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    Posted: February-22-2007 at 10:57am
Been looking for a 'project' Fish Nautique for a while to keep down on the coast and haven't had any luck.

I'm thinking about making an offer on this Shamrock '90 22ft center console.
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Owner says it needs some tranny work, but it has a fresh 351.

I know it's not a CC, but it is an inboard!

reidp, don't you own a shamrock? Any body else have any knowledge to share about Shammies?
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sorry, link wont work due to the the url containing 'a$$'. (thanks '79)

http://www.fishthecla$$ic.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16375

1990 22 foot Open Center Console. (22' x 8'6")

Located in Panama City, FL 32401. Here is a link to a map:
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Had a new Seamaxx 351 professionally installed about 2 years ago at a local shop. Boat used only a couple times after that. The engine runs perfectly and starts right up with the key.

The hull is in good shape with no soft spots, rot, etc anywhere that I can find. Cosmetically, the gelcoat shows typical wear & age.

The transmission needs overhaul as it works, but drags slightly in neutral. (Around $200-300 in parts. And for that matter, only around $200 in labor if you remove it and take it to the shop yourself.) It is a 1:1 Velvet Drive.

The engine is great, but I would plan to restore or at least "go through" the rest of the boat before using it. I would say it is in "average" condition for it's age. At a minimum, I would rewire it, change hoses, through-hulls, etc. Probably would change steering & shifter, new cutla$$ bearing, repack shaft & rudder, etc. etc. Personally, I was planning to completely restore the boat to like new, including an Awlgrip paint job, but you don't necessarily have to do that.

Galvanized trailer included. Condition is "fair" at best (rusty) , although it does have new tires, wheels, and bearings.

I'm asking $8000 and the price is firm. I figure a person can buy it for that, put a couple grand in it getting it rigged and shipshape to their liking, and come out ahead. I would do it myself, and that is why I bought it, but recent demands on my time dictate that I would have to put this boat on the back burner for too long of a time.

Other things to mention are that the boat has bottom paint, but no sign of blisters. You are welcome to sand a few random spots down to the gelcoat and inspect. (Boat was only kept in the water in the summer, and removed in the off season.) I think the bottom paint could be stripped off and the gelcoat buffed back. Also, the tanks look remarkably good, with no pitting on the top and the original paint & stickers still in tact. I also have a set of spray dodgers for the T-top and the cushion for the leaning post. I did not show them in the photos. They are in fair condition.

I do not want to seatrial the boat. It is not currently registered or insured. But I will demonstrate the engine on a garden hose. In a nutshell, it is a 17 year old boat with a new engine. Plan to spend some time on it before using it. With that said, I think my price is more than fair and I would keep it for myself if I had the time to do the projects any time soon.

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Originally posted by 82tique 82tique wrote:

sorry, link wont work due to the the url containing 'a$$'. (thanks '79)


that has nothing to do with me it was in place long before I riped someone a new a$$.

thought this site was for ski boats and CC's particularly not center console POS fishing boats.
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Originally posted by 79nautique 79nautique wrote:



thought this site was for ski boats and CC's particularly not center console POS fishing boats.


That's why I posted in the 'off-topic' section.

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valid point 82...
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'82, Yep, I've got mine and I love it, but it's just a baby, at 17' compared to the 22 yur looking at. But it's an entirely different kind and purpose of boat from a CC, so I don't sense a conflict. . And Shamrock has never made ski or speed boats, however I have skied behind one.   Two words sum them up- Heavy Duty.   
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Originally posted by reidp reidp wrote:

    Two words sum them up- Heavy Duty.   


That's what I've heard and read. Looking to use it for diving and fishing 'near shore' around oil rigs/reefs in the gulf.

what year is yours?
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I've always wanted an inboard center console boat,there are alot of things I like to do on the water that I don't like to do in my SN or arenacraft or schiada.I've been looking for around a 19 ft but don't know a thing about them,this is a good brand a Shamrock?

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Mine's an 88, but only has 240 hrs. The full keel and protected shaft and prop is a blessing, esp if you're to be around the shallows and reefs. It will run, at idle of course, in 12" of water, turning a 10x9 prop recessed in a pocket. (Only the 17s were set up like this, but the others draw minimal water as well, similar to a CC.) It's just a 140HP GM 4cyl and only runs about 32mph, but will run all week on the 23 gal tank.      

Munday, the Shamrock is the Correct Craft of modern fishing boats, and one of the few that makes an inboard. Their most popular boat since the 70's has been their 20 footer most likely, which normally comes with a 302V8. Lots of 22's are out there as well. Just query Boattraderonline.com and you should find a handfull. Very simple, few thrills and excellent resale, just like a CC. I like mine for taking the dogs and beaching it w/o worrying about the prop digging in, and also not lots of vinyl to scratch up.   
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Some friends of ours up on Sandusky Bay traded their 2001 for a Shamrock and love it. As Reid said "the C/C of fishing boats".

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Thanks

I wish I could think of just one boat to fulfill my needs at the lake!But instead I'm building on another 5 bays of storage.But a utility boat is high on my list.A buddy of mine had a"Sku Barge" I loved that thing all gla$$ interior and double hulled it was cool.
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Dear 82, you’re on the right track in choosing an inboard. Although my friend calls them Slamrocks because on the lack of dead rise (He was also was a CC dealer in the ‘80’s and early ‘90’s and Shamrocks were his biggest competition in the center consol market so just take that comment with a grain of salt). There are several Shamrocks moored in my club, one guy has owned 3 over the past 15 years, but I think that a result of the inboard power. As for me, I just purchased my ‘Fish” last spring and I am very impressed with the ride. My 351 “starts on a dime”. While not a speed demon, I cruise at about 25-27mph and top out at 37mph; but let it get a chop up and I will out run most outboards. Other options for you may include looking for ‘Fish’ project. I believe there is a ’85 posted on this site but at $12k and I remember seeing a ’88 project ‘fish’ on Boat Trader at $7900. But at $8k for the Shamrock that may be the better deal. Good luck, Jerry
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I hear ya Munday, if I pull the trigger on this boat it will be my third boat (CC 2001, 23ft. Pontoon).I think everything I need will be covered if I get the Shamrock.

Thanks for the input reid and jerry, going to look at it next weekend.

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this boat is sitting in my yard, right now. its my buddys and a very cool boat.220 stalker with a tiny cabin in the front. <img src="http://www.shamrockboats.com/content/models/220S/introduction.jpg">
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82, Don't ever think you have it covered....I thought that I did too until I ended up with this fleet: (23 CC Cuddy, 88 2001, 20' Hydrodyne Deck Boat, 14' Crosby Fishing Boat, Jet Ski) I still don't think I have it covered, however my wife said I did 4 boats ago
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Funny you guys bring this up. My Dad who is 82 just sold his 87 con walk 20.He owned it since new and had picked it up from a dealer near the factory after doing a factory tour sort of like CC I suppose.Great boat,still looked like new after being in Key Largo the whole time.It went for 11500.He has another up here at home in Illinois,that had spent it's time in Miami,but it has had a rough life.We are going to paint it this summer and it's going back down next fall.It has conventional seating and a full windshield,better for my Mom who can't take the wind and rougher ride of the centerconsole.Shamrock has gone thru several owners now,not as stable as Correct Craft in that respect,but you can't go wrong with them.
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The guy sold boat to someone else today   

back to the drawing board.

Oh well, 79 said it was a POS anyway
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Hell '82, I've met 79, and if rode in one he'd want one too. I know you don't need comforting, but I'm sure there'll be another one come along soon. I've got my perifereal (sp) vision working for you.
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I'm just not a fan of the center consule (sp) boats, guess if I'm going out into big water I would rather have a large rear deck to fish off and some cover up front incase the weather gets bad.
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Boat trader had/has a Fish for around $8K that seemed like a project and could be flexible on price.

I've ridden on my fish, a 22 Shamrock and a 26 Shamrock. I'd say the 26 has more room for sure, but the Fish Nautique ride is just hard to beat. It's a wet boat, but from what I hear, the 22 Shamrock is just as wet. (Plus I never go out in the boat expecting to stay dry, no matter what the boat or the seas...just not the way I think).

My $.02 would be to keep looking for a Fish and if you have to stray from a fish, get an older Topaz 24 center console, and I'll trade you for my Fish
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Originally posted by 79nautique 79nautique wrote:

I'm just not a fan of the center consule (sp) boats, guess if I'm going out into big water I would rather have a large rear deck to fish off and some cover up front incase the weather gets bad.

I agree with 79, I like the looks of the center console over a Walk around style, however I do like the extra protetion agains the elements. When running my cuddy when it get rough, I just put up the bimini an drive without getting wet, just can't see out the windshield, need wipers!
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Just checked the boat trader and came up with two different Fish Nautiques for $7,900 and one for $11,900 with a factory tower.

Check em out already?
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