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Hey everyone,

I thought I would show a few things that I have been working on with the boat. It sat in the garage just resting for the winter. I pulled it out one time early in the spring to let it run a little but it has been rather cool here this spring so not much boating action yet. I pulled it out last friday though and got to work.

I started off by pulling the old registration and boat numbers and cleaning off the goo left behind. Then it was time to get to work cleaning up the top side of the hull from the years of sitting and having fiberglass dust covering it. Not to mention the actual fiberglass and foam on the top side of the boat in the back.

First things first was a good washing. After the boat was clean I pulled the windshield off, removed the bilge vent intake and exhaust and the side teak by the rear seat so that all that would be out of the way.

My plan was to start at the front and get the front top and the sides completed so that I could get the new registration and numbers installed. So I started with a wool pad and some 3m Perfect-It compound on my Dewalt 849 buffer. This did pretty good but it became apparent that some light wet sanding would help things look better. So I whipped out the 1500 and 2000 grit sand paper. I started with the 2000 and that was plenty for the front. After finishing the wet sanding on the top bow I went back to buffing. I started with a Wool pad with 3m Perfect-it, then a red/maroon foam pad and the 3m Perfect-it. Next I changed to a yellow foam pad and some Collinite fiberglass cleaner, then I finished thing off with a white foam pad and Collinite Fiberglass wax.




At this point the top of the bow was finished. I could see my reflection in the gel and anything that was sat on top of the boat slid off, just what I was wanting.   



Next I did the exact same thing on each side back to the windshield with the exception that before I applied the wax I cleaned the area where the registration goes to make sure there was no wax or oils of any kind there then applied the registration and the numbers I had made to try and match the ski nautique that will be going on the side soon. Once the registration was on I went back over everything with wax, doing the area around the letters by hand. I do still have to go back and hit the V area under the boat, I was getting tired and did not feel like getting this just yet.





Once this was finished I removed the hand rail on the port side along with the interior piece that runs along there. *** Heads up*** Wool pads will burn the vinyl off of your interior if you happen to run into it. After this was removed I went to work with a razor blade. This area had a lot of fiberglass from me getting in and out of the boat with crap all over my gloves and just making a mess. Next I went over the area wet sanding with 2000. I finished up the port side and the back. I still have the Drivers side to clean up then I need to buff that whole area.
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One other thing that I was able to do was to install my new SS cup holders that are a little larger than the stockers that would not hold anything other than a can.





After working on the above Saturday and Sunday last week, Monday we took it out and had some fun in the sun. I tried out my box anchor and I really like it. It does not take up much space and it deploys easy, holds great then pulls back up no problem. Here we are anchored and swimming. My wife and son are on the swim deck that is why the boat appears to be a little nose high.


I still have to finish wet sanding and buffing the 2 sides, apply my new Ski Nautique letters on the sides, install the new pop up cleats by the windshield, then give the seat cushions a good cleaning and I will finally be able to call this project complete!! I plan on continuing on posting to this thread until that point so that the build thread is complete. I still have all of my receipts as well so I think I may try and come up with a build tallie so others can have an Idea on costs associated with this kind of project. This will be a while though, there are A LOT of receipts!!!    

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I may still build it eventually. I wanted to get it back on the water and use it some first and see how we would use it with kids. It may have to wait until after I add a tower since that is where I put my board right now.
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Great job Kris. Did you put off building the starboard-side bench seat?
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Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

Wow Kris you did a number on that boat. Wonderful job. She sounds good and looks awsome..


Thanks A Lot!!
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

Awesome job on the boat Kris! I'd love to see some more on-water pictures of it. How is it running?

By the way, maybe it's mentioned elsewhere, but where are you located?


OK, I will take some the next time we are out, Hopefully this weekend. It is running like a champ, I will take some more video as well.

I am just north of Birmingham in Gardendale, Al.
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Originally posted by Kristof Kristof wrote:

Very nice work. She looks great!!



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Wow Kris you did a number on that boat. Wonderful job. She sounds good and looks awsome..
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Awesome job on the boat Kris! I'd love to see some more on-water pictures of it. How is it running?

By the way, maybe it's mentioned elsewhere, but where are you located?
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Very nice work. She looks great!!

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Very nice work. She looks great!!

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Kris, just wanted to add my congrats and thanks for putting this all out there on the site, it might be a long thread dated back to Jan 2008 but you have finished with a boat you can and should be very very proud of. Great pictures and descriptions.

I think Brian said everything in a lot less words than me "WOW"


I look forward to your next 4 year thread
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Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

Wow, very nice. Looks awesome.


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Wow, very nice. Looks awesome.
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Hey everyone it has been a few weeks since I last posted. Mainly because life with school, kid activities, work, yadda, yadda, yadda. Anyway the boat is for the most part complete.

I say for the most part because I still have a few things to do like, popup cleats, bigger cup holders, clean and buff the whole boat, scrub the seats and get them back to like new clean, etc... Besides are these boats ever complete? Down the road I see a stereo, interior lights, tower...

It is completely operational now though. Let me show you all what I have completed.

Here is the tongue of the trailer. There are several new things here.
- New Crash pad wood and carpet.
- Winch mount painted and holes drilled for the safety chains to hang on while not hooked to my truck.
- Ditched the Chain and installed a turn buckle



Here is the inside of the front of the boat with all the interior completed.


And the back of the boat interior all done.


The small side seats in the back and the one in the front are not mounted to anything at all. I found that the friction of the other seats in there was enough to hold them in no problem. I wanted to be able to pull these out easily after being in rain or during the winter so that it would be easy to let things dry out.

These are pictures of the new lights. I completely rewired the trailer and replaced all the lights with LED. All connections were crimped soldered then covered with weather proofing heat shrink.
The lights on top of the guide on poles are awesome when backing the boat in the dark!!!






This is what makes all the work worth it, bringing my family out and having fun together!!


This is just a cool shot from while we were on the water yesterday.

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Originally posted by Donald80SN Donald80SN wrote:

Nice work.


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Nice work.
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I think I may have found the source of my oil leak. It looks like it is coming from this on the fuel pump. It is like a plug or something. Is this something that can be tightened up or does the fuel pump need replacing?

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I have not had a whole lot of time to work on the boat the past couple of weeks but I still have gotten a little bit done here and there.

I do not have a picture of it but, I ran my new 8AWG power and ground wires up to the dash. I ran an 8AWG ground wire to the rear of the boat so I have good power and ground now. I wired up the anchor light and the bilge fan as well. So all the wiring in the boat is completed. I still have a little tidying up to do under the engine but everything is hooked up and working.

My Depth finder is installed. I have not mounted the transducer just yet I want to get it on the water and try things out first before epoxying it down. I went with the Humming bird because I wanted to be able to see readings when the water was shallower than 3 feet. To me that is the most important time!!


I finished up my battery box lid. I am using a flip up handle vs the hole in the top like they did from the factory. Hopefully it will not rattle. If it does then I will figure something out.


I painted the underside of the rear floor and put the carpet and trim on the rear removable floor. I also have some rubber on top of the stringers. I did not want the have the painted surfaces just sitting together rubbing on each other so this should work well.


I painted and carpeted my gas tank covers. I never did take a picture of all 3 pieces in by themselves. I still have to add some finger tabs to them so that I can get them back out easier so I will take a picture when I do that.


Here are the seat bases all painted and carpeted waiting to go in the boat patiently.


Here is the rear seat mocked into place getting the tops of the side seats adjusted to match the top of the boat.
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Originally posted by mark c mark c wrote:



Did you ever get a chance to measure the front observer seat bases? I need to start making a new set for my BFN from scratch and need some general dimensions, heigh width depth, etc. so I can start to build up a set.

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I have not but I will get some together and post them up soon.
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Did you ever get a chance to measure the front observer seat bases? I need to start making a new set for my BFN from scratch and need some general dimensions, heigh width depth, etc. so I can start to build up a set.

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Here are a couple of shots of my trailer winch mount. I am going to pull it back off clean up all the welds and shoot some paint on it sometime this week then put it back on the boat all prettied up.

I wanted to give it a try taking the boat to the lake once first to make sure everything would work fine. It did.





I will be ditching the chain soon as well in favor of using a turn buckle on the front. After that I will feel much safer trailering the boat having it held on by a winch and turn buckle on the front and transom straps on the back.

I am finishing things up this week and hope to have the boat 100% complete on the inside this weekend.

Then I want to give the outside of the boat a good buff and wax to bring the shine back out and put on my new Ski Nautique letters on the side.

After that I have some new projects that I want to dive off into like Tinting the windshield, adding a stereo, interior LED lighting, adding a tower, fun stuff like that. First things first I have got to finish the boat!!
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Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

That's awesome. Sounds like it's really running nice.

Right between seconds 30-40 on the video, there's a little spray of water that appears then immediately disappears, right behind the engine. Is that the shaft packing?


Thanks. First time I have ever ran it on the water without the engine cover on. You hear a lot more noises from the engine and trans that makes you wonder if things are right or not. Everything worked perfectly though!!

That was water in the bilge from the dripping shaft packing. It would shift from the front to the back when I took off and hitting the drive shaft made it splash like that.
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That's awesome. Sounds like it's really running nice.

Right between seconds 30-40 on the video, there's a little spray of water that appears then immediately disappears, right behind the engine. Is that the shaft packing?
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Sunday was the big day. Lake test day!!!

I got up put the Guide pole covers on and installed the poles on the boat.




I then loaded up all my required Boat saftey equipment and every tool I thought I could possibly might need. And off to the lake I went. The boat is not 100% but I wanted to have a lake test before I started buttoning everything up and calling it finished.

For more go check out the video. 85 SN 2001 LVL Project Water Test

The boat handled awesome. The boat is much stiffer than before and handled the chop much better. The lake was pretty rough at times and she handled like a champ. It sits a little higher out of the water than before. Granted I do not have all the seats and everything installed. I did have more than the average amount of tools on board though.

I am so pumped right now guys, I can not even tell you!! I am hoping to finish everything up this week and take it out for a day of fun this coming weekend.
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Guys I had a fantastic weekend working on the boat. Friday I did some new wiring and cleaned up and organized the wiring and tubing in the bilge while watching the opening ceremonies.

Saturday I finished building my winch mount. I do not have a picture of that though, I will take pictures soon to post.

I also finished up my guide on posts. I saw something on the net a while back that I wanted to try for this. Basically you take a heat source and heat up a piece of schedule 40 PVC and heat it up so it is pliable then bend it to the shape that you want. I wanted it to go over the guide poles. I started by trying to use a 1100 degree heat gun. It would heat a small section but I could not get the whole thing up to temp. Then I tried a hand held propane torch. Still did not work good enough. Then out came the big guns. I pulled out my Inferno weed burning torch. See the torch here This did the trick and had a 5' piece of PVC like butter in about a minute. (Insert best Tim Allen Grunt Here!!)

So I heated up the PVC slid it over the guide posts and held it where I wanted and helped the bend stay somewhat round until it cooled. If you try this wear welding gloves!!! Once it cooled I threw on a coat of paint.
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Originally posted by Kristof Kristof wrote:

It all starts coming together nicely Kris... How's the tension on getting her back on the water for the first time...??




Not much tension, I just want to get it done so I can have a life again. All I have been doing is going to work then coming home and working on the boat. I am hoping for a water test this weekend!!
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It all starts coming together nicely Kris... How's the tension on getting her back on the water for the first time...??


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Originally posted by newguy1986 newguy1986 wrote:

I like that trailer winch mount! you got any detailed drawings / dimensions?


I do not have detailed drawings but I will take measurements once I have it finished up and thing are a little more solid.
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I like that trailer winch mount! you got any detailed drawings / dimensions?
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Originally posted by baitkiller baitkiller wrote:

Looks great Papa. One little thing that bugs me on almost every trailer is that the jack handle is mounted on the passenger side. So when you have no help and you back down to hitch up the trailer you wind up doing laps around the boat or truck or smashing you shins on the trailer frame. I have since moved all of my trailer jacks to the driver side. Nothing interferes and my shins are much happier. The boat looks fantastic though.


Yep, I back to my trailers alone quite a bit and know what you are talking about. Unfortunately, if i were to move my jack to the drivers side it would interfere with my winch handle. So it is a compromise that I have to make in this instance.
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