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    Posted: April-22-2010 at 9:33pm
Hi There,

How do you know when to change the Fuel / Water Separator? Where can you buy these? How much are they. Mine has approx 150 hours.

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Happened to get mine at west marine, stopped in to check out their store at the time I needed one. Not sure of the interval. I am hoping for evey other season, but I do not get many hours on my boat.
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Matt - I bought mine at NAPA. Was kinda pricey, around $30. Better than a carb rebuild I guess. I replaced mine because I had no idea how old it was from PO - that was about 150 hrs ago. I am planning on running it again this year. I probably should empty the canister, might have water in it.
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I change my fuel filter every 2 oil changes so that makes 100 hours on them...
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Is it the large 2 piece canister type? It such a large filter I went 300 hours on mine there was no water in the canister and the filter was still pretty much clean even after I cut the ends off the inside had almost no debris in it. I got mine from car quest auto parts it was a exact replacement.



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I change mine every spring. I have an 88 and the filter is a little different. I can say this, when I removed the filter last week it had been sitting in fuel since the fall and there were rubber pieces that had started to break down.
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Does anyone know the Part # for this 1989 fuel water separator? Is this Fram who makes this?
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The pic I posted is a filter off a 1989 PCM 351.
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I tried getting the Black Canister off with a Filter Wrench. No chance and it's so tight down there.
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I believe there's at a bolt at the bottom that lets the canister come off. I tried to get mine off like that no dice.

Im bad though 400 hours and idk how old it was before i bought it but thats 400 in 3 seasons haha
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Matt - It's actually easiest to remove the entire unit & chuck it in a vice - then you can get some torque on it.

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Any update Matt? I went to change mine and had the same problem. I thought I would just be able to unscrew the canister from the lid by hand, but no dice.
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Honestly...I just left it for this season and might change it with the dealer over the winter. I have 908 hrs on the boat and last filter change was at 835 hrs. Not worried as I keep the boat underground in heated parking.

Cant believe how hard those are to get off!

How many hours do you have on yours?

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I know Nautique parts is one source for these:
Fuel Filter/Water Separator

The above is the one that mine allegedly in mine, but I couldn't find it. All I could find is the regular in line fuel filter type, that would be similar to what's in a car.

Where is it typically located?
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Mines down below the front right (when facing in the observer's seat) of the engine. Beside the Oil Filter.
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Ok, thanks. I guess mine doesn't have one then.

The newer style ones look like a little actual oil filter, they just spin on and off it looks like.
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Hey,

My 1982 does not screw off. You loosen the bolt and the housing slides off.

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It looks like CC was all over the board with the design of these.

My 78 Martinique's screws off, and looks just like an oil filter.
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Mine looks like a long Oil Filter Too but does not screw off easily. It's stuck!
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Matt, the first time I took mine off it was ont here pretty good as well. When I put the new one on, I used a little petroleum jelly on the gasket and it has come off with no issues since.

I hope I did not jinx myself as I will be changing mine out and putting in a solid steel brake line for the feed line to the carb.
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Depending on how similar it is to an oil filter, maybe something like this would work:
Oil Filter Pliers

They make them in some different sizes and a lot of companies make them. They work great on stubborn oil filters. You just have to be careful not to totally crush it, in case it's really not coming off and you have to leave it in place.

The strap type works well and this type works well too if you can get a bite:
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I have an 88 and can't ever get that thing off. I seem to end up waiting until I have to go to the marina for something else and let him take it off. The mechanic told me if it's on for longer than a season, he can't spin it off either w/o taking it to a vice. I'm going to start dumping it when I winterize.
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If you mount the filter assembly upside down on the existing mount it is much easier to remove. I then used a belt style oil filter removal tool to break it loose.
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Matt, I've got the NAPA Part # written down in my manual at home. I'll look it up and post it.
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If you are going to be running ethanol fuel in your boat I would consider upgrading to a fuel/water seperator type filter that is compatible with ethanol fuels and change it every year or two. I really dont think the old small Fram filters (C111OPL) will do well long term in ethanol fuel. I think there was another thread showing a really gunked up filter a few montyhs ago.
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Originally posted by emccallum emccallum wrote:

If you are going to be running ethanol fuel in your boat I would consider upgrading to a fuel/water seperator type filter that is compatible with ethanol fuels and change it every year or two. I really dont think the old small Fram filters (C111OPL) will do well long term in ethanol fuel. I think there was another thread showing a really gunked up filter a few montyhs ago.


Not a bad idea, i just changed out all the fuel line on my 79 supreme, the ethanol eats up the older stuff..
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Okay the NAPA part # is

NAPA Gold 3436
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@ Matt - Thanx :)

Here are a couple of pics of mine. I think I've finally determined that leaving it connected to the bracket, and using an oil filter wrench might be the best way to get it off...just have to go pick one up :)

Another question, the 2 small plugs on the top, what are they for? Bleeding air out of the fuel line?



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Hey,

That looks like mine and it bolts on and the canister does not screw off. Maybe they made some that screw off that look the same????

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Bolts on from the bottom? There is a bolt on the bottom I think.
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