You didn build that !

all i know is, for my daughter to play the violin in school this year it will cost me 220.00 bucks (to the school distict), the naysayers dispute this with, "hey, tell your kid to get a paper route...it aint suppose to be that way, yes I agree work ethic should be instilled into children, but also opportunity should be available also. obviously, Romney is part of the problem and not the solution, he lives in a country that gives you the opportunity to clip the consumer (someones money) for 20 million, but, that comes with a price.
and here is the difference, I took employment with a company that has democratic values and beliefs, the very first day i was covered 100% on their healthcare plan, not *************** healthcare but excellent HC, needless to say my daughters eye exam and glasses cost me 24 bucks, without this coverage i would estimate this would have been 800.00 out of pocket with out it, that hits my bottom line at home....but, the CEO which he employs close to 500 people took the stage at a recent christening and maybe taboo, but relayed his polictical beliefs to the audiance, very far left, doesnt roll to work in a Mercedes, I listened to every word he said which including paying his and the company's share of taxes, in which it is his and the company's CIVIC duty to pay the taxes and his duty to take care of each and everyone of his employees....it caught me off gaurd and i really changed my thinking about a guy like that. I really dont see any of these qaulities in Romney, Guys like the CEO of the compnay i work for made this a great country, 114 years in business, thats what its about

Seth, its funny cause a couple years back when they were slow there the GM was going to lay 3 guys off in the dead of winter, he called the GM and the 3 guys into his office, he took the pink slips and threw them at the GM and said you aint fcin laying anybody off, they are still employed to this day. And yes, Ive spoke to him once in 6 months, he is a leader in my eyes and it did change my thoughts, I'll give him a hard days work and take care of loose ends (pita's) u know what i mean...slackers
I dont think we will have to worry about Romney

Don't think we have to worry about Romney winning, in a fair election.


Can we move on to the real issues now?

Obama's grades.   

Seth, I challenge you to name one thing BO has done that is/was good for this country.

I was looking for the Dem talking points, but I didn't want to pick on you.

1st go back and watch the link WW posted

I admit I don't know much about the great lakes money, but it does fit with his unprecidented spending; and we know the national debt is approaching 16 trillion.

We're still in Iraq, and the way he took credit for that is like big al inventing the internet.

I'll let the unemployment issue alone; if you like it...

BuffaloBFN wrote: Seth, I challenge you to name one thing BO has done that is/was good for this country.

Only a person who is very uninformed and has refused to objectively assess politics as a whole would ask this question about any sitting president. If you are unable to think of anything you need to become involved and read, not just blindly throw accusations. I don't need to waste my time trying to educate you on bills, health care, Social Security, Unemployment, taxes, foreign aid, education, ending unjustified wars and the like. Seek knowledge and you will find your answers. If your political knowledge is gained by posting to a boat site's political thread and accepting answers as fact, I can see why you can't think of 10 things, or probably any.
If you come to this site seeking information about the proper cutlass bearing for your 57 Atom Skier, you have come to the right place.

BuffaloBFN wrote: Seth, I challenge you to name one thing BO has done that is/was good for this country.

Easy...... Just one?   osama bin laden.    That is sure to rile you up a bit, I am sure as the right seem to think killing the terrorist was Bushs credit.


Ensuring those with pre-existing conditions get healthcare coverage and routine preventative care is covered.




simple really.. There are quite a few I could name, but I need you to remember Obama is not my darling of the left, as I have said many times here.    He simply is better than the competition even if I think he does not go far enough to the left.

Do not get me wrong...
I believe that Obama will be re-elected.

I believe that there are enough people on entitlements, plus hispanics (vote democratic), plus blacks (vote democratic) to keep a Democrat in office for many years to come. At least until they have to change entitlement spending or the country goes banckrupt. We should be able to hold out for my lifetime, about 20 more years.

It has been said for many years that when the "Have Nots" can vote themselves a raise from the "Haves" that we are domed as a society. You just have to wait it out. I believe that we are at that point.
Just an opinion.....

So it really does not matter to me what Obama has done, good or bad... it will continue....

I will let you pick the county in NC that you would like.
NC Free Clinics

You live in Villa Park IL and here are the free clinics there..
Villa Park free clinics

Lots of information out there on the web.

You can walk in any hospital and say you do not have Insurance and they have to treat you. Supreme Court ruled on this a long time ago.

critter wrote: I will let you pick the county in NC that you would like. NC Free Clinics You live in Villa Park IL and here are the free clinics there.. Villa Park free clinics Lots of information out there on the web. O You can walk in any hospital and say you do not have Insurance and they have to treat you. Supreme Court ruled on this a long time ago.

You are truly a fool.
I called all that had 24 hour phones. The first two laughed when I asked if they provided free health care. They do however take major credit cards to pay for their services.

Ronald McDonald's house is clearly not an option for me, I don't think the Hamburgler has a medical license.

Paralyzed Veterans was not a good option since I am neither.

Grace Lutheran Church couldn't help me, I am an ordained Minister myself anyway.

Access Addison is not free. They will however take cash or credit card.

Alma family Health requires cash or a major credit card.

PCCillin North Avenue requires cash    or a major credit card.

Pads is a homeless shelter and only provides space on a gym or church floor on a night by night basis to homeless people and families during the winter months. My friend volunteers there.

Melrose Park Medical takes cash or credit card.

Serenity House, in Addison, where I was a Police Officer, is mostly government funded for released inmates with alcohol and drug problems. I know them well. They take cash or credit card as well.

Like I said, show me just one.

John, I will not stoop to your level..
I will see you at a reunion and we will talk about you calling me
a fool and an idiot as you did earlier.....
We will meet.

Come show your 70 off.. I would love to see it

This is getting Ugly

critter wrote: Come show your 70 off.. I would love to see it

Maybe you will see it someday. Life is about far more than politics and hatred. I can enjoy the company of people who don't think or look like me. I respect others opinions, but I stop short of believing many of them. What is truly tearing this country apart is the hatred and threats like you communicated.
Discussion, disagreement, and an occasional insult is acceptable behavior in society, threats of violence is not..

Edit post... not worth my time.