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John, I hope you know that I genuinely enjoyed meeting you at green lake.

I think you miss-understand what I was saying about the parks. I will defend to my death your right to enjoy a vacation during your hard earned retirement. I just thought it a little curious that of all the things government should be doing, when you looked at how its shut down might effect you a closed park was the problem. I have a new analogy for the government, and it shows the very reason our founders choose to place strict limits on government. Government by its very nature is like the little old lady who swallowed the fly and then wrongly thinks she will die. the story goes on with baby steps to remedy the problem (swallows a spider to eat the fly) until she swallows a horse and dies of course.

With the parks a president decided we needed to buy the parks to preserve the natural wonders. (I don't know why we bought the parks). then we had to build roads though the preserved wilderness (a little ironic)so the people could go in and see what we preserved in the parks (I don't know why we bought the parks), after all they paid for it. next we had to build paths for the people so they would not trip in the wilderness of the parks (I don't know why we bought the parks). Then we had to build lodges and campgrounds to house the people that were walking the paths in the parks (I don't know why we bought the parks). Then we had to build interpretive centers to fight boredom and explain the wilderness to the people in the campgrounds and lodges in the parks (I don't know why we bought the parks). Then we had to give government pensions to the campground workers in the parks (I don't know why we bought the parks)Then we had to make the the pristine wilderness we saved with by buying the parks handicap accessible (I don't know why we bought the parks). Bigger must have projects will continue to come along (we will go broke of course).

And this is just one teeny little piece of the non-essential budgets we pay for everyday. And then they complain that they don't have enough money to pay for cops, teachers and roads. That makes me a little angry. Our founders saw all this coming and put our inspired constitution in place to prevent it, but we as a society have chosen to ignore and pervert the very document that made us exceptional to become more like those that are not!

Ok now I am late for work. Have a great day!
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John,
I cant take credit for that bumper sticker. (altho I wish I could :) I just happened to post it first.

A lot of humor is at the expense of others... sometimes that hits a nerve. I think a lot of the posts in this marathon thread have been out of frustration... and maybe a bit of jealousy.

There area lot of things I get frustrated over ... I'm 59 and look at my retirement funds (actually lack thereof) and could cry... after all, I did everything "right". Started saving and investing early in life, only to see it mostly wiped out by circumstances I had nothing to do with.

Pam and I have worked our azz off to build a small business (which "O" reminded me "We didn't build that.. someone else did" .. funny, I go into work at 6:30 most mornings. I never see "someone else" there?).

We started our business in 1986 ... and had one 10 day vacation in the first 15 years. Then we were finally able to hire an employee. He was there almost 6 years. Pam and I were actually able to take a couple of weeks of vacations EACH year! WOW! this is great!!! THEN the economy hit the skids. (btw, I didn't do that..."Someone else did that:(

It's back to just her and I. No more "frivolous" vacations. Now we actually close the doors of the business when we want a few days off to do silly things, like go to Green Lake. Kind of hard to have any income when the doors are closed. Not sure we will ever see another "week" vacation...

My health insurance rates have almost doubled in the last few years (What is so "Affordable" in this act?) Just went to dentist- xrays, cleaning and 360 bucks lighter, I'm back on the street... btw, the doc says I need almost 800 bucks worth of work sometime in the near future.... don't wait up doc... My insurance doesn't cover this.

I am completely embarrassed with pretty much ALL of these so called "public servant" politicians and the way they act. They are soooooo far out of touch with what the average Joe is doing to survive. What a JOKE.



On a lighter note, there are a few positives...

I still think we live in the greatest nation on earth. (altho I am VERY concerned with the direction it is going... mainly for my grandkids)

I'm still am able to buy gas for my boat. (good teeth are over rated, right?)

We rarely "go out" to eat. (gotta buy gas for the boat, you know?!)
   but We still have food on the table.

I come home to a house that the majority of the worlds population would think a king lives in.

I am free to worship on Sunday mornings. (somehow, that's not as popular with the general masses as it used to be)


and finally, we can all express our sometimes silly thoughts and beliefs on public forums without being thrown in jail. (I hear rumours they are working on changing that?)

Anyway, I gotta get some shut eye... 5:30AM comes pretty quickly. ( maybe "someone else" will finally show up at work tomorrow morning?)

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Oh, one more thing, in reviewing the posts to find my old post I found a post by 62wood shows without a doubt that Steve is the first one here to post a photo with the caption "does this a** make my truck look big" and Obama's face is on it.
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Hi Dave,
First off let me thank you again for your generosity at the GL reunion. I enjoyed meeting you, your son, and the family pup, and it was a pleasure to get a ride in your boat.
I really don't know why you seem angry that I had an enjoyable vacation visiting our national parks on the way home from visiting my daughter. I feel for the people who have spent their savings on a dream vacation to one of our national parks only to find them shuttered.
May I remind you that I worked many years of 60, 80, and even 100 hour weeks before I retired so I could pay for my children's education and put some money into my IRA and savings, and I have actively invested that money to get a return that can support some of my activities. I shared some of my views on investing this thread. While many were criticizing the government for supporting alternative energy and investing in some of the technology companies involved I embraced the technology. It has proven to be a much better strategy than "drill baby drill".

I have trouble understanding how your money supports my vacation.
I made a few of my investment selections clear to all with these posts. This is how I pay for my retirement.



Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:




Obama's 90 billion dollars on green energy is one example. AND THEY ALL WENT BANKRUPT.   


This is the kind of bankrupt everyone wants!

The Department of Energy invested $465,000,000 in Tesla in October 2011. At that time it would have bought 18,637,274 shares, since stock was trading at $24.96

Today that stock is worth $689,579,138

Department of Energy profit of $224,579,138.

Solar City, another company the Department of Energy invested in with a loan of $275,000,000, went public in December 2012 at $11.00 Two months later the stock closed at $15.63, up 42% in 60 days, I'll take that.

Department of Energy profit = $115,000,000.

There are others as well, but these are the only ones I have positions in. There is always a great deal of risk in small cap new technology, but the rewards can be great as well. Everyone picks a big loser sometimes, and you don't have to pick more winners than losers either, just have a big winner come along once in a while. The risk was especially high with some of these given the time frame the purchase was made, with an election just on the horizon..

As a wise man on this site once said, "Do what you always do, get what you always got". Few people were ever exceptionally successful relying on an old business model. You have to think of the next thing.

And here is my follow up to that post.

[QUOTE=john b] I had to revisit this post. As I said back in January I invested in those terrible companies that all went broke under O'bama. This post in January is more true today than ever.
How are these companies of the future doing now? Just check if you haven't been following the business news. Too bad we didn't support Solyndra a bit longer. They went out of business and now we are forced to buy our solar panels from China for the booming solar business.
O'bama, a visionary. How's your oil stock doin on that "drill baby drill" platform?

Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

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Obama's 90 billion dollars on green energy is one example. AND THEY ALL WENT BANKRUPT.   


This is the kind of bankrupt everyone wants!

The Department of Energy invested $465,000,000 in Tesla in October 2011. At that time it would have bought 18,637,274 shares, since stock was trading at $24.96


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Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

I am fortunate to have visited North Cascades, Glacier, Yellowstone, and Grand Tetons national parks over the past three weeks. This would have thrown a wet blanket on my vacation.


As I work my 60 hour weeks to scrape and paying ever increasing taxes. I am always comforted knowing the dollars I pay in are keeping john from having a wet blanket vacation.

You really don't need staff to enjoy our parks. In fact you can have a great time despite them.

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Originally posted by ncdoubleup ncdoubleup wrote:

This is one that someone sent us the other day.


Be careful, you have fallen for our secret plan to eliminate you all!
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This is one that someone sent us the other day.

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I am fortunate to have visited North Cascades, Glacier, Yellowstone, and Grand Tetons national parks over the past three weeks. This would have thrown a wet blanket on my vacation.
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To quote R.E.M. "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine." One has to question why the government is providing and taxing for non-essential services in the first place?
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Hey, its a picture of the leader of the Republican party!
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John, What were you doing with the lumber in the back of your truck?


Making a tower for the Mustang?

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Obviously inspired by a truck seen in northern Wisconsin around the time of the GL reunion.
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I have to admit, the guy does have an ability to inspire people !
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definitely worth the risk
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Here is one you don't see every day. I saw this on the road yesterday. I had to take a few risks to get the pic, but it was captured without incident!






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It wasn't really a robbery, just social justice without the middleman.
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I saw a news flash yesterday . Bank robber wears Obama mask. I wonder if he will be allowed to do that again?
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AFL-CIO demands ObamaCare fix

"But unions were able to coalesce around one resolution that took aim at the ACA’s impact on multi-employer health plans, undermining the 40-hour work week and its series of taxes and fees that will hit collectively-bargained coverage particularly hard."

“You allow an ACA bill to go through like this, I guarantee you by your next convention four years from now, you won’t meet a quarter of this room. We won’t be here,” Nigro said.


Even the biggest supporters of Obama care are realizing they cant afford to "keep their healthplan" like Obama promised. Those lucky enough to not get cut back to 29 hours a week are going to end up in the exchanges. By the way, the fix is tax payer subsides to keep their cadillac health care like the government workers are promised. The more we exempt and subsidize, The higher the costs of Obamacare will go for everyone else.


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Sooooo, Obamas going to address the nation Tuesday (a priority right after Sunday or Monday night football) about chemical weapon use in Syria. I am think his information will be about as credible as when he addressed the UN 13 days after Benghazi and said it was a spontaneous attack in response to a video. Seams to me if given a choice of choosing between a dictator and rebels that are made up of somewhere between 25 and 50% Al qaeda the only way to win is not to play the game.
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    Q. In what circumstances, if any, would the president have constitutional authority to bomb Iran without seeking a use-of-force authorization from Congress? (Specifically, what about the strategic bombing of suspected nuclear sites — a situation that does not involve stopping an IMMINENT threat?)

    OBAMA: The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

    As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent.



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Biden spoke in front of a crowd of approximately 100 at a candidate forum held Thursday at Seacoast Media Group. The forum focused on the Iraq war and foreign policy. When an audience member expressed fear of a war with Iran, Biden said he does not typically engage in threats, but had no qualms about issuing a direct warning to the Oval Office.

    "The president has no authority to unilaterally attack Iran, and if he does, as Foreign Relations Committee chairman, I will move to impeach," said Biden, whose words were followed by a raucous applause from the local audience.


Oh what a difference a few years and a little more power makes. I don't think either of them has a clue what they said in the past because it was all the politics of the moment and not coming from any type of a moral compass.


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i wonder if he laughed when he was young at the president reagan mask
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Originally posted by peter1234 peter1234 wrote:

what rodeo clown hasnt worn a reagan , bush or bush   or clinton mask?


yeahhhhhh, I wonder why none of those made national news?

What's different this time?   Guess king O' doesn't like being jabbed at?
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what rodeo clown hasnt worn a reagan , bush or bush   or clinton mask?
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Don't you know it is wrong to do things at the expense of others........


hmmmmm, must have missed that memo...
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Don't you know it is wrong to do things at the expense of others.......except for taxes of course.
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obama rodeo clown

should this have been a big deal? Why did it even make the national news? I just heard the guy lost his job? ..Really?



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once the two words come out... al sharpton     nothing can be taken seriously
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MSNBC and CNN are all over it Dave. I can already hear the lies coming from Chris Mathews and Al Sharpton.
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