I will see what my mechanic thinks. He actually owned this boat for several years so he knows the engine very well. It ran well in November but as wake slayer mentioned, there was oil coming from somewhere, and I don't want that in the restored bilge. New seals are a great idea.

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I know I showed it yesterday but this is another look at the spot under the drivers seat. I have no idea how the seat did not fall through the floor.
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Unfortunately my stringers are not laid out like the ones in the blueprint. Notice the angle at the end of the (edit)secondary stringer.

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I used the sawzall to cut around the perimeter of each cavity of foam and then used my wrecking bar to pull up large sections. I like the idea of a wire brush on the end of a drill to get all the stuck on pieces out. The engine is coming out tomorrow. Then I will have some room to work. Will also get the cables and wires out after the engine is out so I can really get busy.
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You mean on the end of the main? Mine are blocks tacked on top of the mains with a piece of thin wood connecting them. Same thing in the front for the tabs for the kickboard. The tops of my actual stringers are straight.
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I was referring to the secondaries. At the end there by the exhaust the stringer takes a cut towards the outside wall of the hull. Not the same as the prints I got from jdiggs. In fact the stringers are totally different. Grrrrr!

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Get the engine out, all the foam and post some more pictures. I'd like to see a better view of the secondaries.


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Keegan, you can still use the stringer patterns that JDiggs created. Same hull, same engine, same PCM engine mounts. Dont let the minor differences confuse you- theyre still compatible! Like I said, we're using them on our Skier.

The difference youre seeing in the secondary stringer is only in the exhaust cavity. In the newer boats (Ski Tique), they got wider sooner. Rather than wait until the last 6", they widened the cavity just aft of the motorbox. This was probably due to the addition of mufflers (which were larger in diameter than the copper tubes). Doing yours in the newer style would give you a bit more room to work with- installing your hoses would be easier and you would have the option of adding mufflers someday. It appears the secondaris are in the same place on both boats.

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solid advice and bad jokes? some of the best jokes ive read were on CCF
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Pete, this may help you visualize:

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Got it Tim, thanks.


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