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Hi Mike,
Don't short change yourself - you could do it. I am proof that anyone can. Just a "want" I guess.Tyvek? LOL...I looked like a teletubby.
Wacko, I'll keep the pictures coming as I move along. Now, on to step 101!
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Wow 'Chelle.

You are amazing. I cannot believe your determination on this project.
I just don't think I could tackle that project. Good for you for putting your head down and just doing it.

It looks awesome, keep the pictures coming.
Love the Tyvek shot, too

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Wow that looks great. I really appreciate you posting all the pictures.
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BTW, Pete, I sent you a text yesterday. Did you receive or did I text a stranger? LOL
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

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you can learn something every day of your life and still die stupid!!


LOL, I like that, Pete! Yes, it'll be sanding time for a while. I have a huge stash on hand in different grits. I am excited. It's on - it's gelled! No major mishaps, just a little frustration!
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Michelle,
Congratulations on making it over another hurtle/learning curve. Which reminds me, you can learn something every day of your life and still die stupid!! Keep it up!

I feel you should start with more aggressive paper. I've started with 320 wet to knock down the orange peel. You'll be there forever with the 600. Just be very careful! Start on the bottom until you get the feel for it. Don't worry if you sand through the new gel in a spot. It happens! And you just have to shoot the spot again and blend.

On any surface close to flat, I find a hard block (wood) sanding block will level better. I also feel I can get more "feel" to stop pressure with the wood. IE: If you know you have a high spot, you can direct more pressure there. With a rubber block I don't get that feeling.



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Can't start sanding till Monday.
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I think the wax has something to do with keeping the gel from being tacky so you can sand it.

Wet sanding...cant be in a hurry.. crank some tunes and enjoy!
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Originally posted by 62 wood 62 wood wrote:

Michelle,

What grit paper do you start with? How long does it have to cure before starting? You ever wet sand before? Lots more fun to come!
It looks great.   

Thanks Steve,
Per Fibreglasts's instructions, I am to use 600 dry, then 600 wet. Depending on what it looks like after using the 600, I may use a finer grit. It has to cure 24-36 hours. Yes, I have wet sanded. I enjoy that. In the last 2 pictures I posted, you can see the wax. I was told it had something to do with the "cure". I'm curious what purpose it has.
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OK, the magic "yuckytan yellow mix".
The neutral gel coat was from Fibreglast.
I noticed that different manufacturers supplied different colors of tint.As long as it was a poly tint, it was compatible with the Fiberglast gel coat.
For 1 gallon of neutral gel coat I used 1 oz. of Maize Yellow from US Composites, 1/4 tsp. of White from US Composites, 3 drops (from an eye dropper) of Red from Fibreglast, 1 drop of Blue from Fibreglast and 2 drops of Brown from Fibreglast.
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Michelle,

What grit paper do you start with? How long does it have to cure before starting? You ever wet sand before? Lots more fun to come!
It looks great.   
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I started at 12:30ish and did not finiah until 10:00. I wiped everything down with acetone again before I started. I made the magic mix, suited up and went to work. Being "neutral" gel coat, the first coat did not cover the areas where the repairs were made. I put 4 coats without wax and the 5th and final coat with wax. The gun needed cleaned quite a bit because I had to wait between sprays. By 7:00, the "waiting" for the compressor was frustrating. Then the breaker kept popping. God was testing my patience.
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I don't know where to start! I have alot of sanding to do!
Applying the gel coat was not a bad job. I used the gel gun with a #6 nozzle. I did try thinning a pint at one point and putting through the auto spray gun and did not like that at all. I liked working with the gel "unthinned" with the gel gun. Does it go on smooth? No, but it does go on thick and it does dry quickly. I was more concerned about getting it on and having it cure correctly than I was about it being exceptionally smooth. It has to be sanded anyways.
The only frustrating part for me was that the air compressor could not keep up because my hose developed a leak. I mixed half pints, sprayed it on, unplugged the hose and had to wait for the air compressor to "catch up". Yeah, that was bad!
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Final coat...wax coat. I took these this morning

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Hey Steve!
OK, I'll get to the details. Let me finish with the pics then I'll tell you all the fun stuff!
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Hmmmm....I don't think I ever looked better. OMG..
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cans with my magic mix
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WOOOOOWWWWWW! You ever think about getting rid of that ugly color...you know, maybe painting it red?!

NICE !!! how'd it spray?..fill us in on the details!
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OK, so it was scary when I saw what the neutral gel coat looked like.

I had the Color sample on hand to match my magic mix.

The yuckytan match (my match) in a bucket and ready to gel

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First thing first..check picture size!
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Pete, that's a great idea. There is a dehumidifier in the basement that the previous owners left. I never even plugged it in. Additional security!
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Michelle,
You may what to consider getting a dehumidifier
in your gel "tent". This time of the year (spring) it will maintain a consistent humidity. It's not a bad idea for summer ether. In summer, I use the "red neck" method for keeping my garage/shop cooler and drier - a box fan in the doorway from the air conditioned house!! It surprisingly does a great job!


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So, I have been patiently waiting and watching the weather daily for the rain to go away. I see a break on Saturday and Sunday. Keep your fingers crossed. If the sun shines all day as predicted on Saturday, Sunday should be good. My cut line is from the rubrail. I'll sand, buff and wax on weeknights, then we can flip back over and I'll gel the top.
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Originally posted by sanity sanity wrote:

Still waiting on the rain to go away.


Want to trade for the 4-7" of snow predicted tomorrow? Good thing, it cant last too long!


Cant wait to see "The Mix"! take those pics!
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Thanks Greg. I will take alot of pictures. I have been documenting everything. Still waiting on the rain to go away.
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Sanity, I also am enjoying your 'get-after-it-ness'! You are an inspiration even to those of us who are as Pete might point out(and might be?!!?) a touch over the line!

I'm still waiting on the official definition of over the line...    LOL

Seriously, I have gel-cote in my future so please take lots of pics and post your notes!   
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I tried to send him a few donna cd's...   
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LOL...as long as there is a toll free number for special friends and family.
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