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jbear
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Man that looks sweet Greg...what a job!
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"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
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BuffaloBFN
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This one speaks for itself...
Taylor cable...thanks Tim! That ID tag is begging to show through?!!? |
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BuffaloBFN
Grand Poobah Joined: June-24-2007 Location: Gainesville,GA Status: Offline Points: 6094 |
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We're fine...how about you? From what I heard on the radio, it was pretty close to you and the big marinas. It's not everyday that the guy on the radio stops in mid sentence and says " OOOO, this is bad"...and with clear emotion in his voice. Next we hear "tornado on the ground" and they started tracking its path. |
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skicat
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Buffalo, you guys make it thru the storms ok?
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Bremsen
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I purchased marine wire/connectors from both Genuinedealz.com and Skycraft Surplus last year. Wire, terminals, etc get expensive fast (especially with large gauge) and these places were about as cheap as I could find.
Tim, you gotta do something about that alt bracket. Such an eyesore on an otherwise beautiful mill you got there. Maybe something like this?.... Pics, Part Numbers |
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BuffaloBFN
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Thanks Pete, spot on as always. I did a little digging and reading and have more to do. I see the diff in the coated marine wire and thanks for setting me straight. I probably should have known there would be a difference but was clueless. I wonder how many boats don't go together with the collection of knowlege from you and others on this site?!!? I expect to be riding high on the water with a great reduction in the weekend headache catagory!
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8122pbrainard
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Greg, The boots: Ok, now I know what you are referring to. If you can salvage the old ones, then I would. If not, a little dielectric grease at the connection will go a long way. In fact, I have seen lots of green (copper corrosion) under rubber boots and feel that sometimes you are better of leaving them off. Won't trap any water condensation!
If you do end up making your own harness, I would use tinned marine grade wire. Sta-kon is a trade name for a solderless terminal that stuck as slang or a general term for any solderless terminal. Like Kleenex is to tissue! There are solderless terminals out there that have adhesive lined heat shrink boots already on them. I do know Mcmaster, some auto parts and some marine supplies carry them. |
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BuffaloBFN
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Your .02 is well taken. I don't mean to cheap out...I just don't know so much about wiring. My plan is to remake this harness with soldered connections and shrink boots, but I'll do some reading first. The plug from the 351 harness is the same as my old dirty one. I was thinking of starting there unless a better plug is out there somewhere.
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boat dr
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Buffalo,
Theres FAST Theres SLOW and you can always do the job HALF/FAST....... No one said this hobby/addiction was cheap,suck it up and do her right. In the end you make the CORRECT choice . Pete is our electrical " know all" and this is not a place to go cheap...my .02 Boat dr |
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BuffaloBFN
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The ones that go over the connection at the oil pres sender, water temp sender, and alternator, etc. What's a sta-con? Is that the male and female wire end connectors(tabs)? I need plated ends and marine wire?!!? I'm hearing cash registers in my dreams now! LOL |
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8122pbrainard
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Greg, As far as wire wearing out, you know it doesn't but corrosion is a issue. Just like the cheap turf type carpet CC used, they used the bottom line cheap wiring and still do. Non tinned non marine grade wire. Non plated "Sta-kons" and cheap harness connectors. When I got my Tique, I had gauge (voltage drop) issues. I went after the wiring, cleaned/dielectric greased, changed out the non plated .250 quick disconnect Sta-kons and picked up something like 1.2 volts at the dash!
What boots are you talking about? |
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BuffaloBFN
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Thanks Tim, those will help a lot! You're 'johnny on the spot' with those diagrams, and it looks to be the same SBC>BBC.
Anyone just happen to have a new BBC wiring harness? I have a new harness for the 351 that I've had for a while that I would trade. Otherwise, I may use it for parts to make a new one. Does wiring wear out...assuming it's not broken and still has a weather seal? Does anyone know where to find the small composite washers that the boots fit to? Of course, my choke migrated to the other side. LOL |
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TRBenj
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Greg, assuming PCM wired the BBC the same as the SBC, the tach feed came from the (-) side of the coil. You will need to connect that wire to the DUI. Yes, the 12V ignition wire (purple) goes to the other terminal on the DUI.
Here are some comparison pics with and without the DUI, and how to bypass the resistor. You can completely remove it if you want. |
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BuffaloBFN
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You guys crack me up...Tim, I think you got the short end of that stick?!!? The cable will stay over the top!
Here's a couple of pics of my wiring harness. The directions on my fancy new distributer say I need to run a 12 gauge wire to the ignition. This would be to the (ign) post? Also, I had a (+) and (-) going to my coil and a resistor that needs to be removed per instructions. The resistor is the ceramic piece with the purple wires attached? Where does my tach feed come from on the factory set up? The other post on my dist. is for a tach or diagnostic hook up. |
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TRBenj
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You mean that thing floats and runs? I thought it was still in pieces! You really think the BFN will be faster than the Skier? I like my chances against the BFN better! |
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skicat
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No, actually I bought the skier so there would be at least one you could run with! |
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Hollywood
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Tim, I hope that's not the same line you use to pick up women!
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TRBenj
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Is that why you had to go buy that BFN? Because of that itsy-bitsy 273 in your Skier? My 351w may be a small block, but it puts out big block power! |
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skicat
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But Tim that little thing doesn't count. Greg is talking about a motor for the Big Boys Club
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TRBenj
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Agreed. |
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JoeinNY
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Thats actually a pretty typical late model inboard arrangement, transmission up and over the motor, throttle under and around from the back.
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87BFN owner
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Sorry buffalo but if I remember right, that is how mine is routed as well.
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skicat
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Buffalo,
Mine is an 86 & it is just down the road from you on Holiday Rd. Let me know if you need to see anything. I doubt there is much different as far as that kind of stuff is concerned. |
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BuffaloBFN
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Who else has 1 in my year range...Tull, Foot? Mine was routed accross the top of the engine and I'm hoping this isn't the way it's supposed to be. |
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87BFN owner
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Buffalo, the boat is my dad's right now. it will be home this week end happy to give you any pics you need. As for the cable routing I will have to look at it, been a long winter.
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BuffaloBFN
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No worries 87. I didn't take anything as being rude and thanks for the compliment! My last part is the flame arrestor and I can't wait to see it. My regards to Woody if he sees this...super fine guy!
I'll have some questions for you when I get to the reinstall point. For starters, how is your trans cable routed? I'm not sure if mine was correct or not. Also, was your set up basically the way the factory put it? And what are the odds of you having some pics to that end? Don't worry guys, I took tons of pics before I took anything apart. I even tried to take wierd angle pics, and I recommend this for anyone taking on a first time project. Break's over...back to the patch! |
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87BFN owner
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Buffalo,
Please excuse me for being rude, that was not my intent. The motor looks sweet. I wish you the best for a problem free install. Nothing better then putting a fresh engine with no problems other then fine tuning. |
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BuffaloBFN
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On a lighter note, what I think is my very last engine part is on its way from Woody. I'll try to get a clear pic up when it comes in.
Amy is happy about this! LMAO |
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JoeinNY
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It is messy now, no offense to anyone involved but this is certainly nothing for BuffaloBFN's thread at this point, please start another one if you must....
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87BFN owner
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Eric, you don't want me to go into anything on this site. AS it will get very messy for you my friend. I was being civil and thought the comment on the wave warrenty was funny. I was leaving our business in the dark. But if you want me to bring it to light I will bring it and the pictures so you tell me what you would like to have happen.
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