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 Topic: Dripless shaft seal or NOT?Posted: February-15-2013 at 12:54am |
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I am contemplating the idea of replacing my old worn out stuffing box on my 1979 Nautique with a Dripless version? Doe anybody have feed back if this is a good idea or not? I have heard mixed results about dripless. Also, since it is a new project of mine can anyone give me a few techniques, shortcuts, special tools or things to watch out for? I think my Shaft is a 1" diameter (in need of confirmation of diameter) so I can order a new stuffing box unit!
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Posted: February-15-2013 at 11:54am |
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I have one on my Tique and have had great results
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Posted: February-15-2013 at 1:49pm |
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my question would be why? i can somewhat understand on a V-Drive that is a real pain to get to for maintenance but isn't your packing gland fairly easy to get to? it's hundred year old technology that works pretty well. i repacked mine with the goretex variety, check it every now and then, but it is virtually dripless. a few drips a minute.
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Posted: February-15-2013 at 4:11pm |
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I have to replace the stuffing box anyway (threads are worn out, lock nut won't even stay in-place it just wobbles). So I just figure, since I have to go to all the work of dismantling the shaft to put a new stuffing box in, I just thought to spend a little extra and get a dripless that takes a little more of the worry out!
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: February-15-2013 at 9:03pm |
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I totally agree. I feel they are half way to a gimmick as well as a bling item. Carey, since you need to change the packing gland, you might as well try the dripless. |
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boeing777
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Peter, I am glad you shared your advice. It is so nice to hear that coming from someone who has done so much (Nautique restoring) and besides been so helpful to me in the past. I think I will sink a bit extra into going to the dripless version.
Can you share any advice to speed up the process, or hints on what not to do? Maybe even special tools? Thanks again....... |
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Keep us up to date on the progress. The rubber is in need of replacement on my old Mustang and I am considering this route as well.
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Posted: February-16-2013 at 10:10am |
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Agree with jbach, I've often considered dripless for my Century which is v-drive and near impossible to get at.
Does anyone know: cost of dripless system and preferred brand name? Also, this would be waaay beyond my abilities, anyone know approximate labor cost, or can recommend anywhere within a few hours of Atlanta? |
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Posted: February-16-2013 at 4:55pm |
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Hi Jeff (74Wind), I have been doing a little research on the subject over the last little while and have been told of basically two really good versions of dripless seals. The Lasdrop version is around $150.00+ and the PSS version is $200.00+ Of course this is for the part only, labour would be extra.
Here is the link from Go2Marine to see for yourself: http://www.go2marine.com/category/12014/dripless-shaft-seals-for-boats.html Carey.... |
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Posted: February-16-2013 at 4:59pm |
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Carey
Those instructions I sent you are for the PSS I put in my Tique Steve |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: February-16-2013 at 7:18pm |
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Sorry Carey but you didn't provide a link. Here's a proper link to Go2 marine |
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Well I finished the install of the Lasdrop dripless shaft seal the other day. Aside from the 2-1/2 hour removal of the shaft-to-tranny flange (it was extremely corroded, and had to change bolt lengths numerous times in order to remove the flange) the job went relatively smooth. Now, I am anxious for the sea trials, and life without a adjustable packing gland. Here is a pic of the installation.
 
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Posted: March-29-2013 at 5:54pm |
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PSS is factory installed on Nautiques now. The 200 ski still runs good old shaft packing.
I used gortex in my 86 with excellent resluts. It has the added librication of the graphic style rope which allows you to get it so tight it's virtually dripless. I always take my boat on a higher rpm run after I adjust shaft packing to feel the shaft/box for heat. It stays as cool as anything. If I needded a new box I would probably step up to a PSS. |
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Posted: March-29-2013 at 10:41pm |
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Carey,
Do you have the Lasdrop plumbed correctly? It looks like the injection port on the seal is hooked up to the through hull pick up. I always thought you want to be on the pressure side of the engine cooling system so water flows through the seal to the lake. With the injection port hooked to the suction side, you will be drawing water from the lake. |
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Good eye Pete!
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Are there any other threads on this topic? I am also considering installing the PSS system on my 1985 Nautique. Anyone have any install headaches on this? I was told the coupler is pressed on and can be a bit of a challenge to get off and back on.
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Posted: June-10-2016 at 4:36pm |
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Shaft coupler is an interference fit. It doesn't simply un-bolt. I don't see the benefit of the PSS.
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I have the OJ drip less on both my '85 and '95.
Love them no fuss no mess no water dripping into my bilge no adjustments to make. |
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I haven't adjusted my WAX packing in over 10 years. The boat gets wet due to skiers in and out. A little shaft drip is literally a drop in the bucket. The added cost alone is hard to swallow.
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I agree with HW though, I would never consider it as an upgrade.
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nicely done up there ^
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What happens when the hose gets clogged? You ruin your shaft. I would not mess with it.
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They say saw palmetto pills can help that...... |
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My only experience with the Dripness seals are whatever Supra used in the late '80's.
And, Oh how they luvd to drip. With two boats in rental service, they were soon replaced with the brass stuffing boxes. |
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Posted: June-10-2016 at 9:32pm |
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Jeremy,
I need to ask you why?? Do you feel it's an upgrade or do you just want extra bling on the boat? I'm with others above that really don't feel they are worth installing. |
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I have the californiamarine.com Catalina Performance Parts shaft log stuffing box. Seems to be doing what it's supposed to do.
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Since my SN is a direct drive and the drive shaft seal assembly is very easy to get to, I can't see the value -- for me anyway. Yes, my seal drips a little, but we are in the boat for skiing and boarding. Wet people come in and out and bring in much more water than a few packing drips. The gland nut re-tightening process is very easy, so I really don't consider an upgrade.
Now, if I ever have to change out my shaft or gland nut hardware, I may reconsider... JQ |
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I think JQ has got it right on the nose. The alignment and access to the packing gland/ shaft in an older V-drive are rife with issues. Needed to change packing in my old Excel - YUCK. Glad the Barefoot Excel's PO swapped out the original style for a dripless.
Now his re-wiring is another issue............. |
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It's not at all about the bling for me, My boat is used by other family members at our cabin and even some of my younger nephews. I enjoy the peace of mind sometimes that things like a dripless seal can bring me. When things go wrong on my boat everyone comes to me to fix it.. So if I can do anything preventative now and maybe even add a lil extra value at the time of selling this boat I have no problem doing it. I have put alot elbow grease into this boat over the last ten years, id just like to keep it going with less issues down the road. Granted I have never had an issue with my current stock drip system, I also like my bilge and engine compartment clean and the dripping water and my most recent discovery a cracked muffler that is dripping into my bilge area can drive my OCD crazy. I ordered brand new mufflers I just hope they sound as good as my originals. |
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