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john b
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My Mustang has a hole for a sight gauge. It was covered by installing the trim ring and plexi window, but the window had adhesive backed aluminum tape applied so you couldn't see through it. The light to see the nonexistent gauge was in place and working. You would only know that if you removed the fiberglass rear seat and turned the lights on.
My 69 SS however had this arrangement. It also had dual water pick ups (is that the right word?) Does that mean that the SS boats were not drilled for a gauge and the regular ones were? or does it mean that 70s were drilled and 69s weren't? Does it mean that there is no plan or pattern? |
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TRBenj
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Gary, I can't say that I've ever seen another 1st gen stang without a fuel sight glass besides yours- including several that have what appear to be factory electronic fuel gauges. We'll need to do through some pictures to see if HM's were handled any differently, as I haven't had a chance to closely inspect as many of tees as I would like. Reid doesn't have any pre-71 stang HM's as far as I know. We should dig up Vondys thread and ask JohnB what his boats have/had. I believe I see a sight glass on this one:
http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=200&sort=&pagenum=7 Cc production techniques must have been a little sloppy back then. There are enough engine specific differences to think that they'd probably need to know what a hull was eventually destined to have- things like exhaust outlet size and location (on the engine end) varied between the HM, chryslers and Interceptors. Still, some details are common regardless of the engine, like the dual pickups that Bruce mentioned (all of my 67-71 boats have them regardless of engine). I'm guessing fuel sight glasses probably were handled the same. Not sure why that would have been at all related to engine option anyways, as it would seemingly be an unrelated option? |
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8122pbrainard
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Bruce, I noticed the same with John's stang. I was going to ask about it but figured like you did that CC installed them no matter what engine went into the hull. |
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Riley
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It also has the through hulls for a Chrysler. The engine choice may have been an option which was chosen later. The 68 Cuda we had, had the same through hulls for a Chrysler and it had an Interceptor in it, so it had that same useless loop tying the 2 inlets that were not needed together.
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Gary S
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Rear deck has a fuel gauge sight glass. In the Holman Moody owners manual it says the engine is supplied with the wiring harness and gauges. So in my thinking if a HM was known to be going in why drill the hole. I can't remember off hand what boat Reid had at Tavares with a HM but I do know mine was the only one there with no sight glass. Art thought by the invoice that my boat was sold to someone the Meloons knew,so I wonder if it was ordered rather than just built
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8122pbrainard
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Gary, I can't see what you are talking about ether? |
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TRBenj
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I'm not following you Gary... Care to enlighten us on what you see? |
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Gary S
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Either someone got drill happy or that boat didn't start out intended for a HM, another case of use what you can get
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TRBenj
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I agree, all the details I see say it's a late 69 or 70. Most likely a late 69 per the hull number, it falls between 2 I've confirmed are a 69 (built 2/69) and a 70 (built 8/69). Scoop placement, dash style, motorbox are the other big clues, but the colored upholstery and panels are consistent with other mustangs of this era that I have seen.
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john b
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This is Mustang M2621. It is probably a 69 or 70. I was told that this is the original upholstery on the front seats. The back seat has been reupholstered. It used to be the Skiing Skeeters tow when it was new. It is in the year range when Tim said they changed over to a wider selection of fabrics. It appears to be pretty much original sans wheel, and the color of the upholstery looks close. I have only seen it on the water a couple of times in the 12-13 years I have been on the chain. It is driven by old people like me, no surprise.
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TRBenj
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Possible but I wouldn't bet on it. It seems cc didn't start mixing in vinyl colors until late 69 or 70 (at least on the mustang, of which I am most familiar). Seats and side panels were white or cream prior to that. The deep texture of the vinyl looks more like 70's vintage to me- which would be the same vintage as your replacement seat frames. I'd guess that maybe the side panels and seats were reupholstered when the boat was ~10 years old.
Of course, cc wasn't 100% consistent back then, so anything is possible! |
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dochockey
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This was still tacked to the back of one of side panels what are the chances this is the original color? |
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TRBenj
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Another reason to turn that observer seat around the way it's supposed to be! The pylon is a sturdier grab handle too. |
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Gary S
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I didn't ask how many wheels they had John
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john b
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The wheel doesn't work either Gary.
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Gary S
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Ken Meloon at the Taveres show was telling me how many halfs they used to go thru,I'm guessing the passenger is using it for a handle,while the driver used the wheel?
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john b
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I can set you up with another plastic port side pane. Sorry. See if they can weld up your frame. If all else fails get back to me sometime. I will know a lot more when I get mine assembled.
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dochockey
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Oh boy now your putting me to the test Uh the plastic was on the port side, the glass was on the starboard side I hope your going to Tell me you have the one I need ? And your willing to part with it. |
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8122pbrainard
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It's sure worth a try but, some alloys can't be welded. You won't know until the welder tries to develop the weld puddle. |
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john b
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Which side of your windshield is plastic, port or starboard? I believe the mounting tab on the windshield could be welded back on.
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Riley
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Kind of weird why the windshield frame broke where it attaches to the deck. We have a plastic panel in our Classic windshield. It was a challenge to put it together due to the plastic being slightly thicker than the glass. The color of the motor box is nice!
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TRBenj
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Yes, scoops are original, since I posted last year about not recognizing those rounded scoops, I've encountered a few 67 and early 68 boats with them.
Not sure what we're looking at in the "how do I fix this" pic? Motorbox looks good! |
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john b
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The 69 SS Mustang I sacrificed had one glass pane and one plastic too The vinyl windshield deck channel is available Let me know if you can't read the numbers. Love your project!
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dochockey
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Tim looks like these are original |
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dochockey
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Took the windshield off today and one side was plastic and the other glass?
Is the white molding still available somewhere? How would one fix this? |
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TRBenj
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There is no "decoding" the serial number, they were just sequential (with some exceptions). Art should be able to pull the build sheet on it and confirm the date.
It's pretty common for registrations to list the year incorrectly, you see it all the time. Apparently the DMV is not the authority on year to year changes at Correct Craft. A '69 would have had different seats, light, dash, scoops (style, placement, number), etc, as noted earlier in the thread. |
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Gary S
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In the end I used the same 3m compounds and pads that we use on the hull. Cleaned up really well.
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I don't have the piece that is behind the motor. Don't know it thereever was one.
The carpet was tacked with staples, I'm hoping it will clean up |
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