86 SN rebuild

Keeganino wrote: Oak is heavy and not very rot resistant.

Keegan,
You must be thinking of the Red Oaks. White Oak is very rot resistant and the reason it's been used since day one by high end wood boat builders.

Matt,
Why the 2x12's? Are you doing something that needs them to be that wide?

I would love to post updated photo's, but life kind of got in the way. First, my truck died, so that ate up a weekend. The next weekend, mother nature thought we needed rain, then the doctor said I needed to have both knees operated on. So three weekends were lost.

I thought I could get back to it fairly quickly, but the recovery is longer than I was hoping for. I can stand and walk a little, but not enough for me to crawl into a boat. So, again, I'm waiting.

But, rest assured, as soon as my body will allow me to get over the rail, I'll be back to it. I have a spring deadline.

Jeff

Update:
It appears that the Doctor doesn't understand what I'm doing According to him, I can't golf, hunt, replace stringers, play baseball or anything else that I care about until February 1. He did say that I can fish, as long as I don't have a lot of twisting movement. Although, I know he is right and it's for the best, it will kill me to wait that long.

That being said, I have started recruiting some friends who indicated that they would be willing to help. If all goes well, I should be able to stay outside the boat and have a friend inside the hull. I'm very particular, so I'm not sure how it will go, but my friends have all indicated that they would like the opportunity to learn how to do this. So, it will be slow, but I'm hopeful that I can still show some progress.

So, if I have long periods between posts, be confident, my butt is in a easy chair watching a football game.

Jeff

Ranger wrote: Update: It appears that the Doctor doesn't understand what I'm doing According to him, I can't golf, hunt, replace stringers, play baseball or anything else that I care about until February 1. He did say that I can fish, as long as I don't have a lot of twisting movement. Although, I know he is right and it's for the best, it will kill me to wait that long. That being said, I have started recruiting some friends who indicated that they would be willing to help. If all goes well, I should be able to stay outside the boat and have a friend inside the hull. I'm very particular, so I'm not sure how it will go, but my friends have all indicated that they would like the opportunity to learn how to do this. So, it will be slow, but I'm hopeful that I can still show some progress. So, if I have long periods between posts, be confident, my butt is in a easy chair watching a football game. Jeff

Boy, you have better friends than me. If my neighbor was rebuilding his boat and knowing what I know as far as what is involved, I would stay hidden or tell hime I have health issues that would prevent me from helping him

8122pbrainard wrote: Matt R. wrote: I have a question for Pete or whoever. Could a person use Cyphrees for stringers? Just a question. I would not use Cyprus for glassed in stringers. It's a oily wood and you would have problems with the resin bonding. Why, do you have a bunch of it? Hard time finding Doug Fir?

Wouldn't an LVL also have this issue? They are impregnated with something "waxy".

YooperSully wrote: 8122pbrainard wrote: Matt R. wrote: I have a question for Pete or whoever. Could a person use Cyphrees for stringers? Just a question. I would not use Cyprus for glassed in stringers. It's a oily wood and you would have problems with the resin bonding. Why, do you have a bunch of it? Hard time finding Doug Fir? Wouldn't an LVL also have this issue? They are impregnated with something "waxy".

Roger,
They aren't "impregnated". There is a surface coating for rain protection since we all know carpenters can't get under roof in a timely manner! You belt sand the surface off along with the coating or simply order it without the optional "weathershed? coating. Roger, you need to find a decent lumber yard that knows WTF they are talking about!! Hopefully you aren't shopping at Menards!

I have talked to L. L. Johnson's and they are only an hour & a half away but they tell me they only have 2x6's 14 fts and if I'm measuring right I need at least a 2x8. I was able to find 1x10's brought into a local lumberyard and my question is can I take the 1x10's that I am able to get and epoxy the 2 together to get the 2x? thanks

Hey Jeff-

I have my stringer cut and cpes-ed. I have about 4 days of drying for the cpes and plan to get after bedding the main stringers. My question is:

What is the max gap between the hull floor and stringers? (Where they meet, that is.) I know that this will be covered by a fillet, but I am just wondering how perfectionist I need to be on the angle.

Thanks, y'all.

Yes, Keegan is right, the closer and tighter you scribe in the stringers, the better. If you take your time, you can get it fairly tight to the hull. I set the stringer in place, leveled it like I wanted, made sure it was plumb and then took the largest gap as the distance to scribe the stringer. Once I had it rough cut, I made small adjustments as needed.

I have only scribed in two, but they came out nice. I found that a power plan helped get the stringer close, then I used a portable belt sander and a small grinder to finish it up.

Since this weekend's weather didn't allow me to bed the stringer like I had hoped, I decided to build the port main. I haven't cut the port main out of the boat, so I built a mirror of the starboard side and left it an 1/8 inch larger so that I can trim it in.

I'm hoping that the port side is somewhat similar. If not, I have some firewood

Jeff

We are still waiting for warmer weather to bed the main. I talked to US composites today and learned that the medium hardener requires temperatures above 55 degrees for 2 hours. We have been fighting with a small repair that we’ve done three times. With evening temperatures in the middle 30's and daytime highs in the middle 60's, we can't get the resin to cure properly. It only gets to middle 60's for a couple of hours which is not enough time for the part and resin to warm. I used heat lamps to warm the part, but failed to warm the resin. Sounds simple enough, but maybe not.

Keep your fingers crossed, it is supposed to get in the middle 70's this weekend. So we might be able to get something done.

You learn something everyday!

Jeff

Keegan, which hardener did you use when the temperature was cooler. I was thinking of ordering some fast hardener, which will work with the cooler temps, but US Composites suggested that I just wait until the weather cooperates.

Jeff

We finally have the starboard main bedded. It's sunny and 80 degrees outside. Feels good to get something done. I'll try to post some picks before Monday.

Hopefully, the weather will cooperate. I would really like to make some progress.

Jeff

Looks good !my boat looks just like yours with wiring hanging by wheel. keep pics coming . Jeff

I might also wax the deck real good. Maybe even leave it on there so that if resin gets on there it cant soak in and make a good bond.