US Economy - American Manufacturing

lets turn the IRS into a different name and call it the lottery...maybe, the mindset would change with a chance to win some cash back, have you ever got stuck behind someone in line buying lottery tickets...many dump hundreds

I wish I would have gotten my teaching degree! 3 months off in the summer. Every water skiers dream! Also would have had job security.

Our founding fathers can't be smiling.

How many weeks/year do people have for vacation over there Kristof? I haven't taken a week in 3 years, and I have not had 2 off together in over 30 years. Maybe higher taxes isn't such a bad idea?

BuffaloBFN wrote: Please elaborate! By the way, I didn't forget about you. Minicraft said they'd get back with me but haven't. I'll call them again.

Greg, about 60% of our gross wages go into taxes. But on the other hand... We have free medical care, unemployment help, pension funds,... All regulated by the government.

Thanks for keeping the heads up with Minicraft. No stress, my friend, as I am happy that the boat runs like a charm (which was my first priority for this ski season). The cosmetic work to restore her to her total glory is a project spread over the next two years...

BuffaloBFN wrote: eric lavine wrote: plus the taxes would create a stronger government, and less burden on the citizens Say What?!!? OMG, WTF?!!?

Sounds crazy to you guys, but nothing new in our parts...

plus the taxes would create a stronger government, and less burden on the citizens

Im in Aurora Ohio, many friends from the stamping plant.
its a double edged sword, its the competition that drives the price.
at one time the fairing may have been $500.00 which is reasonable, now you got a company that can make it for less, so the 10,000 of these $500.00 fiarings arnt selling anymore because you can buy them for $250.00 from China, it hurts the company's bottem line and all its employees, to compensate for the shortfall they have to raise the price to $1000.00.
you need the same volume or you have to raise the price. now the hong congers see this and say they are getting $1000.00 for these fairings, instead of $250.00 lets charge them $750.00 and they will still buy.
the same philosophy works in the auto industry.
thats why i said in a post if we stuck to the plan, cars would be 12,000 today insted of $25,000

eric lavine wrote: Chrysler parking lot in the morning

Eric, where do you live? We have the Belvidere Assembly Plant (Chrysler) about 20 minutes away from our house. I assume the parking lot looks the same here. Sad, but makes me mad that all the union workers are still getting a pay check. Salaried people are all collecting unemployment.

Doggone it Pete, Eric is exactly who I went fishing for!   LOL

I had forgotten the joke until the 'grandmother' where I get my hair cut started passing out a sonogram of her foot as a baby. She got 2 people with that...I got everyone there!

Remind me to tell the whole story at GL.

If you paid a little less, you could spend a little more.

I'm surprised you aren't worried about the dihydrogen monoxide...

eric lavine wrote:    shty schools, snow on the streets, no leave pick up, no rec center

I have been paying taxes for the last 35 years and still have (or do not have) these listed items. Guy with a tractor down the street moves the snow off the road, if he is bored. I have to haul my own leaves off. I pass Rec Centers in the high end neighborhoods or in towns that are too far away.

So are you saying my taxes should be lower than yours ?? I bet they ain't....

Brackets on income, straight sales tax across the board, lets say 10%.
2 things are certain my friends, taxes and death, in my eyes it is a privlidge to drive in this country and pay taxes in this country...the first pothole you guys hit on a federal interstate, you would blame the government, the governments source of income is taxes, fck you hand the old lady $100.00 bill and dont think twice about.
this country is what it is because of taxation.
now that Chrysler is gone in our city, so is the tax base, shty schools, snow on the streets, no leave pick up, no rec center
taxes are a part of life....Chrysler is not gone because of taxation its gone because no one was buying. thats the way it works. these companies close and the revenue from them goes along with it, how do you make up the revenue? from the city all the way up to the federal government

eric lavine wrote: what can be done to spur new business or create jobs?

Man! Have you guys not heard what Greg (Buffalo) has been screaming?!?! FAIRTAX

I know you want brackets, Eric, but the FairTax does not work that way. Can you imagine the checkout girl at the grocery store asking you how much money you make so she knows how much tax to charge you??? That is just rediculous. If you want to stimulate business, cut all taxes for doing business int he US. When businesses prosper, they hire more workers. Those workers buy cars, eat out, just like you explained Eric, trickle down. I do not understand how the current administration figures that they can save us from our current econemy by raising taxes. Even taxing the rich is stupid. They are the ones creating jobs. And, I know what you are going to say, but I don't care. The rich need/want to make a certain amount of money, so if you tax them a bunch, what are they going to do? Lay off a few people to cover the new tax you just levied against them. This is not that hard.

Think about it this way, Eric. If your company did not have to pay any taxes, how much more money would you have to play with? Maybe you could lower your prices to attract new business and then hire a new mechanic to support the new business and so on and so on. It really is that simple.

Sorry, I will shut up now.

8.30 in the morning... Either your camera or you are not telling the truth...

But anyway, it's a shame to see that parking empty.