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KENO
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Clear as dirty transmission fluid
How about a picture of the fitting with nothing else hooked to it? I could probably give you a B/W part number but would rather see what you're talking about to get it right |
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jterr
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No this is on the outside of trans, with the tube on it that holds the screen on the inside of tranny. Hope that make better sense. I went back and redid previous post to make it clearer... |
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jterr
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I'm sure I can get hydraulic lines in town ,but that fitting with the tube in it for the filter not sure.
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KENO
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I know I ain't too smart at times but I'm wonderin' how a fitting that is always submerged in oil got so rusty that you couldn't fit it over the tube?
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KENO
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Go to the link and it'll tell you length of each hose and where you can get them. I'm sure there are other places that are cheaper if you do some looking They might have the fitting or you could try ebasicpower.com link Or you could go to Pete's plumbing department at Home Depot and probably find the fitting. It's just a pipe threaded reducing bushing |
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jterr
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Where can I find that hose and fittings in picture? That fitting is rusted pretty bad and I can't get it to thread back down into the tranny, as it is binded up at the top of elbow.
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Duane in Indy
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Told ya so |
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Keep it as original as YOU want it
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jterr
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Back to the tranny , I took this out , it is just a metal tube no screen.
Is the correct part to drain and check? If so I saw no debris in the fluid although ( drained it though a paper towel filter) it looked a little dark. That being the case might just keep as is and replace fluid and see how it runs once I get boat back. |
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Gary S
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Well theoretically a one blade prop will “work” . What you need to ask what prop would be best for my boat and my use.
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jterr
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Was wondering if the 4 blade will work on the 83 |
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75 Tique
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Pete, I am guessing by context and how he said it, he wasnt braking for a nice gentle stop while idling into the dock. I get the sense it was a pretty quick 35 to 0 in 15 feet kind of stop. |
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Gary S
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jterr
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Speaking of props, what is the difference in a 3 blade and a 4 blade (I have on my 79)
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jterr
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I think I make out a XX RH 13????
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KENO
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You could pull the plugs and distributor cap and turn the engine from the harmonic balancer bolt. From the front turn it CCW and if the rotor turns CCW you have a reverse rotation engine. That'll be a definite way to tell without having to make any assumptions |
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Duane in Indy
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Guessing you only broke the reverse clutch disc and then it lost mesh. Should not hurt anything else. (other than your pride)
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Keep it as original as YOU want it
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MrMcD
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Pete, going to neutral probably would have been just as quick of a stop but I was rolling at 40mph coming around a blind curve in the river to find 4 boats coming at me head on, one jet boat cut hard right for some reason which put us on a collision course. I went for panic stop, avoided any collisions but scared the poop out of me. We avoided contact by about a foot, no more. My reverse at full throttle came from many years driving jet boats, the technique worked much better in them. Blew the clutches right apart in the velvet drive.
I still had enough forward gear to make it back to the dock without reverse. Fixed it in one day in my garage. They are pretty tough. |
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Duane in Indy
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Take a pic of the prop. Or if it is an ACME prop then post the part # |
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Keep it as original as YOU want it
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jterr
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Speaking of reverse...
Is this a reverse rotation engine. I looked for a tag but I guess when the PO did all his crap to this engine took it off. It is a 351w PCM I'm guessing as it is painted a gold color???? Also while removing the alternator it wasn't hooked to anything , so it is probably wrong also.... |
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8122pbrainard
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But Mark, using reverse on a boat are the brakes. Is there another way to slow a boat? |
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MrMcD
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The tranny is like an automatic. Fiber Plates inside squeezed between Metal plates when you engage. There will be material in the oil. These are very durable tranny's and easy to repair when broken so I would vote for use it after installing new fluid. Run it a while and install new fluid again just to make sure it is clean and ready for long term use.
I made the mistake of using my reverse as a brake in a panic stop and broke mine. the clutch plates fractured. It was not hard or expensive to fix it. I was 20 years younger then so maybe it would be heavier and harder to do now. |
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KENO
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A little light reading from the reference section of CCF in the link
Page 54 has strainer info If you have a 10-17, it's a later version of the 71C and most of the same info applies. You can find later manuals that also cover the 10-17 but not in the reference section of CCF link |
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KENO
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Here in the link below is how a real backyard hack would test his transmission ,(partway down the first page). You can at least see that it spins in fwd and reverse and check pressures in fwd and reverse too with a couple of gauges. Duane, I see some words about what a rebuild is or isn't from that senior member you refer to in the same linked thread link |
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jterr
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Will check it tomorrow, if it warms up going down to 35 (WTF in Florida) tonight.
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8122pbrainard
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John, The screen will be behind the cooling line (hose) fitting towards the bottom of the case. |
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jterr
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Ok before I just start unbolting things , where is this drain plug and screen located |
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Duane in Indy
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Don't expect the price to be the same as this one was. |
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Keep it as original as YOU want it
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Duane in Indy
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Don't be too surprised if the screen is missing. Some have been tossed. |
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8122pbrainard
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John,
Good advice from Duane. Drain and pull the suction screen at the bottom of the case looking for debris. If it looks good, don't open it up. I have 54 years on a velvet at it still runs like new. |
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Duane in Indy
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OK, I and others have rebuilt them. If you need assistance it is only a "post" away
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Keep it as original as YOU want it
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