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Bilkolayne
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Also next weekend I'm going to do the boat interior I don't like carpet because it holds moisture so I am going to bild new floor and then coat it all with resin then I'm going to wind up doing the insides with the plastic bubble like stuff thay sell at Lowes in 4x8 sheets that's my plan
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Bilkolayne
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Got my ski pole all cleaned up looks like new now and got the power wires for all the gauges put together just need to install them tomorrow.... hope to finish most of the wireing tomorrow. We will see. I also am going to pickup some fuel line and try to mabe fire it up for a few seconds see what happens.
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Bilkolayne
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Yea I got that I just was not shore...... I got a ton of wireing done today. I forgot to run the tach wire tho so I got to grab more wire and finish all the gauges..... I got the ingnition and starter all wired up and to the dash. I need to make a bracket to hold my electronic ingnition box and pickup a different set of plug wires due to the distributor cap difference .... my spredbore adaptor came inn today and my fuel gauge. I'm not so happy with the fuel gauge because it dose not match and I'm kinda a stickler when it comes to stuff like that. I also got the ski pole out today so I can clean that up |
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Duane in Indy
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Out of the "S" side of ignition switch to neutral safety switch, out of NSS to "S" side of solenoid. It won't let you energize the solenoid till that switch is made., like HW said Put your VOM on both wires and shift the tranny from F/N/R to check switch. |
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Keep it as original as YOU want it
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Bri892001
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If they're really big, maybe the shift and throttle cables?
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Hollywood
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neutral safety switch? interrupter in the starting circuit so you can't fire it up in gear. |
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Bilkolayne
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Can someone tell me what the two big wires on the right side of the transmission are for?
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Bilkolayne
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I did not get anything done today as I was stuck at work all day so I brought one of the burnt up valve covers to work and was able to clean it up its back to normal now nice and shiny. Nothing a little never dull and a wire brush could not handle. My carb spacer should be inn tomorrow some time. Hope to get the carb all hooked up and some wireing done.
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jbear
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Boy I love when you guys talk like this......don't understand it but love it, john |
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"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
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Bilkolayne
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I know this that's why I put a small shot oil in each cylinder and cranked it over before I did that..... I am a mechanic don't forget that. |
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Duane in Indy
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While you'r at it, throw the starting fluid as far as you can throw it!!!!!!!!!!! Might be OK for diesels but NOT for gas engines.
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Keep it as original as YOU want it
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Bilkolayne
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Lmao but I only ran some wire to a battery really rigid just to fire it up. |
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Hollywood
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wtf it's only 3:30
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Bilkolayne
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Even if it was just for a sec I'm so glad I got to here it fire up today.... I got this wireing down pat now and just need to pickup more wire and connectors I will do that tomorrow sometime.
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Hollywood
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Tim's "no" was for Duane I think, not your post in between them.
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Bilkolayne
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OK so for ******* and giggles I got a fire extinguisher some wire and some ether.... i installed the new distributor and quickly wired up the power supply to it and gave a shot of ether down the old carb and she fired right up. Just for a sec tho..... I just wanted to here it fire
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backfoot100
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Should be good to go. As long as the plug wires are in the proper order, you'll be fine. You asked a question about the intake previously too. As far as I know, all SBC's 262 through 400 can share the same intake. At least up t0 '86 model year. In '87 they went to a different bolt pattern for the center line valve covers. Vortec heads are a different story but yours definitely aren't Vortec's nor the post '87 heads. As long as the intake you want to install has the '86 and older bolt pattern, it should work.. |
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When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.
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Riley
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Jonathan, no one is suggesting you do that. You've confirmed the rotation and that's good enough.
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Bilkolayne
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The guy I bought it from told me that the engine ran and thay where trying to make carb adjustments when it went up in flames. I don't see that to be a reason to check the pistons for proper placement
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Bilkolayne
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We will see what's up when I get it fired up I'm not pulling pistons or rods just to check. So far everything checks out fine.
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TRBenj
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No I think you confirmed what I was thinking... Pistons can be rotated 180 for rotation but rods should not be.
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Bilkolayne
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OK so off topic of what you guys are talking about. I just watched the engine when it rotated by the starter and the flywheel spins clockwise and so dose the rotor butten and the fireing order of the valves are righthand also so there for it is all correct a right hand engine. Dose that ancers your questions.
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Duane in Indy
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Don't know about the "More Knowledgeable" but the locks on the bearing have to face outboard. That puts the bearing in the correct location for the radius of the crank throw. Fords are notorious for having .060 offset wrist pins. On flat tops there are 4 valve reliefs. Just had that conversation with Sealed Power tech guy couple weeks ago. Ford marine engines (with offset pins) have the piston notch to the rear and bearing locks still outboard Did I just confuse things more? |
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Riley
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I was thinking of 79 as well. Dave and I are going over to Jim's Thursday to borrow some equipment. Perhaps Jim can explain it to Dave and Dave can translate it to Tim... I just know he reversed all the pistons and rods when he switched rotations... If Jim knows what he's talking about, I suppose it is even more critical on a RR race engine... |
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Discussions like these remind me of how much I miss @79Nautique, he always made that Rabbit hole very interesting!
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TRBenj
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Thought about it more- rod orientation does matter, bearings are chamfered. Common sense says that the rods should not be spun around based on rotation, but I'll let someone more knowledgable field that question.
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Riley
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Yes. Dave would know better than me if it had been apart prior to. I helped him take it apart, but that was 2 winters ago... Anyway,,,it sounds like there's no mixing up RR and LR engines so the OP should be fine. |
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TRBenj
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I am guessing he means that he'd spin the piston and rod combo around 180deg in order for the offset wrist pin (on the piston) to match the engine rotation. (Rods themselves should not care about rotation). Pistons that don't have offset wrist pins should be installed the normal way (valve reliefs will be in the right spot).
Like I said, PCM wasn't converting engine rotations, the long blocks were coming from the engine manufacturers. I don't think GM would have done that... I am guessing someone else had been inside that 454 and didn't put it back together quite right. Did it still have the original Pcm silver paint on it? |
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Riley
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What he said was the rods had not been reversed on the 454 PCM he has. I don't know if it's been monkeyed with or not. He wasn't blasphamyzing PCM. The only PCMs he's ever seen are the ones we've brought to him. Hollywood, you edited your post...
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