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Got the Starboard Gate Made Gonna test her out tonight!
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Damn, thats a lot of ballast for that boat. I had about 2000#s in my SAN (stock tanks+bags) and it was pretty sketchy to drive while still being close to max capacity.

Cool project but that weight looks downright dangerous. Stay safe.

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Working on plans for the surf gate... starting with the hinge plate.

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Originally posted by TheRinger TheRinger wrote:

Nice looking port side wave for sure!   I've been having a hell of a time getting the wave to clean up on that side for regular foot riders, speeding up to about 11mph (I ride at 9 for goofy side and it is nearly perfectly clean) helps but by then the wave size really starts to dissipate,, tried a little steeper angle on the gate and that seems to make a bit of a difference too,, If I remember correctly you (thaddeus) had raised your swim platform a bit, did that make a difference? any other tips for getting rid of the wash on the port side wave?


We have been riding between 10.5-11 mph dependent on how many people are along for the ride. With the boat plowing as much as it does there was a lot of drag on the swim deck creating upward pressure on the bottom. It had so much pressure in fact it actually pulled the bottom screw out of the mounting bracket about a 1/4 inch. Which made me decide to raise the deck 3 inches with aluminum I-beam.



I also rearranged the weight in the boat which helped a ton! Here's my current Port Surf Setup
(The 150lbs in the back seat is used if there's only the driver in the boat otherwise we just sit a body back there.)



That's all I've done to surf the port.. Hopefully that helps ya... try using your 2 800lbs bags and that 1 540lbs bag to match the layout I'm running?????
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Nice looking port side wave for sure!   I've been having a hell of a time getting the wave to clean up on that side for regular foot riders, speeding up to about 11mph (I ride at 9 for goofy side and it is nearly perfectly clean) helps but by then the wave size really starts to dissipate,, tried a little steeper angle on the gate and that seems to make a bit of a difference too,, If I remember correctly you (thaddeus) had raised your swim platform a bit, did that make a difference? any other tips for getting rid of the wash on the port side wave?
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ANOTHER VIEW

Gets a shot of the gate in there. Might even be able to take her down flush with the swim deck!!

Here's the link also WakeSurf the 2001 (2)

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Thanks for the link. That's an impressive wake for a 2001!!!
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

I can't view the video, just coming up as a blank box for me. Could you post a link?


UPDATE HD VIDEO NOW

Still low quality. I'll upload 1080p version ASAP
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Originally posted by SNobsessed SNobsessed wrote:

I give in - Where was that camera mounted?

Way cool wake, esp for port side.

BTW, a thick rope is much safer than a ski rope for surfing.


I have a GoPro mounted on a 4ft PCV Pipe in my right hand.

I totally agree, I'll switch to a different rope.
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Nice wave your getting pretty far back! I moved my big bags more forward and am able to ride further out...   Having too much fun haven't messed with a new angle but I did get 2 newbies up 2 nights ago on my short board without much trouble...   Gonna make a better surfgate this winter...   Till then I will try to film some waves
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I can't view the video, just coming up as a blank box for me. Could you post a link?
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I give in - Where was that camera mounted?

Way cool wake, esp for port side.

BTW, a thick rope is much safer than a ski rope for surfing.
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Terrible Quality Video... But this is my set up as of last night with my Aluminum Surfgate.

HD Video to come when I get home....

UPDATED (HD VIDEO NOW)


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'63 - you're absolutely right, that thing will definitely leave some damage as is... I've got a grey pool noodle sliced and fixed to the top of it and slotted tennis balls on the clamp ends,
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Pretty impressive wake for a 2001! Nice work on the design.

I hate to be the guy mentioning safety stuff, but I'd like to see that edge and corner of the aluminum plate covered with something. Maybe cut a slot in some PVC pipe and push it onto the edge. It might seem unlikely but if anyone hit that corner there would be a lot of stitches involved.
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That is awesome! Are you selling them? Would love to buy one if you are!
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finally got some footage of it in action,,, about 1800 lbs including ballast and people, definitely over marked capacity but still felt stable and safe,'89 ski nautique 2001 homebrew surfgate
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Thats essentially a trim tab with an adjustable tab on it, doing about the same thing the volvo tabs do, but the difference i see is the volvo ones are 100% less offensive in my eyes sitting on the transom than any concoction I have seen built, to date.
i'm sure they would require someone to pony up and do some R&D but theres no real evidence saying they won't do what all these other "tabs" do.
I bet either, one large one on either side or two strategically placed smaller ones would attain the same results, and not require such a massive piston setup.
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The Nautique surf system definitely looks pretty sweet, there is a forum out there where an air nautique 220 has been outfit with that type of system using a couple actuators, if I remember correctly he had made up a bunch of 'plates' of different sizes, shapes and depths to see which worked best..   That being said adding trim tabs is a completely different ball game than the d.i.y. style gates most of us have made with materials we had lying around, even Thaddeus' sweet system is pretty much non invasive and doesn't involve any serious modifications to the hull like glassing any extras in. These also allow for plenty of room for experimentation since many 2001 owners have discovered that even fairly slight changes in weighting and setup can make a huge difference on the wake shape,,
just my 2 cents,
great to see all these setups!
p.s. I recently made up a longer gate out of aluminum @ 28" x 12" and found that it made minimal difference over my original 24"x 9" piece,, a slight change in angle had more effect it seemed than the extra length, might try a shorter 20" gate and play with the pitch a bit like motorheads setup this weekend,
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I havent had much of desire to surf behind my boats but i[ve been following this thread a bit because alot of my friends talk about it. I'm surprised noone here has mentioned or tried the low pro style trim tabs. seems like they would do the same as the newer nautique gates are. (the slid out style)
but its would be a complete bolt on system, low profile and from what i can gather it would accomplish the same thing as this design would.


I installed these on a 37 Duffy with my captain a couple years ago and it made a world of difference and they are a nice piece.
We are usually loaded up with 3000# of ice another 600# of bait 500 gals of #2 under the deck and with a 100Gal fuel bladder on the back deck for lack of anyplace else to put it. I could have just said we were heavy but now you get the idea of how heavy. On our steam out she would sit real low in the back and as soon as we installed these tabs (2 per side) we would run them on the way out and the bow would sit lower and we went from 20-21 gallons an hour steam down to 19. point is they work amazing and don't need as much purchase on the hull as a lot of the designs ive seen.
We've run these for 3-4 seasons now and we run them fully extended at 19 knts for 8-10 hours at a time. I wouldBe inclined to mount these to my nautique before i went building some big offensive gate that i had to lug around.(no offense to those who have)

here is a short version of them(ours are the 18" ones)


http://www.volvopenta.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/Penta/Parts%20brochures/QL%20-%20Boat%20Trim%20System%20-%20Eng.pdf
The only thing that is extrememly important when mounting these things is they have to be mounted on a FLAT suface. We glassed in a piece of FRP bolted to some angle iron to keep the surface flat while the epoxy set.
Would like to see someone try a set of these. I bet they work.
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Originally posted by motorheadskier motorheadskier wrote:

Its a 4' I don't know what that breaks down to in cm?   48 inches its pretty short my buddy can't ride it I think he is too heavy.   but I love it.   I am about 170 lbs and I have a couple other friends that ride behind the boat that love it and weigh anywhere from 150 to 180.   


Don't be afraid to go bigger - your board size will be just as important as the size and shape of the wake.

Bigger boards 5' and up will have more surface area, more "float", and generate speed more easily. This makes them a great option for bigger riders and riders who are riding behind a smaller wake. Plus the increased float also makes them a great option for beginners.

Smaller wakesurf boards under 5' are great for advanced riders and lightweight riders. These smaller boards are easier to maneuver and air out of the wave, making them the board of choice for most advanced riders. These boards don't offer as much surface area as bigger boards, so they usually require a larger wave with more push.
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Its a 4' I don't know what that breaks down to in cm?   48 inches its pretty short my buddy can't ride it I think he is too heavy.   but I love it.   I am about 170 lbs and I have a couple other friends that ride behind the boat that love it and weigh anywhere from 150 to 180.   
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Nice job! Those are some pretty tasty waves you guys have going there, lots of room for shredding.

I'm curious, how long is the board you're buddy's riding? Is it 160+ cm ?
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one of my friends shot this a couple weeks ago... you can see how far away you can get
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Last night...

Less people in the boat... smaller wave... still has a good pocket
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Originally posted by xarmypilot xarmypilot wrote:


Judging from the angle of the wake from the transom, it appears to be that the boat was in a left hand turn then turned right. These would be normal conditions where you'd see a bit of a list.



Spot On! I missed that.
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Originally posted by Thaddeus116 Thaddeus116 wrote:

She looks like she's listing quite a bit... Where's the water in relation to the rub rail when you're underway???

get some video up!



Judging from the angle of the wake from the transom, it appears to be that the boat was in a left hand turn then turned right. These would be normal conditions where you'd see a bit of a list.

+1 to the need for video - that'd be helpful to judge the wake size, shape, and angle in relation to the boat's travel.
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I didn't, because it is just a google pic, so I checked back and ding ding ding, we have a winner.

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Larry, any idea where this pic was taken??

Sure looks like right off our beach (Holiday Point) on Candlewood???
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