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aokcaldwell ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: October-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 95 |
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First timer, 37 years old, make sure you're with a good instructor. I am 42 and learned by kicking off a ski. When I was properly taught my 1st deepwater start with the proper instructions, an experienced driver and the right conditions, it was easier than getting up on two skis. Technique and form will save your arse and is the key to longevity. I can't remember the last time I did not get up on a deepwater start let alone a boom. Suggestion, invest in a good wetsuit, wear neoprene shorts underneath your wetsuit, buy a good barefoot rope, get instruction from an experience footer and get a good driver, otherwise you may get pulled through some serious rollers and be launched into orbit! You will be fine if you listen to this thread, they all have great suggestions.
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75 Tique ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-12-2004 Location: Seven Lakes, NC Status: Offline Points: 6119 |
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OK since all the oldtimers are chiming in, I guess I will too, and until JBear gets home tonight, at 55, I think I am, momentarily, the senior ambassador. I guess the point of the seniors division offering opinions is that we are not quite as resiliant as we were 30 years ago, and we still find it worth the occasional ache or pain. I included Alan's response becasue its similar to mine. Multiple broken ear drums, a few days in the hospital with 31 stitches holding my heal back on, too many bell ringers to mention, back surgery (not directly related, but based on the timing of the symptoms that led to it, I would certainly say related, pulled hammies/groin just 2 summers ago, learning back deeps. The most common things, I would guess, are the bell ringer falls, which get your attention, but really arent too bad. Last fall I was taking some runs with a very experienced skier, but who had little exposure to barefooting. According to my son, who was driving, Peter was pretty amazed that I kept getting up and going for more after each fall. He thought each one was a run-ender, but to us, they were just another fall. Right now I am counting the days (estimated to be 87) till I get back out there and break in my new Barefoot Central neck brace. Can't wait!! |
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“So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
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quinner ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-12-2005 Location: Unknown Status: Offline Points: 5828 |
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All good advice above, keep in mind that one painful aspect you cannot do anything about is the burn of your feet, this does get better the more you foot but is mostly unavoidable.
I will also agree that WB falls can hurt like a mofo but they do not make my top three, have had a couple slalom falls at max velocity that have left me seeing stars like never before, my number one brain and body scrambler however was on the Sky Ski, only made it around 75% on a flip with big Air, hit so hard my feet even came out of the bindings that you shouldn't come out of, took me quite a while to shake those cobwebs off. |
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TX Foilhead ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-01-2009 Location: Kingsland TX Status: Offline Points: 2076 |
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Wakeboards are evil! I don't think the falls are any worse than what I can do to myself on a foil, but the wakeboard is more likely to do more substantial damage to your knees and ankles, and they happen much more frequently, at least in my case. I can see where the lack of equipment attached to a barefooter and speed keeps them from digging in an wrenching something as easy as you would with the slower speeds in other sports.
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skicat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-18-2006 Location: Duluth, GA Status: Offline Points: 1129 |
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Sounds sort of like my goal Alan. This pic was last year at the lanier get together & my first time footin for about 15 years. Felt great even if it hurt! Have fun with it.
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81nautique ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5777 |
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***************, kap just reminded me that I've been knocked out once, broke my eardrum twice and broke my ankle once, that may be where my dizzyness comes from....but WTF "man up" and get out there.
All the above comes from being 21 and Hollywood balls to the wall crazy about footin. And those injuries came before we had a boom and no one to learn from, all trial and ERROR! haha I'm getting stoked just thinking about it. |
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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kapla ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: March-27-2008 Location: BA, Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6148 |
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In my little experience on barefoot I haven´t got any fall I can say it really hurt..they look bad to see..you are in the feet and suddenly you are in the water haha but they are no hard..since I started I only had 2 bad falls and i felt the pain in the lower back..The scorpion i think they are called. But the pain went away inmediatelly
As Alan my worst fall were on a wakeboard..I even fainted once and was left floating face in the water for a couple of seconds until the boat came up to rescue me...I was carried in an ambulance to the hospital....bad experience!!! And a couple of time the hit was so hard I lost the memory for a few minutes... |
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86BFN ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July-28-2008 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 882 |
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It doesn't have to be so painful as many have stated.
besides "Pain is Temporary, Glory is Forever" ![]() BTW: I'll be 48 this year and do not plan on giving it up until I can no longer physically do it any more. Just like.... ![]() To bad they can't invent meds to get you up barefootin' ![]() |
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13512 |
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Most painful falls I've had were on the wakeboard too, well the fall started on the wakeboard at least. Footing has caused plenty of eye peelers, bell ringers, scorpions, sack tears on failed 2 ski jump outs, shoulders yanked hanging on through falls (try not to do this anymore)... Then, you want to go backwards and suffer through another set of crashes!
Take the learning slow and surround yourself with [good] instruction, you'll do fine! |
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GottaSki ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: April-21-2005 Location: NE CT Status: Offline Points: 3340 |
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I have lots of time footing but not much wakeboarding, but found the typical wakeboard forward toeside slap to be more violent than a typical barefoot forward biff feet-to-face. The BF is more spectacular and more style points awarded. Albiet i 1-foot at 36 mph, not 41.
I no longer foot but thats due to sinus irritations than the pain. The guys who taught me well are all 60+ and they are still going strong and putting on a clinic. Technique conquers all. At age 37 its beginning time you best not figgure it out the techniques the hard way, one needs an experienced driver/instructor to begin enjoying the barefoot experience. |
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tullfooter ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: March-02-2007 Location: White Lake, MI Status: Offline Points: 2225 |
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I'll be 47 next week. I've been footing since I was 13. I will tell you that the hardest falls I've taken have been wakeboarding. It's just like the snowboarding falls. With both feet locked in, there is less time to prepare for the hit. I ski on a show team, and one of the tricks I do (mainly because none of the young guys want to do it) is the two ski jump out. When this trick goes wrong, the falls are yard sale caliber. It's great if your a spectator, but it sucks being the footer. But, that being said, I still contest that wakeboard falls are more spooky, especially on the knees. |
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WakeSlayer ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: March-15-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2138 |
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You also will frequently skip across the water on a barefoot crash. not so much at 22-23mph with a big piece of fiberglass strapped to you.
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WakeSlayer ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: March-15-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2138 |
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That is awesome. I plan to be so lucky. I have not kneeboarded since an injury in 2006 and, at least in my head, plan on riding again this year. I am 43, and definitely do not heal as fast as I used to. I think once you have the ability to barefoot you are a lot less likely to fall or get hurt as opposed to boarding in general. No one just rides a board around, you always want to try something new or big. And then there is the edge that acts like a lever and will pound you off the water like no other i.e. Alan's description. Even take a barefoot cilnic. I have taken a few from Lane and it will improve your ability and confidence so you won't even worry about the occasional digger. |
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81nautique ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5777 |
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I'm a few months away from 50 and I'll tell you that the hardest fall I took last year was on a darn wakeboard. I faceplanted harder than I ever have footing, it actually sent me to the boat and I sat out the rest of the day. I don't think I've ever hit so hard.
I will add I rarely have a fall footing that actually hurt, it's more of a bell ringer than pain and usually goes away pretty quickly. Every once in a while I'll come up dizzy from a faceplant, I've noticed I don't have the resistance to the dizzyness like I did when I was younger. Don't afraid to give it a try because of the falls, just get out with someone that knows what they're doing and the falls can be minimalized. At the very least grab Lane Bowers dvd because it has driving tips that may be helpful. ps. I sat out last year because of an unrelated injury but I plan to foot on my 50th birthday this summer and hope to do it again in another 10 years. |
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eric lavine ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: August-13-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13413 |
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take up knitting cause it only gets worse, you become the driver instead of the driven as time goes on
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Tomski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: October-19-2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 227 |
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I've been wondering about this for a while and as it's winter I lack useful things to occupy me, so the question is - how much does a barefoot fall hurt?
I think about the pain a good crash at wakeboard speeds - 21-22 mph in my case - can inflict (I'm usually just about better from last weekend in time for next weekend) and I wonder how you guys cope? I'm 37 and can definitely feel that i don't bounce like i used to, some of you guys are, with all respect, a bot more than 37. I'm now wondering if I'm just soft and have a low pain threshold? Let me into your secrets. Tom |
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