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    Posted: March-19-2012 at 1:26am
Jack,
   This is my dials with new glass and tachometer decal. Let me know if you want to do this.

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Well I managed to make some progress this evening on my carb. Adjusting the choke to be just right at closed then helped me get my idle down to where I want it to be via the idle screw. The screws on the sides of the front bowl are a turn and a half from the seated position. Does this sound like it is about on the right track? I ran it in the driveway for a while with no issues. Changed the transmission fluid out as well. Lake test maybe tomorrow but definitely Thursday. Still going to have my timing checked out by one of the mechanics at work and show me how to adjust it etc.
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LOL, nope its Welsh "The google machine" seems to make a good translation so I went with it, you were close(ish) with Gaelic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_language

One of the great things about being in the UK is that we just make up what we want to be depending on where you are born..Irish, Scottish, Welsh, English or Cornish...Not sure any of us will ever be European though.

I love the Google machine

Oh and I didn't even know about the Breton language!!! that's something else to keep me busy tomorrow


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LOL! Small world. You installed my tower. I got your PM I will call you soon to hook you up with new glass beazels and tach decal.
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That's me on the left and Joes son Scott on the right
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Alright Matt you got us on that one, Gaelic? Possibly something from the Nordic countries (Swedish, Finnish, Norweigan)???
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Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

Originally posted by Jllogan Jllogan wrote:

Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

Originally posted by Jllogan Jllogan wrote:

Der Teufel steckt im Detail


Sie scherz sind nicht!


gut, du kanst duetsch sprechen!! Jetzt konnen wir privat sprache.


Ja, ein bisschen Deutsch sprechen, es ist schwer zu merken ist.   Nicht ganz so privat, einige unserer freunde in Europa verstehen


Ja du bist richtig. Mein deutsch ist ok. Meine Frau Oma und Opa Leben in Bayern. Wir Werden im mai besuchen. Jetzt zuruck zu boote!
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Since the post went all European:

Nid yw pob iaith yn Ewrop mor hawdd i'w ddeall, ond yn ffodus google gall helpu


Now then...

Not wanting to add anything to the oil debate but I did find this on my search in the UK for some oil at a reasonable price with zddp after I had read far to many posts on here about what to use...

http://www.cvpg.net/wp-content/uploads/RoleofZDDPinTraditionalEngineOils.pdf
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Jake,
   Do you know these guys? The are the ones that installed my tower.

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Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

Originally posted by Jllogan Jllogan wrote:

Der Teufel steckt im Detail


Sie scherz sind nicht!


gut, du kanst duetsch sprechen!! Jetzt konnen wir privat sprache.


Ja, ein bisschen Deutsch sprechen, es ist schwer zu merken ist.   Nicht ganz so privat, einige unserer freunde in Europa verstehen
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Originally posted by rcthorpe rcthorpe wrote:

Watch out, now on page 2. Keith's gonna shut us down with another oil thread!

   LOL!   

That is hilarious, so far it's been pretty calm, all fact based (except for my miscue's) and opinions have been limited, so we should be safe...

Having said that, I think all contributors to the oil discussion have all reached their appropriate and correct conclusions, so we can get back to other questions for Oletela's new (to him) Ski Nautique!
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Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

Originally posted by Jllogan Jllogan wrote:

Der Teufel steckt im Detail


Sie scherz sind nicht!


gut, du kanst duetsch sprechen!! Jetzt konnen wir privat sprache.
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Welcome Ole! You have a great boat! Good luck on the Carb. And may all your oil be full and zinc-fully slick!
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Watch out, now on page 2. Keith's gonna shut us down with another oil thread!
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Originally posted by anthonylizardi anthonylizardi wrote:

Use 40. The reason I'm using the 20w-50 is because VR1 usually can only be found in 10w-30 or 20w-50.You only need these zddp oils when you have a flat engin. e. .


By 40 I meant multi grade. There is no reason not to.
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Same way, was prepared to dump out 5 quarts of 20w50 VR-1 with roughly 20 minutes of use. Probably going to have one eye on the oil pressure gauge all summer long...
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Steve, youre close! Rotella doesnt come in 20w50 (it comes in 15w40 last time I checked). I think the majority here are using the VR1 because of the higher ZDDP content. Rotella has a bit less. My fallback option is the VR1, I have been trying to get the 5qt jugs of 15w50 Mobil1 when its available.

I would not put a lot of stock in the original oil recommendations. A lot has changed in the last 15 years. Not only are there very few oils with appropriate ZDDP levels for out flat tappet cams, but multiweight oils are also much better now than they were just a few years ago. They offer better cold start up lubrication than the straight weights.


Dang it Tim, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!! Rotella is 15w40, last time I checked it did have over 1200 PPM ZDDP. As you indicated VR-1 also meets that minimimum, before I switched to Brad Penn, I was running VR-1 Racing 40W (Brad Penn is about half the price), the cold start argument is valid for the multiweight oils, but "Zie manual, zie sayz 40 VEIGHT, Vee use 40Veight!!!" If I don't my grandfather will probably rise from the grave and slap me up the side of the head

Thanks for the clarification on the Flat Tappet Fords, I was going back to double check to make sure so I didn't put another false one out there! HA!   
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No idea about the Ford. Let me rephrase then,if I had
98 with a non-flat-tapped engine I would use Mobil 1. You learn every day around here.

As far as I know. The people using Rottela they only recommend straight weight 40. I read the multi grade doesn't have enough Zddp. Thats another debate. To add to your confusion, You can use favorite oil. Just add zddp. This stuff is sold separate. I don't do it because is more expensive and I have to find it. VR1 had the goods and works well for me.
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Originally posted by anthonylizardi anthonylizardi wrote:

Use 40. The reason I'm using the 20w-50 is because VR1 usually can only be found in 10w-30 or 20w-50.You only need these zddp oils when you have a flat engin. e. New engines dont need that. If I had a 98 I would rather use Mobil 1 syn. Cheaper and a great oil.

The Fords were flat tappet all the way to the very end in 2002.

Mobil1 is great, but make sure the grade youre using has the high zinc and phos levels if you have a flat tappet cam. The 15w50 falls into this category.

The 20w50 VR1 is a great choice. There is no reason to use a straight weight oil over it, IMHO.
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I put VR-1 20w50 in this year ('97 351 EFI GT40). It sounds to me like this should be fine, probabaly switch to straight 40 for 2013/change for 2012?
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Use 40. The reason I'm using the 20w-50 is because VR1 usually can only be found in 10w-30 or 20w-50.You only need these zddp oils when you have a flat engin. e. New engines dont need that. If I had a 98 I would rather use Mobil 1 syn. Cheaper and a great oil.
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Thanks. Love the colors on your '98. Hope to get my pics of my '97 up soon. I picked it up from Northern Wisconsin over the winter.
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Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

A lot of folks do run the 20W50, usually the Rotella. The VR-1 also has adequate ZDDP (both over 1200 PPM, most consider that the minimum for flat tappet motors). I figure the 40W is what the manual says, 40W is what I will run, probably my German heritage leaking through again...

Steve, youre close! Rotella doesnt come in 20w50 (it comes in 15w40 last time I checked). I think the majority here are using the VR1 because of the higher ZDDP content. Rotella has a bit less. My fallback option is the VR1, I have been trying to get the 5qt jugs of 15w50 Mobil1 when its available.

I would not put a lot of stock in the original oil recommendations. A lot has changed in the last 15 years. Not only are there very few oils with appropriate ZDDP levels for out flat tappet cams, but multiweight oils are also much better now than they were just a few years ago. They offer better cold start up lubrication than the straight weights.
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A lot of folks do run the 20W50, usually the Rotella. The VR-1 also has adequate ZDDP (both over 1200 PPM, most consider that the minimum for flat tappet motors). I figure the 40W is what the manual says, 40W is what I will run, probably my German heritage leaking through again...
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Same motor I'm running in my '97. I had heard some were running VR-1 20w50 on our setup and was looking for feedback.
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skutsch- Are you running 20w50 in your '08? It sounds like the same engine in mine that calls for 40 weight.


Sorry, I should have been more clear, its Brad Penn Racing straight 40W (per the manufacturers recommendation) and its actually a 98 Sport. To be more specific the engine is a ProBoss GT40 EFI PCM 5.8HO (Ford).
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High idle - vacuum leak?


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Try squrting wd40 at the carb base, if rpm raises then you are sucking air somewhere...
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skutsch- Are you running 20w50 in your '08? It sounds like the same engine in mine that calls for 40 weight.
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