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k.o.
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Hey guys back after loooong time
For those wondering of this fix haha it lasted for nearly 10 years It only took 2 bearing change in that period. It would of lasted more but the damn trailer rusted and broke near the hitch So now we made a new trailer but running leaf spring again haha |
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k.o.
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haha thats my "father in law" haha you now after almost 2years with his daughter it's the 1st time i saw him in shorts. haha i've invited him to go skiing with us so he can get a tan.
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h20loo
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KO - that looks OK for a storage trailer and hopefully you don't run over any potholes in the yard. That 9th picture looks like you have a couple Canadians down there judging by the lack of tan on those legs!!! I get more color than that snow skiing-How does someone in Aruba miss the sun?
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k.o.
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lewy both side has been removed. the other one was ready to break also.
the pictures didn't upload well i have pics of both side and how the other side was but i don't now why it didn't upload |
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lewy2001
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The lifting ring is actually attached to the the bow eye on the 2001 by a piece of stainless threaded rod through bolted to a some stainless steel plate that is glassed into the bottom of the hull. The bow eye then bolts through this plate from below. I know this as I spent a couple of hours under the bow of my 89 today. Lifting by bow eye would be better as it would not have distorted the rub rail like the strap through the bow eye has.
I'm a bit like Pete not so sure of the trailer mod but it will possibly be ok over very short distance with a much reduced speed I would tend to half that 40klm/hr. I hope you ended up doing both sides because if one spring is that bad the other wont be far behind. |
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k.o.
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pete we do know how the lifting ring is atteched. i told him doit from the ring he said he would rather pull it from the eye since he doesn't trust the ring. he should now what's he's doing since it isn't the first time he done it this way neither the first boat he lifted and beside once it's on the forklift it's his responsiblilty.
tomorow we'll finish painting thes suport with anti rust paint and hope for the best. i'm not to happy about the step we've taken. i just can't order any springs at the moment so as soon as i have it i'll put them on. or as HW stated above a new axle altough i think everyone was against our desicion and plan thnx for looking and giving us advice even if we didn't do the best thing. thnx kenrick |
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8122pbrainard
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A gel crack in the deck next to the lifting eye??? Do you understand that the lifting eye is attached to the keel/stem and not the deck? By lifting from the bow eye you are certainly taking a risk! |
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beachdude24
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no the lifting eye is not rusted the lifting ring has smal crack in the gellcoat it came so from the states so we didnt risk it to pull the boat up from the lifting ring
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Living the Salt Life...Life is better in Aruba
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SNobsessed
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Pete, you beat me to it!
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“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”
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8122pbrainard
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k.o. and 24,
We all hope that this "fix" will work out for you. None of us have been very excited about the idea. BTW, what's wrong with your bow lifting eye? Is it rusted out too? |
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beachdude24
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we fixed the trailer today and everything when good we didn't put the boat back on the trailer yet that will happen tomorow morning here are some pictures.
Before lifting process after |
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Living the Salt Life...Life is better in Aruba
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backfoot100
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KO, This is the last thing you want to do. Lowering the pressure will make the tires heat up excessively which in turn will heat the wheels and bearings. To answer your next question, yes this will happen at lower speeds in just a couple miles. This will cause premature tire or bearing failure. How soon it will fail depends on the age and condition of your tires and bearings. Not a very good option. |
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When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.
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Hollywood
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good luck with your shortcut. might want to start saving up for a new axle now.
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k.o.
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wel tim the roads vary depanding on wich route we take it's smooth. but yes Aruba's roads are bumpy.
i think we'll have to think about this very good. realy don't want a cracked hull. i now there is a ski tique with no springs and the do trabvel more then 5 miles and they use highway with no problem. that's how we got the idea for elimnatig the springs anda fter the mechanic said it would be ok we figured nothing will happen. will low tire presurre help?? |
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TRBenj
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3 miles at 25mph, yikes! How good are these roads? I hope theyre smooth... Id be scared to drive up the driveway with no springs on my trailer! Sounds like a recipe for a cracked hull to me.
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k.o.
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the guy said the tires would obsorb all the bumps that we will encounter buy the truth is i'm afraid of this shortcut. i'll let it go for now and when i have some extra cash i'll order or let my gf father buy them for me from woody.
don't worry pete we drive slow. can't go over 40 km/h since we don't travel on highway. the distance is less then 3 miles to travel so we'll se how it turns out. it is long fork but i think it isn't long enough to be in the comfort zone. either way they will lift it eitehr with forklift or a container sideloader |
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8122pbrainard
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Not a problem as long as he uses long forks. I'd say at least 8 to 10 feet. Space the fork about the same distance as the stringer width. BTW, rack stored boats are lifted this way all the time. So, not springs on the trailer! Drive slow k.o.!! |
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k.o.
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so guys we spoke to the mechanic yesterday he knows trailers very good since he works for every beachbums trailer that needs to be repaired.
He told us to eliminate the leafsprings since we don't travel neither far or with high speed. he said he would reinforce the axle and make some extra brackets to hold the axle to the trailer. if all is goes well we should be back in the water saterday just in time for ccf member visit. my girlfrieds father will raise the boat with a forklift and leave it on the forklift since the job would only take 3 hours. will this be any stress to the hull?? he is planing to use a long fork from behind to lift it of the trailer. any cons of doing it this way?? thnx guys |
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k.o.
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woody thnx i'll let you know i'll chek local first to see if i can find something used. if not i'll ground ship it to port everglades and let my gf shipping company bring it.. thnx for the info. you'll hear from me soon |
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woodyelc
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Sorry i have not got back to you on the springs. they are 30 inch 6 leaf I can get them your cost would be $81.00 each plus shipping. Let me know if would like to order. Thanks Woody
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k.o.
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i'll call after lunch to se what he can do my father is on his way right now to the mechanic to see if i should order a spring or he will make on to fit it.
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TRBenj
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Exactly. Good luck finding those specialty CC springs elsewhere! I brought my #2 to a trailer supply/repair place, and they didnt know what the heck they were looking at- they had to have them custom made. KO, your best bet is to pick up the phone and call Woody. 407-851-1965 |
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k.o.
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that's why i emailed seccd en nautiques of orlando first but heard nothing back.. we will go your way pete just get short ones that hold 1500 each and make extension for them |
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8122pbrainard
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Bill, They are when the CC trailer has been made by CC! The 34.5" - 35" eye to eye is the kicker! It's why I mentioned the new shackle brackets being welded on as a option. |
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k.o.
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repairing is no option since it broke completly. we have a guy that does all the repairs on watersport rentals. today or tomorow i will look in junkyards too take one of a pickup or somthing like that.
i know spring should be easy but evrything for these boat here are specialty the don't carry no spare parts for ski boats here hope to get everything going before the visit of a fellow member or else we have to ride in a ski brendella |
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SkiBum
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Leaf springs are not specialty items. Understand that you are not in the continental United States, but...I would suppose that you could take your busted springs to a mechanic and he can get replacement springs, build new ones, or repair the ones you have now using leafs from other vehicles and/or trailers.
If not, try searching for trailer supply stores: trailer parts depot I bought from these folks before. You can get all of the replacement parts you need. |
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k.o.
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wel i emailed SECC and nautiques of orlando still no email back. if anyone knows the prices from any of those store let me know
right now the tire is pressed against the fendermount. i think i'll start searching in the junkyard to see if i'm lucky to find something to work with. i went to one of our boat supply shops i ran from prices and they weren't even close match they were over 120$ so really not going that way. i will be lifting the boat very soon of the trailer and put it on brick scared to do that but have no other choice. all repair must be done in front of my house since the trailer can't move anymore. i was actually cheking a few hours ago to see if there is an ghetto fix but realised better do it right so i won't damage the axle the mono leaf would be ideal for our waters but for now i will work with anything that will do the job. woody i think your the woddy of secc. So can you please sent me info about the springs you have available??? kenrick_oduber@hotmail.com thnx guys i will uload photo when i lift the boat of the trailer |
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SkiBum
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I replaced the leaf springs on boat trailers several times. Most recently I bought the springs from NAPA. I have ordered them through trailer supply stores in the past.
The measurement is from eye to eye. However, if your springs are worn down, then the measurement is not correct. That is because in worn out springs the rear shackle is angled toward the back of the boat. The good springs the shackles face forward. Just get springs that have similar leaf configurations and measure from the front eye to a point where the shackle should be facing forward. I have never paid more than $100 for a pair of springs. |
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8122pbrainard
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Woody, You'll see that KO started the thread and in his first post identified the trailer. The picture you are referring to is mine. It's a MC copy of a CC! Don't worry, it's not used for a CC but rather my X55!! I posted it as a suggestion to using a mono leaf rater than the 6 leaf CC spring. If you read more of the post, you'll see that KO's located in Aruba so the trailer is in and out of the ocean. The thought is that even though the boat and trailer is washed down, the multi-leaf springs are trapping salt water way down inside them causing premature failure. |
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