1990 Ski nautique problem

Cyclone wrote: So if I take the complete steering system out of a 70's Southwind with a normal throw cable and it's associated steering tube or clamp block tube or whatever it's called and want to use it in an 86 SN project boat, it should steer like a 70's setup? A 70's setup seems to have a good turning radius to me. This is all free stuff and the cable is practically new so it's a lot cheaper than a CC long throw cable is why I am asking.

Cyclone

You should probably start your own separate thread on this and you might get all kinds of opinions.

I figure if you use the short throw cable and the short tube, you'll have decent steering like a 70's boat, as you mentioned but won't have quite the sharpness of the original 86 setup.
Probably only noticeable at slow speeds like docking etc

If you use the short throw cable and the longer tube like in the 86, then you drastically affect the throw of the rudder. That's what many people have done and had problems with and then bought the expensive cable.

If it's all free especially with a practically new cable and it''s a project, you could install it and see how far the rudder turns in each direction as compared to what's there now and decide for yourself.

Kinda makes you wonder why they felt the need to make the rudder turn sharper in the 80's

Thanks all.. i got called back to work this week so my mission tomorrow afternoon or saturday is to take it apart .. I’ll take some pics and report back.

Bri892001 wrote: D.) The possibility that your existing helm is not broken. You keep your helm and just buy the cable for that helm. You'll have to take the helm apart and see.

My thought as well. Plus 1 From the description of what's going on, I have a feeling the helm end of the cable is chewed up but disassembly will tell.

I’m still waiting on nautique parts to get back to me.. wondering if I should just order the steering cable and the helm and just take care of both in one shot.. I’m not sure which helm part I need ... I don’t think the steering wheel tilts on my boat../

And just to be sure.. the steering wheel should have a hard “stop” at the end range of motion for the rudder both to the right and left?
Currently mine only has a stop when turned to the left..

This plan will be a waste of time, IMO.

The correct cable is expensive but you won't have to replace it twice.

Longer throw increases steering travel and therefore maneuverability.

I tried to search but couldn't find out why the years 82 to 90 need a special longer cable than other years. Is the arm on the rudder different or is the helmdifferent or is there some other reason
Thanks

Wow this is really getting complicated.... would
I be best served by used looking for the direct replacement?

Looked again and the pic fooled me... i think it’s a big-t after all. I have a spare in the basement. If you end up needing one, pm me.

I’ve heard that the r&p may not fit in the 90-93 dash, but I haven’t confirmed that myself. Fitting ram end of the cable down the conduit sure isn’t fun (the rotary helm end is much easier). I would also ask about steering wheel interchangeability (yours takes a 3/4” taper).

I’ve seen some no/name rotary helms in mid/late 90s Malibus. Easily replaced with modern Sea Star rotary helm & cables. I believe Sea Star bought out Teleflex.

Hope that view is ok to help determine what cable that might be

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/uploads/19740/D07CC90A-7A20-4252-8A4A-CCA243160F8D.jpeg

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Not sure how to post a pic.. I tried the tree with the arrow up but it didn’t work..
I can send an email photo to someone if they feel comfortable .... or maybe I need to do something else for getting the photo on here..

Andrewkelly1983 wrote: Thanks for the responses.. I’m going to try and post a pic of what it looks like under the steering console .. I don’t think it’s a rack and pinion.. it resembles more of a rotary system I believe ...

If it looks like a rotary, it's the Big T Teleflex.

Mpost wrote: The link below is a non tilt helm Assy. for your boat vintage. Helm

Martin,
I don't think Andrew has the rack and pinion. Chances are higher that it's the Big T Teleflex.