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Thanks, Lee.
I'll put myself up as a target along with Tim when I say I work much better with my hands. It's easier for me to work with the contours.
Unless, I have a job where I can use my porter cable cordless tools.
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Wow, that looks great. Much better than the red and white job that was there.
I think I would go with the d/a on the long relitivly flat sides just to speed it along. save the hand work for details and edges.
I do like that color
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Tim, Hollywood's going to be all over that one...
the pad is about 3/8 thick, when wet sanding and buffing on anything you always stay away from the corners, it really is pretty efficient.and is flexible
my frickin mind goes to fast to wetsand by hand and i always look for the easist way out.
the soap keeps the paper lubed and keeps it from clogging. you do have to keep the surface clean always or you will scratch if dirt gets in the paper
Sorry San, Guy's and Gals....
it does take some practice and you cant have an idle mind when wet sanding.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Michelle, obviously Im an advocate of wetsanding- but if you "really enjoy" it, youre nuts!


Tim, I "know" there's something wrong with me. I do like it though!

Eric, Why soap?

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Michelle, obviously Im an advocate of wetsanding- but if you "really enjoy" it, youre nuts!

Eric, how flexible is the DA backing pad? Im not familiar with them, but a few who had considered going that route here had reservations about using it on the complex curves of the hull... especially in the hands of a beginner. Im all for efficiency, but Ive gotten great results doing it by hand.
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

you guy's .


Boy, I'm glad I don't fall in that category because I sure am having fun with my sanding block and bucket of plain ol' water.

Sorry Eric, couldn't help myself.
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you guy's need a Hutchins "wet" DA, velcro pad, a little soap and water and your done in half the time.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

I've got to learn how to do this wet sanding.


Thanks, Bruce. I really enjoy the wet sanding. You can "see and feel" the progress as you are sanding away.

I thought I would add to watch your fingertips...won't hurt till later.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Are you proceeding with having the gel color matched?

After that, we'll need to get you set up and going with a buffer and compound!!


Yes. I am having the color matched. But I do believe an entire regel is in order. There are alot of areas - smaller but many - that need repaired on the hull and I think it would be better to regel the entire boat.

So, once it's all wetsanded and all of the repairs are made, what prep is required before I regel?

I'll post a few pictures along the way.
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That looks good. Keep the pictures coming. I've got to learn how to do this wet sanding. My Mustang needs it and I've got this thin film of varnish that needs removing.
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Michelle,
Looking good!! Are you proceeding with having the gel color matched?

After that, we'll need to get you set up and going with a buffer and compound!!


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Thanks, Tim. A few repair areas are in order for the dogbox, but nothing too major. I am proof that anyone can do almost anything if they have the desire and willingness to learn.
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I was going to say that its about time we saw some pictures... looking good! Love that yellow, by the way.
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One dogbox!

In progress



Stripped and wetsanded! YAY!
Look Pete and Tim, it's yuckytan yellow....

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Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

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Thank you for doing what you do to keep all of us safe. Sorry to hear you'll be gone for the holidays. But what the hell, you'll still have fingerprints

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LOL! He's got you all fooled, he wanted to go. He is partying Guam style, plus when he gets back he will have a shiney yukytan yellow CC and a girl with smooth hands!
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Hi Pete!

I haven't heard from you for a while, which means I'm doing ok with the boat so far! Really, it's the time consuming part of the project.It's ok...I'm enjoying the therapy

I know I said it before, but I have a hard time wearing gloves. I like to feel the work area that I'm sanding and gloves screw that up. But, being that I have no fingerprints and the splits hurt badly, I will wear them for a while.
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Originally posted by sanity sanity wrote:

all wetsanded to perfection (as well as my left finger prints GONE)!Yes, I am using a block, but the paper covers the side too.


Michelle,
Been there many a time. You always know when the water you are using for wet sanding starts to turn pink!!!

John, Keep up the good work. You're in our prayers.


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Thank you for doing what you do to keep all of us safe. Sorry to hear you'll be gone for the holidays. But what the hell, you'll still have fingerprints

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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

came back with recipes of thier food.... I'll pass on the Guam food.   


Eric,
What do they eat in Guam??? No pizza huts?
I know he's eating well and enjoying all of the fish. Not to mention the 90 degree temp.and girls in bikini's.
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absence makes the heart grow fonder, my brother in law was stationed in Guam, he is in the chair force lol, he came back with recipes of thier food.... I'll pass on the Guam food. Blink be safe, and it seems as if you have someone that cares alot about you
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What a pleasant surprise
Since you have been gone, Moj has given me a new nickname of Powder Puff Girl.
The primer is completely gone, the dogbox is all wetsanded to perfection (as well as my left finger prints GONE)!Yes, I am using a block, but the paper covers the side too. Gloves on for the duration. I started wetsanding the hull. It's looking great! And yes...I still like the yellow.
It's snowing here again. Pretty, but you know how fond I am of the cold.
I'm keeping myself busy and everyone else is trying to do the same. I'm missing you.
The Mustang might be half way done by the time you come home.
Thank you for protecting all of us. The kids and I feel safe and secure.
Tell the "guys" hi.
We love you and we miss you!!
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Hi sanity I miss you just a note to say hi to all on cc forums from guam. thanks to all you guys for giving shell some great advice.
BTW looks like I lost my 82-2001 to sanity
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Pete, More horn information from my cousin. This is still general and doesn't refer "just" to cc's.

The CG publishes a book called " Navigation Rules" which is updated with minor rule changes often.
However the basic Inland Rules have been in effect since 1980 when the Great Lake Rules, the Western River Rules, the Motor Boat act of 1940 and various pilots rule were pulled together and put in effect December 24, 1981.
The Nav Rules book describes the international rules on the left page and the US inland rules on the right page.
The essential difference is when a vessel in international waters signals with one short blast it means "I AM altering my course to starboard." you aren't asking ,you are doing it.
When a vessel in US inland waters signals with one short blast it means "I INTEND to leave you on my port side." In other words you are going to do it unless you get a Danger signal (five short blasts) from the other vessel.
All the rules in this 215 page book are for the purpose of preventing collisions between vessels.
Sound producing devices such as whistles, bells, gongs, horns, and fog horns, are the required items. The length and type of boat dictates what your specific vessel must have on board, and in workable condition, to be in compliance with Coast Guard regulations.

Boats under 39.4 feet long, need only a horn or whistle (athletic whistles are acceptable).
For instance if you use a whistle be sure you have the wind power to, for instance,
produce a prolonged (four to six second blast) meaning you are leaving the dock followed by three short blasts if you are backing out.
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Now my favorite factory installed horn of all time was the dual trumpet deck mounted horn


Absolutely especially under bridges! My X has one. The first 10 years I had it, I was able to get the large Freon (probably R12) tanks but of course that ended. My solution was finding two 30lb tanks of a obscure Freon type here at the plant that was no longer used (the equipment had been removed). Mounting one under the bow deck and then adapting the solenoid valve via a short piece of double flared copper tubing. Unfortunately the copper couldn't handle the rough ride and vibration creating leaks. I tried it a second time with the other tank of Freon with the same result. Doing it over again I'm not sure if I'd try to go with hose inplace of the copper or go the compressor route. One thing for sure , with the compressor you need a decend unit and a rather large surge tank for the air. Using one of the small compressors for the automotive aftermarket air horns isn't the way and the large Buell compressors get pricy!


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I am saying the atom is an inboard and therefore relatively expensive as are all inboards. I have spent considerable time on a motorized coast guard approved vessal from every five year period from 1940 to the present day without a factory installed horn. It would have been an unreasonable requirement on boats that only had starters as optional equipment. A lot of the add on/dealer install electric start kits on 50s-60's outboards came with a dash plate with a big emblem in the middle , a key switch, a horn button and more rarely a light pull switch. It was assumed that you would add those options now that you would have a battery onboard.

Now my favorite factory installed horn of all time was the dual trumpet deck mounted horn factory installed in an early 60's lyman outboard given to a summer camp I worked for, it had a good sized replacable freon tank, and an electric solenoid valve operated by a dash button. Not environmentaly friendly but an unmistakeable tone, never sounded the same once we ran out and switched to compressed air.
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Originally posted by JoeinNY JoeinNY wrote:

Pete my friend you are really reaching on this one. You spent too much time around expensive inboards.


Joe,
Are you saying the Atom is a expensive inboard? Why does Michelle's Mustang have the below deck horn too? I'm not "reaching" just want to find out some history. I'm very aware of present day regs.
I too had my share of small outboards. I grew up in a 14' Alumacraft. I also remember in the 60's having to carry a hand held air horn with me!!


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Pete my friend you are really reaching on this one. You spent too much time around expensive inboards. The actual regulations on what the boat must have underway has always varied depending on type and length of vessel as well as where it is operated (inland vs open water varies as well as state to state). Coast Guard regulations on boat manufacture I am quite certain never required anything like a battery powered horn. I have been on dozens and dozens of small outboard boats of all ages that dont have battery's much less horns. A battery powered horn on a sailboat with a kicker or even a small inboard would be simply underheard of in any era as well.
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Michelle,
I got a little more detailed in my question.

"The question came up on correctcraftfan.com whether the boat manufacturers were required to supply horns on boats. Through the years it seems that there were times like the 50's they did and then in the 60's no and then the 70's yes again! I know present day regulations require that you simply need something on board and even a whistle will do. I do know the sirens that were popular in the 60's were banned!!!"


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