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    Posted: June-25-2020 at 12:26pm
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Congrats on finding the problem, good luck as you finish the replacement.
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Originally posted by flyweed flyweed wrote:

glad you found your problem.

Me too especially after 3 pages, one month and not following the suggestion in the very first post after the initial question.


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glad you found your problem. I too just got done repacking my rudder, as well as installing a new steering cable. I can now turn my steering easily with one finger. SO much better, and was a fairly inexpensive fix.
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When you pull the new cable through, tie an extra cord on to it.

Then you would have it in place if you want to pull an extra wire through someday in the future.
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Just wanted to give a quick update and a thanks to the board for helping me with my
Project thus far.

I removed the steering cable at the helm and sure enough it was snapped in half. I had to remove the tag end that remained through the overflow tube.

I finally was able to get the replacement cable from
Nautique parts after it was on back order for a while.

I have the back seat removed and will start the replacement this weekend.
Thanks again -Andrew
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Hey Pete, I've talked to Plowman's several times, and am under the impression they were never Nautique dealers or servicers. I've only been up here in the Northwoods about 12 years now, so maybe before the current owners????    I just know that the people I bought my 93 SN from, bought it and always took it over for service to Three Lakes.   

Now I do it myself, OR I trust Peter over at Ryden Marine to work on it as well.

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Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

So does ryden carry parts as well?

Andrew,
Did you have a chance to open this link? Skidim has a good description/explanation.


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Dan and Andrew,
I'm still curious why Plowmans shows up in the search. Was Plowmans ever a Nautique dealer?


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So does ryden carry parts as well? They are close to my house so that would work well if they did.. I have a friend that works at Plowmans and yeah they really only deal with the brands you mentioned
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Ryden Marine for ALL of your Nautique needs!

Plowman's is now a Lund and Bennington only and wont touch Nautiques. (I've tried).

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Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

I tried calling watercraft.. Plowmans is not a nautique dealer.
Hoping to hear back from some places this week on a timeline .

Andrew,
That's odd since Plowmans shows up in a search Do you know if they were a dealer at one time? If they were, maybe they still have the special cable in stock?


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I tried calling watercraft.. Plowmans is not a nautique dealer.
Hoping to hear back from some places this week on a timeline .
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Originally posted by flyweed flyweed wrote:

Yep..I DID catch that...that would be the 19.5 ft correct????


No, it's a special stroke. Skidim has a good description/explanation.


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Yep..I DID catch that...that would be the 19.5 ft correct????

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Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

My project is on hold
Because no one has any steering cables in stock right now.. nautique parts, Miami nautique, my local dealer in northern wi.

Local dealer, Plowmans or Watercraft?


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Originally posted by flyweed flyweed wrote:

I got a "go to" boat guy, who more than likely would have the cable.
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Dan,
Did you catch that the cable needed is the special longer stroke length made just for CC?


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Dan,
What are the chances.. I live in the minocqua area as well.!
I would be interested in reaching out to your boat guy..
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Where exactly are you in "Northern WI" are you? We are in Minocqua, and I got a "go to" boat guy, who more than likely would have the cable.

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Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

My project is on hold
Because no one has any steering cables in stock right now.. nautique parts, Miami nautique, my local dealer in northern wi. If anyone knows of any places that may have them in stock and can ship let me know!

Andrew,
You mentioned the cable doesn't move when you turn the helm but have you had a chance to pull the cable out to confirm it's the cable and not something in the helm itself?
What are all the dealers saying about delivery on the special cable?


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Originally posted by Cyclone Cyclone wrote:

Keno I just wanted to say thank you about the cable and tube info. The boat steers well on the water with the older short throw cable setup. Like you said it may have less angle than the longer setup but it works for me. I still havemany things to finish but it runs and steers good on its first run on the lake. I'm happy


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My project is on hold
Because no one has any steering cables in stock right now.. nautique parts, Miami nautique, my local dealer in northern wi. If anyone knows of any places that may have them in stock and can ship let me know!
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It takes like 10 minutes to spin the cable out of the helm and you’ll know if it’s broken or not. It’s literally 1 nut.
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Keno I just wanted to say thank you about the cable and tube info. The boat steers well on the water with the older short throw cable setup. Like you said it may have less angle than the longer setup but it works for me. I still havemany things to finish but it runs and steers good on its first run on the lake. I'm happy
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Planet nautique got back to me and thought it was my steering cable not the helm based off a detailed description. They have not got back to me about the potential to convert to a different type of steering system.
A closer look under the dash showed that the steering cable did not move through the travel tube at all as I turned the wheel. Also, the rudder will turn fully when I turn the wheel to the left. Turning the wheel right the rudder stops moving at about half as far as it goes when turned left..
I’m pretty sure this confirms the break is in the cable so I’m going to order a new one today.
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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:



Kinda makes you wonder why they felt the need to make the rudder turn sharper in the 80's


My guess is it had to be done to meet AWSA or whatever the hell the governing body initials are of skiing guidelines to do a 360 inside the turn buoys on a course.
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Originally posted by Cyclone Cyclone wrote:

Keno I don't think I need to start a new thread, I did a test fit today and it looks like it will work for me. There seems to be plenty of rudder movement. It will be a while till it's water ready but I'll be aware and cautious when first giving it test runs. Like I said the steering cable is practically new and I didn't have the original parts anyways in this project boat.
Thanks for the helpful input about tube sizes to go with cable. The cable and tube worked good in the previous boat so I think I'm OK here with the same setup in this boat.
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Good luck with it, I don't think you'll have a problem, other than slightly less rudder travel.

Somebody here on CCF has a 79 BFN that he put the longer cable in with the longer tube

He ran into problems with a short original tube and the new longer cable and had to find the longer tube to match the cable.

Maybe he can tell you how much difference he saw.

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Originally posted by DVskier DVskier wrote:

Keno Did you ever watch a ski show at Sea World in Orlando? The driver would come into the view area at full tilt and do a bat turn! Pretty eye opening experience for all the spectators. Most had never seen how quickly a ski boat can turn. That’s my guess.


Since you asked................yes I did, but it must have been Glastron day or year or whatever at the show.

Not a CC to be seen, it was 1979 or 1980

A 70's SN would do a pretty good "bat turn" though

Maybe somebody can post a photo of the somewhat camera shy dual steering cable setup people talk about on the sea world SN's.

I've seen just as many photos of Bigfoot as I have the dual cable setup
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Keno I don't think I need to start a new thread, I did a test fit today and it looks like it will work for me. There seems to be plenty of rudder movement. It will be a while till it's water ready but I'll be aware and cautious when first giving it test runs. Like I said the steering cable is practically new and I didn't have the original parts anyways in this project boat.
Thanks for the helpful input about tube sizes to go with cable. The cable and tube worked good in the previous boat so I think I'm OK here with the same setup in this boat.
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