Velvet dip stick

Glad it worked out for ya'

It's really straightforward and the oil hose should last a long long time

It's "the return of the velvet" dipstick or maybe "the velvet dipstick rides again" or whatever

Back early in this thread there was the KenO homegrown dipstick complete with some comments and now I'm back with a much simpler, more original looking version that's really pretty easy for the average backyard hack like me to make.

In the pictures you'll see a Dremel with a little cutoff wheel. I used that to daintily cut the flat blade off of the threaded portion of the dipstick. If you're careful you'll end up with threads that will still work and there will be a flat spot on the threaded area where the blade was.

Then you unscrew the small round threaded plate that resembles a really short T nut

Then remove the rubber piece and take a piece of oil hose cut to the length I mentioned earlier in the thread ( 1/2 inch oil cooler hose with an OD of about 3/4 of an inch. I cut it about 7/8 inch long., slide it on the shaft, screw the plate back on and do a couple of little welds and you're done.

On the outside it's perfectly original looking and seals just fine

Pretty cheap too compared to the B/W replacement if you have a welder or a friend with one and one of those indispensable little Dremel tools.

Even cheaper than an expandable rubber plug

Some Borg Warners have a slightly smaller ID pipe that the dipstick slides into so make sure whatever hose you use slides in and can be tightened up before the welding job.


If I was a neater welder, I'd take it to an ACBS show and enter it into the dipstick competition   

David does have a point Pete. Whether it's religion,politics or ACBS you always have your zealots. Years ago I was at an MG meet and was talking to a young woman who was so excited that she had just bought one. Some guy then proceeded to tell her that her radio antenna was in the wrong spot to the point she was almost in tears. They were dealer installed. It has forever changed my view on any organized shows and your not helping

DVskier wrote: Other than Pete who really cares what the ACBS thinks? It seems to me like Pete has. Museum and he is the curator. These boats are meant to be used and enjoyed not stored in perpetuaty. When you're putting less than 10 hours per year on a boat it's ridiculous but given the desire to live in the great white north somewhat understandable.

David,
There are over 11,000 people that do care about the ACBS. Yes, not too many here on CCfan but there are others like Alan who, like myself appreciate the organization. All of the members boats are not what you may consider show quality and are daily drivers or like myself have both. As an example, I really wouldn't consider placing my Tique in a judged show. That is my daily driver and is used as such. You are correct that, I don't get the hours in on it like some do in the southern states. Have you ever heard of the state with 10,000 lakes? How about the Three Lakes/Eagle River chain I'm on. It happens to be the worlds largest inland chain of lakes. Lots of water for boating!! FYI, there is a ACBS class for boats built up to 1995 and they do not have to be made of wood.

Duane in Indy wrote: Who really gives a rats @ss what they are if they don't leak in this low pressure situation?? Is an ACBS judge going to deduct points?? How would they determine what was original and how could they tell the angle?? If they had any common sense then they would not even be concerned. Same as another on here should be --unconcerned. Gosh I hope Spring shows up early this year.

Duane,
Get over the ACBS issue. They are a great organization that you obviously love to repeatedly slam. Why? What do you really have against them?

'Bout time you showed up again Duane

Just trying to keep Pete's bum dope under control. You know how that can be.

8122pbrainard wrote: jterr wrote:    I went to Lowes and found what I think is the same brass fittings, John, I highly doubt the Lowes fitting is correct. What you most likely got was a 45 degree flare fitting typically used on soft copper pipe for low pressure. JIC fittings or 37 degree and meant for high pressure. McMaster has them.

Well, this statement right here might be a good one to explain, since the transmission came with 45 degree SAE fittings and matching hose.

Do you remember saying that you never looked at the fittings on your transmission?

I guess you just assumed they would use 37 degree JIC fittings without really knowing what you were talking about

And the mismatched fittings test was to see what would happen if you screwed the PCM hose on to a JIC fitting.

8122pbrainard wrote: KENO wrote: It was the same hose from a B/W transmisssion cooler with a PCM part number. on it. Since you used the same hose on both fittings, the test is irrelevant. Is the female fitting on the hose a 45 or a 37? Since you got more contact area on the 45 male fitting, I'd say the hose end was also a 45. Only a back yard hack would mismatch fittings!

You're the one questioning the hose, you figure it out

And explain the irrelevant test while you're at it

Let's go back in the thread and see who started saying that the fittings were mismatched from the factory..........somebody named YOU.   

It was the same hose from a B/W transmisssion cooler with a PCM part number. on it.

Screwed that hose on to each fitting and tested. Both fittings were brand new

Used a little prussian blue to see how they were seating and they both seated pretty well but in slightly different spots on the taper.

It seems to be your concern that you think PCM or B/W or whoever used mismatched fittings like you said earlier.

You really should remove your hoses and fittings that have lasted so many years with no leaks and replace them all with 37 degree JIC fittings and new hoses to go with them just to satisfy yourself.   

I'll stick with the original stuff.

Kinda ironic, me telling "Mr Original" that I'll stick with the original parts.

Gary S wrote: Still cold out I see

4 pages of good reading....nuthin' good on the tv so this filled a little time.



john

jterr wrote: 8122pbrainard wrote: John, You'll need to purchase a 3/8" pipe tape and make one yourself. With the tap, it's possible you could even clean up the threads on the old one. I thought of that , but can't find a thread fixer... Maybe Harbor Freight

Maybe the same store you bought the fitting at.

Most any hardware store should have the right tap to clean those threads up.

And.............if you screw it up you can get that bushing at the link below. It's fairly expensive but tthat's probably because it's threaded on both ends. One end for the external fitting and the other for the return pipe

link

jterr wrote: For ones that don't understand any of this, like me-

And for a comparison of a JIC 37 degree fitting on the left and a SAE 45 degree fitting on the right here's a picture. You can see the different tapers pretty easily

8122pbrainard wrote: John, You'll need to purchase a 3/8" pipe tape and make one yourself. With the tap, it's possible you could even clean up the threads on the old one.

I thought of that , but can't find a thread fixer...


Maybe Harbor Freight

After going all over town searching for above parts, I did get the 90 degree , but found out I messed up the threads on this

and can't find one with threads all the way through .
Suggestions
JT

Duane in Indy wrote:    it kinda looks like it only sealed up on the end of the angle. That leads me to think that in fact it was two different angles. Maybe enough torque and it seals up? Not the right thing to do but "maybe" it would work??   Don't jump on me to say it wont work, just my guess as to what may have happened.

Duane,
Good eyes. Yes, to me it does look like they mixed up the 45's and 37's! Now Timmy boy wants me to call PCM and B/W but, who actually installs the trans and cooler? Is the engine marinizer buying the trans, fitting it on the engine and then sending it to the boat manufacturer? Or, is the boat manufacturer buying the engine and trans and combining the two? Considering that the paint matches, I'd be inclined to say it's the marinizer but does anyone know for sure?

John,
When you get to your hose shop, make sure you ask some questions regarding the 45's vs: the 37's and combining the two at one assembly.