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tullfooter
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Joe
Weekday mornings are tough, usually at work by 7:00am. But let me know, might be able to sneak out. Mountain or Highlands. We usually hit the mountain. Crazy Days are a must. We stay in Boyne City. Email SRKirchner@aol.com Tull |
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Tull,
Thanks for the response. We'll have to get together... keep me posted on the 12th thing. And yes... I know Alpine well. I spend my winters teaching at Mt Holly and Boyne (for a few weeks). Teach Skiing and Snowboarding. I'll let you know our PL schedule and if you can make it out that would be great. Are you available weekday mornings at all? My email is joedelbecq@gmail.com Talk soon. Joe |
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tullfooter
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Joe
Looking at your profile I'm guessing you've been to Alpine Valley. My family practically lives there during the winter.(snowboard) Tull |
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tullfooter
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Joe
I live about 1 mile from Pontiac Lake. My sub is across from the Home Depot. Problem is, the lake I live on only allows 90hp outboards. My BFN typically runs on White Lake. We've got a tough summer schedule with our show team but let me know when you'll be out this way and maybe we can hit Pontiac Lake and do some stump jumpin. I've never been on PL, but I've been to the Pontiac Lake Inn many times. Best cheeseburger I've ever had. Cold beer too. When do you usually head out? 87BFN and I are trying to put something together for Aug 12th on White Lake. I'll keep you posted. Tull |
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Hey Tullfooter (sorry for the thread hijack),
Do you live in the NW Detroit area? I live in Grand Blanc and boat quite a bit at Pontiac Lake. I'm just starting to get my feet wet ... barefooting, and have no one to coach me. Maybe we could get together sometime and you could give me a few pointers. My boat or yours, I'll bring cold ones! I do not have a CC yet... I have a 86 Ski Eliminator with Tower and BI Tower Boom. We usually go out 3 or 4 times a week... my schedule is pretty flexible. Let me know if yoou are interested in getting together. Thanks. Joe |
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tullfooter
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Pushing 1600 and I'm pretty sure the engine has never been rebuilt. This winter is going to be a learning experience when I get into this engine. I know just enough to be dangerous but I've got an ace mechanic who is chomping at the bit to get into this engine. He's got a guy who's a 454 freak. Kind of scares me because I'm looking for performance AND more importantly, reliability.
Are you running A/C MR43T plugs? And where did you get your ignition parts from? Wire sets? Tull |
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Tull,
How many hours on your boat? I definitely recomend getting rid of the points. Go with a new breakerless ignition. We can run them side by side and just see how tired the old girl is. |
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87
I'm thinking the engine may be tired. I'm going to nurse it through the season and then figure out what to do this winter. I figure you've got a couple ideas after what you and Eric did with your boat. From all the posts I've read from the GL trip, that boat of yours is a workhorse. Steve |
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87BFN owner
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Tullfooter
I am running a little over 4600 at wot. Speed not 100% sure of yet. I would say about 46-48mph. Did not get a chance to put a GPS on it yet. I was only getting 4200rpm at wot before I put the hi-teks on, even with the new acme prop. |
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What RPM are you running WOT? This weekend I was spinning 4300rpm at 45mph. Steve |
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Kinda late in the thread, but my old Tique that I bought new in 78 had a 12x14 Federal.
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tullfooter
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Oh no!
Sounds like I may have to pry open the wallet for a new prop if this doesn't perform. Friday 6:00. Boats, barefooting, burgers, and beers. I'm not sure of what order. Hope you can make it. |
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Tullfooter,
The BFN originally came with a 14x14 prop on it. Tim is correct the acme that I am running is 13x14 RH with .135 cup. |
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TRBenj
Thanks for the advice. I saw the 540 used on a lot of Mustangs and smaller boats than mine, most with 351's. That's why I'm asking. The guy I bought the boat from said he worked with ACME to set this prop up for this specific boat. He used the boat mostly for footing, which is what I bought the boat for, mainly endurance racing. We will be testing it this week with some 200lb footers and see how it performs. I'll let you know. What are you guys with BFN's running? BTW, I've got two 13 x 13 1" three blades (not sure of the brand) in good condition if anyone needs one. Steve |
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Maybe if you do a lot of wakeboarding. Otherwise, Acme has a new prop (13x14, I think) that was designed for the big block boats. I imagine you'd spin that 540 a little too much. |
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I've read the threads on the 540 and it seams like it's the right prop to have on the right boat and engine. Me being new to the CC family here's my question. I've got a brand new ACME 540 13 x 12V with a .150 cup on my 85 Barefoot Nuatique 454.
Does that sound like a good setup? Steve |
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Pete, its definitely a 540. I told him exactly what to buy and where to buy it. I havent been in the boat yet (so I dont know specifics), but Ive seen the thing screaming across the lake. |
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This 12" or 13" prop thing has really got me bugged now so I've been doing some calculating. I found that if it does have a 12 on it and taking into account the hull clearance gain with more prop aft rake of the 540, then it will only be 3/16" closer to the hull than the original Federal 12" . I guess the only way to really tell is to get up north. I've got the prop puller ready!
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Tim, I'm sure if you had found out what your neigbor put on his Tique you would have mentioned it. If you run into him, ask him for me. Thanks.
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If your Tique has the original prop on it, I bet you'll find that Reid is right. The one on my '78 appears to be original and I believe its a 12x14- it looks tiny. |
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Reid, Well now you have got me worried that when I got under the boat and checked the prop size that my eyes were lying to me. All of my dwindling memory as well as what some other people have said tells me it is a 13". I should have taken a picture of it! I'd bet that's something Tim would have done! I can't think of a better person to do a prop study as it will be accurate and detailed. Getting back to my prop, I will find out my next trip north on the 9th of Aug. I'll keep you informed!! |
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Reid, thanx for saving my manhood in front of all these morons,how dare they talk about my size or lack of!!!!!
As for Boaty ,I am elevating myself at his expense,if he could read, I was relating to his and my own method of taking a whizz after the ice water dunking.....boat dr/ boat nurse |
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So reid's got the small shaft and boat dr owns the little balls??? No wonder these guys need such fast boats, to compensate![/QUOTE] Let's see now. If we were trying to compensate, we'd probably have something new, big, and flashing to get the girls,....like quinner's boat maybe! So no need to compensate here, as I think Doc and Baldy actually wrote the book on confidence. Hell, we could pick up chicks in a CC kayak. Our boats are just a friendly reminder. However, if HW's analogy of boat speed being an indicator of physical attributes IS correct, then he must be the Mr. Ed of CC owners. Doc, quit teasing Boaty. He squats like a noble stud. But since the damage is already done, his next trick, just after he learns to ski, is to raise his leg on your tent July 08. |
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Holly"WOOD"
FOUL FOUL FOUL That was a low blow,you will set the rest of the game out on the side lines.You do not play well with others. |
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So reid's got the small shaft and boat dr owns the little balls??? No wonder these guys need such fast boats, to compensate! |
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Good to hear that Karen is taking good care of ya brother! Some times ya have to make sure shorty gets strieghtened out after an experience like that! I'll bet you were scared for a while.
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stang, karen did a little research and "low" and behold he was slowly brought back in to the sunlight,boy was scared there for a short time.
Squatting to pee don't look too man like,kinda like Reids big male Lab, ha don't pick up his leg; kinda half and half.............boat dr |
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I liked the response to the cold water...the Doc has never seen his ball sack hide that far away...big diff when you are not used to 68 deg water!
Doc have you found your jewls yet???? Might take a few weeks Seems to me...a lot of us who are high on the 540 are using it with 70's SN's...I was running an OJ 13x13 0n my promo...top end was the same...however I liked the smoother Acme and thought it responded much stronger on hard turns! My stars and stripes loves an OJ 14x18...that one has been tops on that boat(top end is better)! I did not see much difference between a 12x14 and 13x13 on the stang(perhaps a bit more hole shot with the 13x13)...however the boat will slow down faster with the larger wheel...more drag! Both are Federals. Seems to me that the 12x14 had a tad bit better top end. Quite frankly...as long as I have no dings and the prop is in balance, I am a happy camper)even though I'm a hotel guy). I do like the Acme...I would take an OJ over a federal any day! |
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My favorite BoatDr line from the GL weekend was when I managed to get Doc's attention as boat nurse was putting sun screen on my back. As I teased him about me getting some much-needed nursing and attention from Karen, he simply stated, "yeah, you're pumping up the tires, but I'm riding that bicycle home." I pee'd the sandbar.
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btw, I like the new addition of "boat nurse." Ha!
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