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Originally posted by desertskier desertskier wrote:

I just rewired mine:

see pics about 1/2 way through thread

Sorry about the crappy pics.


Wow, nice clean/neat work
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You have to be just a little more thoughtful with the positive bus bar/block.

With the ground block, you run a new ground wire from the engine block to your new ground bus under the dash. Then just tie all of your ground wires to that.

With the positive side, you just have to make sure you don't corrupt the original switching logic. You don't want to accidentally have something be on all the time.
-The new positive wire replaces or piggybacks on the ignition breaker button
-Then the output side of your ignition breaker button goes to the positive bus
-Then you run wires to the INPUT side of all the other breaker switches, and the INPUT side of the key switch.

If you want to go crazy, you could do a switched positive (purple/ignition) bus bar, that goes from the output side of the key, to the input side or all the gauges etc.
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I just rewired mine:

see pics about 1/2 way through thread

Sorry about the crappy pics.
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Pretty common (more common) for the + side to be beefed up than the grounds in my experience... both help.
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I understand the concept, Pete. I've just not seen anyone replace the hot side of the system before. There's a whole write-up with photos about fixing the grounding side of things for this era SN. But that is all I have seen - black grounding wire. When the hot "red" side was mentioned I though, "What?" and thus asked.
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Originally posted by KRoundy KRoundy wrote:

Originally posted by flyweed flyweed wrote:

a ground block behind your dash, clean the grounds on all the gauges, ignition, etc,


Hot and ground wires? I've heard about doing the grounding wire thing with a ground block, but what do you do with the hot wire?

Kevin,
The terminal blocks are used to eliminate the daisy chaining. Adding the heavier ground and hot wiring eliminates the big voltage drop caused by the light factory wire. Old corroded and loose connections also cause voltage drop.


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Originally posted by flyweed flyweed wrote:

if you haven't done it yet...I HIGHLY suggest pulling the dash, and running heavier gauge hot and ground wires from engine compartment to dash..then install a ground block behind your dash, clean the grounds on all the gauges, ignition, etc, and installed heavier wire. I took the time last season to do this, and my dash cluster couldn't be happier. Everything works as it should.


Hot and ground wires? I've heard about doing the grounding wire thing with a ground block, but what do you do with the hot wire?
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Teleflex steering cable: tel-SS14120 "Amazon" (probably could do a 19' rather than a 20')
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Congrats! Now turn the Bimini around.
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Took the SN out on our first slow/fast water run. with the carb rebuilt, she is running great.

last few items to fix
steering cable
carpet
gas gauge sending unit...

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Flyweed,

Thanks, I read on another post about the grounding block. Sounds like an easy project and may pay dividends.

Thanks Again

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if you haven't done it yet...I HIGHLY suggest pulling the dash, and running heavier gauge hot and ground wires from engine compartment to dash..then install a ground block behind your dash, clean the grounds on all the gauges, ignition, etc, and installed heavier wire. I took the time last season to do this, and my dash cluster couldn't be happier. Everything works as it should.
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Thanks Gary,

I'll give it a go maybe this coming weekend. Work always gets in the way!!!!

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Disconnect the throttle cable at the carb, usually it's a spring loaded snap connector, and see if it is/was the throttle assy holding it open. If it now idles down with it disconnected then that connector can be adjusted on the cable so that it just slides back on without moving the carb linkage. As to the gauges - disconnect the wire on the sender and with the key on powering the gauges touch that wire from the sender to ground and see it the gauge pegs. If it does then it's the sender or its ground. Do not use teflon tape etc to try to seal the sender that can mess with the ground. If that don't work you'll have to dig deeper- i.e. Voltage to the gauge, wire between sender and gauge etc.
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Also forgot to mention, now that she will run, The temp gauge and the fuel level is not working. (senders??? or do you all think this is a wire issue? just curious how long the gauges last?

She idled for more than an hour total Saturday and she is running smooth but at 1200RPM.

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we had a nice weekend, warm enough to work on the boat anyway.
Since my last post, and no I have not changes the steering cable yet. (I'll put it on a trailer to do that work).

I finally picked up my new exhaust manifold gaskets and put them on,
Rotated the impeller pump (thanks for all the other posts in general topic that helped me right my wrong.

since I'm sharing a battery with my other boat, back and forth some times I would not get the motor to fire, not even with a little gas persuasion :-). There is a small white 14 gauge wire with my positive terminal cable. this wire had a loop on it and sometimes the motor would fire sometimes nothing. while replacing the battery, I broke off the end loop of the white wire (very corroded... replaced the loop and reattached to the battery terminal. for kicks I hit the ignition and the motor fired up without spiking the carb. ran it for about 10 minutes and shut it off, restarted and the same thing... now she will start and run with the key alone-- all good there. She runs cool, and I can throttle up slowly up to 4k without a stall. quick throttle will stall the motor.

New issue, idles at 1200 RPM and I cannot seem to slow her down, is this just a sign that it needs a rebuild or do you think the throttle cable needs an adjustment?

I took it for a ride in the bay and aside from a very tight steering wheel, it just idles way to fast to maneuver the boat..

fixed list:
freed the stuck motor
starter
impeller
fuel pump
exhaust manifold gaskets
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So what Gary is saying is buy a new steering cable. That is the only way to fix it.
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No rust involved. I have cut open 3 now. The 69 had sheath damage and would freeze in the winter so I changed it, it was the original with no other problems. The 95 went bad at 19 years , took both hands to turn, lube inside was dried out and gummy. Third was another inboards that was about 22 years old, same issue and cause as the 95.
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A spark of hope, the motor is rolling over a little easier now after the new starter and a little help. The fuel pump is bad (no surprise there,) I picked up a carb rebuild kit. A little starting fluid down the carb and the motor roared to life for about 4 seconds... :-) I think the worst is behind me now. Lots of smoke to be expected as I loaded the cylinders with tranny fluid and MMO.
While I need way more time to work on this , might as well ask the question now. The steering is really tight, any input would be helpful, Does anyone off the top of mind know the different adjustment points where I may have RUST issue with the cable? at the wheel, in the back, are there any other points mid craft that may be a culprit?

thanks All.

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Dan - I'm not intimidated, just have not had the time. This winter will provide the time (I hope). Curious to know what type of grounding block you used? I've pulled off my dashboard plenty of times so there is no fear in the job, but I'd like to stand on the shoulders of giants like yourself who have done the job before and can tell me what worked for you.

Thanks!
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I'd be willing to put money on it, that MOST of your electrical issues will be due to poor grounding, and inadequate gauge wire for both Hot and Ground wires. Do yourself a HUGE favor, take the time, pull your dash off, install a new grounding block behind it, run a new heavy gauge ground and hot wire from the engine up to the dash...and then ground ALL of your gauges and instruments to the new grounding block.   I was freaked out with the task, when I opened my dash, but slowly went one by one, and redid everything, and I have a perfectly functioning dash now because of it.   Good luck
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Also - next thing to work on is removing all the old graphics on the side. One side says, "Ski Nautiqul" because the upper portion of the "E" is missing. I need to get those off, remove or repair some scratches in the gelcote, and then install new graphics.

And I can't get the speed pickup to work on the Perfect Pass.

And I can't get the depth finder to work properly.

And I need to see why my fuel gauge still isn't working 100%.

And I want to do the 1993 Dashboard Grounding upgrade.

And.....
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I've solved that transmission leak problem. Art helped walk me through it. It's had two summers of leak-free use now, so I think I licked it.

I can't control what my family has been doing with the boat in Montana (I live in WA state). I keep saying things to my dad like, "Why don't you teach them to ski?" But since I'm not there I just keep trying with suggestions. My nephew learned to wakeboard a few years ago and has been getting better. His little sister is 12 or 13 now, so it is really time for her to do something besides tube too! Every year when I get the boat they try to give me that tube and I say, "No, you can keep it here, thanks." I own zero tubes, Pete!!!
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Nice, boats, Thanks Guys...

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recognize the place???

Sure am, looks like we have a lot of SN's in the neigborhood.
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No trans. leak in mine..and she has almost 1800 hours on it.
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Welcome to the forum! Glad you found us. I too have a 1993 SN, 351W, with the 1;1 transmission. I would say they were anything BUT a bare bones SN. I've put in about a years worth of "work" on my boat to get it to where it is today. They are great boats. Here are a few pics of my 93. The first one is the day we picked it up...worn,scratched faded gelcoat, inside was tired as well.   Last two pics AFTER I put a TON of "arm work" into the gel coat, and interior. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.





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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Kevin,
Now to get to that pesky trans leak.

We should figure out who was building trans in 1993. I have seen numerous posts, videos, etc. where the leak is on an original trans with a bad gasket install. My 93 has 700 hours and leaks; but, I'm not ready to tear into it. - Fred
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Flyfish, are you in Discovery Bay? Photo of boat in water appears to be DB.

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