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Gary S
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Gary S
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Yes it is Kirk it matches the floor and has ply glassed in on the back side to give it strength
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dochockey
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Gary is the toe piece fiberglass ? I removed a piece of wood that was carpet wrapped |
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1989 Teal Ski Nautique
1967 Mustang Harris Float Sunfish |
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Gary S
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Looks like someone made the battery box hole bigger too, the edges are cut at 90 compaired to a radius. I have some floor pictures Kirk but will get them later,I can't get into photobucket for some reason and yes it goes quite a way back. Do you have the toe board? I have a decent one if you need it.
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dochockey
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It's a frozen mouse nest.
It's funny you say it's older cuz there were about 6 or so old registrations in the side panel and all saying 69. How does one decipher the serial #s Did the fiber glass floor go all the way back ? |
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1989 Teal Ski Nautique
1967 Mustang Harris Float Sunfish |
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TRBenj
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That's the hull number you're looking for. It's definitely not a '69 though. The number would seem to reinforce my previous guess.
I have a number of 68-70 mustang id numbers collected, the earliest verified is in the late 2200's and was a '68 built in sept of 67. I'd say yours is a late 67 or very early 68 based on the id and other trim details I see. What's in the battery box? |
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dochockey
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M 2198 is what the tag says. Is this what art needs to look up the invoice ? I found some old registrations it says she is a 69 . |
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1989 Teal Ski Nautique
1967 Mustang Harris Float Sunfish |
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dochockey
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Sorry forgot to rotate the photo
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1989 Teal Ski Nautique
1967 Mustang Harris Float Sunfish |
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dochockey
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I had some time today to tinker and this is what I found ! |
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1989 Teal Ski Nautique
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Gary S
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I have just seen in your first pic,your boot stripe is the same as mine. I have never noticed any others that are the same, most seem to continue all the way to the front. Did Steve meet you in town and blindfold you for the ride out to the ranch? If you ever decide you need a new axle check with TimB he has a source and might have one for the springs too. I had trouble with the seal area on mine so I bought one and it fit fine. As you will find out when you eventually work on yours running gear parts are odd sizes compared to others.
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dochockey
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Yes Gary I did, I just squeaked by that snow storm. The trailer is awesome.
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Gary S
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So Kirk did you end up going to Sterling to pick the trailer up? Looks like your the rebuild thread to get us thru the winter!
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dochockey
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Well a lot has happened since I picked her up, I had to put things on the back burner. She came came with a non cc trailer, with the help of (62wood) I was able to get a period correct trailer.
So I had to switch trailers and where I would normally drop it in the water the water was frozen. I took it to my local marina and I used their hoist. With new tires and recent bearings I dragged it to it's new home. Plans are to tear it down new stringers, repair the gel as needed, and a engine overhaul |
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1989 Teal Ski Nautique
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john b
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Hmmm, I'm not sure about the H/M panel having a cut out for the exhausts. Here is the one from my 70. |
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1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox"
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Gary S
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Jim they only used wood screws real crude. For some reason this wood one was used where normally 'glass pans were used. I have seen the exact wood frame used in wood Correct Crafts,not sure why mine has one.
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MartyMabe
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Kirk,
Are you done re-storing your 89 yet? Hey- What turned or helped your decision in getting the Mustang? Nice Find by the way! |
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Hussler
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Haha didnt see that, nice that he still has the part. I was talking about the seat base, where the cross members mount to the front board covered in vinyl. |
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Gary S
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He has the spacer Jim it's just put together wrong,the PO has it on first so it's down at the rudder end! As to the mounting are you refering to the seat back? There is a screw mounted in the center of the boat in the gunnel face. Then there is a keyhole plate mounted to the seat back like the upper left of the pic below. The back just hangs on that. The seat bottom frame screws down to the floor thru the 1 x 1/2 cross piece at the rear bottom then 2 horizontal screws go thru the larger dark colored cross pieces into the bottom of the seat back pulling it tight to the bottom framework. The seat bottom just sits there so you can lift it up and use the framework for storage |
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TRBenj
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Good visuals, Gary. Scoop placement and light style are 2 differences between '68 and '69- the others I can think of are the gauge cluster and seats.
Dont forget that the pan had to be notched for all 3" exhaust boats, not just the H-M's. Chryslers got the larger outlets as well. |
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Hussler
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Sorry to hijack but Gary, how is the base plywood of that seat attached to the fascia? I was thinking of using aluminukm angle and through bolting.
To the OP, you are missing the spacer in between your rudder and pitman arm. Just thought i would point that out |
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Gary S
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Good older picture of how my back panel is in. Panel has different
cutouts for 3" Holman Moody exhaust. This panel was from a standard exhaust boat and was cut out to match an original but bad shape one from John b's HM SS |
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Gary S
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Serial number location first one is below oil cooler on this one
All are in front of rear motor mount |
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Gary S
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Since I happen to have both years here at this time,I took some
pictures of the differences between 68 and 69 |
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TRBenj
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Bruce, good catch- yes those panels were as wide as the exhaust outlets. So the floor pan is probably long gone.
CB, there is no fin on this boat that I can see- CC never put them on first gen Mustangs. I believe the first time they were added to the 16' boats was in 1976 when the Ski Tique came out. What youre probably seeing is the shark-fin shaped Airguide speedo pick up. |
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Riley
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Weren't the panels in the floor pans wider behind the motor box than what is showing?
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cbdenco
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Very nice! Congrats! The fiberglass really appears to be in great shape! I notice your fresh water pick up is much further aft on the hull compared to my American Skier. Also I'm wondering how much the fin adds to handling? Mine doesn't have one
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TRBenj
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The engine cover would have been gelcoated. It may have been white, cream or matched the boat (yucatan). It looks like someone attempted to "modernize" the boat by adding carpet and redoing the interior in brown. CC started covering all motorboxes in vinyl around '77 or '78. I think the gelcoat boxes are way cooler though!
Ripping that carpet out and pulling the vinyl off the motorbox would be the first things on my list- just to satisfy my curiousity! If youre missing that removable panel in the back, then that will be tough to find- but it will be interesting to see if the rest of the floor pain is intact. |
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dochockey
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The engine cover usually matched the seat color ? I wounder why they covered it ?
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dochockey
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I took that number off the bill of sale. The boat is at my dads an hour away.
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TRBenj
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Those seats are from the mid 70's... its not uncommon to see them in a boat of that era, as the originals sat on plywood frames that were prone to rot. The vast majority of interiors that I have seen from '67-69 were monotone cream (all seats and side panels). It wasnt until late '69 or '70 that they started mixing in some color.
Gary is right about the rudder- lillipad would have been original. The 27A was first used in '70 and is a slight performance upgrade (though you'd have to get the boat above 50 to notice). Might want to trim the port flush with the bottom of the boat though. Original pylon and you have the back seat base, nice! Most '67's Ive seen were still using the stepped pylon like this one... my bet is that the boat is a '68. |
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