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This was still tacked to the back of one of side panels what are the chances this is the original color?
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Possible but I wouldn't bet on it. It seems cc didn't start mixing in vinyl colors until late 69 or 70 (at least on the mustang, of which I am most familiar). Seats and side panels were white or cream prior to that. The deep texture of the vinyl looks more like 70's vintage to me- which would be the same vintage as your replacement seat frames. I'd guess that maybe the side panels and seats were reupholstered when the boat was ~10 years old.

Of course, cc wasn't 100% consistent back then, so anything is possible!
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This is Mustang M2621. It is probably a 69 or 70. I was told that this is the original upholstery on the front seats. The back seat has been reupholstered. It used to be the Skiing Skeeters tow when it was new. It is in the year range when Tim said they changed over to a wider selection of fabrics. It appears to be pretty much original sans wheel, and the color of the upholstery looks close. I have only seen it on the water a couple of times in the 12-13 years I have been on the chain. It is driven by old people like me, no surprise.

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I agree, all the details I see say it's a late 69 or 70. Most likely a late 69 per the hull number, it falls between 2 I've confirmed are a 69 (built 2/69) and a 70 (built 8/69). Scoop placement, dash style, motorbox are the other big clues, but the colored upholstery and panels are consistent with other mustangs of this era that I have seen.
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Either someone got drill happy or that boat didn't start out intended for a HM, another case of use what you can get
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Either someone got drill happy or that boat didn't start out intended for a HM, another case of use what you can get

I'm not following you Gary... Care to enlighten us on what you see?
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Either someone got drill happy or that boat didn't start out intended for a HM, another case of use what you can get

I'm not following you Gary... Care to enlighten us on what you see?

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I can't see what you are talking about ether?


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Rear deck has a fuel gauge sight glass. In the Holman Moody owners manual it says the engine is supplied with the wiring harness and gauges. So in my thinking if a HM was known to be going in why drill the hole. I can't remember off hand what boat Reid had at Tavares with a HM but I do know mine was the only one there with no sight glass. Art thought by the invoice that my boat was sold to someone the Meloons knew,so I wonder if it was ordered rather than just built
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It also has the through hulls for a Chrysler. The engine choice may have been an option which was chosen later. The 68 Cuda we had, had the same through hulls for a Chrysler and it had an Interceptor in it, so it had that same useless loop tying the 2 inlets that were not needed together.
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It also has the through hulls for a Chrysler. The engine choice may have been an option which was chosen later. The 68 Cuda we had, had the same through hulls for a Chrysler and it had an Interceptor in it, so it had that same useless loop tying the 2 inlets that were not needed together.

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I noticed the same with John's stang. I was going to ask about it but figured like you did that CC installed them no matter what engine went into the hull.


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Gary, I can't say that I've ever seen another 1st gen stang without a fuel sight glass besides yours- including several that have what appear to be factory electronic fuel gauges. We'll need to do through some pictures to see if HM's were handled any differently, as I haven't had a chance to closely inspect as many of tees as I would like. Reid doesn't have any pre-71 stang HM's as far as I know. We should dig up Vondys thread and ask JohnB what his boats have/had. I believe I see a sight glass on this one:

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Cc production techniques must have been a little sloppy back then. There are enough engine specific differences to think that they'd probably need to know what a hull was eventually destined to have- things like exhaust outlet size and location (on the engine end) varied between the HM, chryslers and Interceptors. Still, some details are common regardless of the engine, like the dual pickups that Bruce mentioned (all of my 67-71 boats have them regardless of engine). I'm guessing fuel sight glasses probably were handled the same. Not sure why that would have been at all related to engine option anyways, as it would seemingly be an unrelated option?
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My Mustang has a hole for a sight gauge. It was covered by installing the trim ring and plexi window, but the window had adhesive backed aluminum tape applied so you couldn't see through it. The light to see the nonexistent gauge was in place and working. You would only know that if you removed the fiberglass rear seat and turned the lights on.
My 69 SS however had this arrangement. It also had dual water pick ups (is that the right word?) Does that mean that the SS boats were not drilled for a gauge and the regular ones were? or does it mean that 70s were drilled and 69s weren't? Does it mean that there is no plan or pattern?
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I like those transoms without the I/O pads. I didn't realize they were on the later models.

John, do you still have that glove box and if so, would you sell it?
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Sorry Bruce, I sold the glove box and everything else I didn't need. I believe it was the same one that was in my Mark Twain. It is not unique to CC and was a fairly common accessory used by other manufacturers. You may find one on eBay.
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Bruce I think Tim has reason to believe that the boats with the transom pads are faster,I know Marshall's fits that description! My boat had the light under the deck too,at the time I could not figure it out. It also has the dual pickup's. John what was the serial number on your SS again please. Should have Art look it up too.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

I like those transoms without the I/O pads. I didn't realize they were on the later models.

Bruce, I believe both transom were used right to the very end of the 1gen Mustangs run. Most of ours have the pad but not all. I like the look of the pad better but that's probably because it's what I always remember seeing. If my theory is correct, the padded hulls are faster!
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Ha, I thought Marshall's boat was fast because it had a hot 340 in it!

Is there more hook in the hulls without the transom pads?
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The hot 340 certainly helps! But marshall's (padded) hull needed no changes in response to more power in order to run fast and safe. Reid's baby blue (no pad) needed all the hook ground out of it to run similar speeds with similar power. Olive oyle (pad) ran fast with stock power, as does my '70 (pad). Sages (no pad) wouldn't break 50 with a full top end upgrade, and I don't think royal flush (no pad) did either. The latter runs as bow low as any mustang I've seen- the trick wake was puny!

So yes, my theory is that there were multiple mustang molds (easily identified by the pad) and the padded one had less hook.
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

John what was the serial number on your SS again please. Should have Art look it up too.

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Things have been moving very slow but Art found my invoice
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I forget if the build sheet denotes the model year... June would put you right near the time they switched. If I had to guess id say it's one of the latest 67's as opposed to an early 68.
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They don't ,remember CC told me back in 88 that mine was a 68 because it was built 12-68. Was not until you and Reid looked at it and saw the vents that it is a 69.
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I'm by no means a motor head but my plan of attack is the engine first. Ive been slowly tearing it apart .



It looks like there is a crack that was fixed ?
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