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71Nautique
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Wow! Thanks a lot for the help! I never came up with anything other than looking at the stuff from Taco. I'm going to call this place, Tape-Ease in Wisconsin on Monday morning. Thanks again - Larry
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8122pbrainard
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71Nautique
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Discussion on locating the correct aluminum T trim for the flooring seemed to stop after April 7. Has anyone located a source for this material? I looked into Taco Metals, but they only have a smooth top T trim and the bottom is too long and would have to be sawed off. My '71 SN and '68 Barracuda both have ribbed T trim that is 7/8" wide on top (the A measurement) and 7/16" deep (the C measurement). The Barracuda is missing all the sections forward of the engine. Please let me know if anyone has any advice on this. Thanks!
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MartyMabe
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Hey, why not get the 1 &1/4 ribbed ,if that's the only trim that can be found and trim about 1/8 or so off both sides. Wouldn't that work if no 'OE' size can be found?
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Keeganino
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I have not checked out taco. Have never heard of them but am headed that way in a minute.
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Riley
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Keeganino, when I say orginal, I'm thinking 1960's. I don't know what was in the 1970's.
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TRBenj
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Ill see if I can measure mine this weekend. Bruce is right that 1-1/4" is larger than original. I could swear that my '71 is bigger than 3/4" though. Id guess it was 1", but I could be wrong. Did you see if Taco Marine had anything like that?
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Keeganino
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That is a big difference. Can anyone else confirm the 3/4"? I know Tim was guessing. |
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Riley
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The 3/4" ribbed is what is original. The 1 1/4" is huge. Unfortunately they only have the 3/4" in the smooth top.
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Keeganino
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Riley- I have not actually placed my order yet. I just found the site last night thanks to Tim and Pete. I hope they have the ribbed since that is closer to the original.
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TRBenj
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Im guessing its the 1-1/4" grooved T-trim?
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Riley
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What trim did you order? When I ordered mine last year, they only had the smooth and not the ribbed.
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Keeganino
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I am ordering from Gary's. The samples they sent me are close enough to the original for me. I am going to use the above pictured "Shark" pattern on the floors. It will be $105 for four 72" wide yards delivered to my door. Their customer service has been great- answering my questions and quickly sending the samples I wanted to see.
The aluminum T trim is coming from Mcmaster.com |
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8122pbrainard
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Keegan, It's quite possible there's confusion. Wouldn't be the first nor the last time with me!! However, the people who are really confused are at the paint store like you mentioned! Going back to the on line sources posted earlier in the thread would be appropriate. Regarding the "Nautolex", It to me just looks too thin. Maybe someone else bought is making it now and they are making it thinner??? |
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Keeganino
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I think you guys are confused. Gary's has sent some people samples already and nobody is saying its fake. The incident Marty is talking about happened at a local paint store. I've been there, these guys don't have a clue, but have been around town long enough you would think they could point you in the right direction.
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Riley
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Is Gary's selling vinyl wallpaper as Nautolex? Someone ought to notify Nautolex!
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8122pbrainard
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Well, all I can say there has been plenty of "snickering and eye movements" once it was known CC used the stuff. Did they have vinyl wall covering or did you just walk out the door?? Maybe they don't carry it? They must wear street shoes and go dancing in there boats? I'd also question that sample of Nautolex you got. It looks too thin. |
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Keeganino
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Marty is near by and has some samples already so I hope to compare for myself soon. These look so close to what I have in the pictures. AWESOME! |
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Riley
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I'd say Nautolex is the ticket.
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MartyMabe
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Isn't this the place everyone's talking about where to get it?
Gary's Upholstery Products in Tampa,Florida. Also it's a sample of the Nautolex Marine Flooring. Hey by the way, I went to my wall covering place here in High Point,NC, Huffman's Paint and Wallcovering, they've been in business since 1948, Now get this- the guy said- Vinyl wall covering on the floor of your boat!? The 3 people looked at each other and gave the snickering and eye movements.They said, that in no certain terms that any wall covering would hold up on the floor of a boat.I told them I would bring them a piece someday and let them tell me what it was then. |
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8122pbrainard
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Marty,
I'm curious as to why you went to a upholsterer for vinyl wall covering? Does he handle the stuff? |
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Keeganino
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Thanks guys I will do that. I would not have known to look for those pieces if I had not found this amazing website! Cool stuff
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MartyMabe
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Here's my sample from Gary's . It's the sandstone color sample. Doesn't look very thick.
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TRBenj
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Boy, Id love to see that original sample compared to Nautolex "shark". The Nautolex may have a bit more black in it, but its pretty similar and the texture looks darn close. It might be worth requesting a sample for yourself to see how it compares side by side. http://www.garysupholstery.com/ntomarfloor.html |
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reidp
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No idea of its whereabouts. I had it from 1981 until only about '88. I was living in So Fla heavy into the salt water boating thing, never thinking I'd ever live back on fresh water. My dad was storing it for me and had a guy bug him for several years to buy it and I finally said OK. I'd done a very poor resto job on it as a college jr/sr. Originally had the Y-block 292 and Dearbo reduction with angle-drive similar to modern PCM 1.23. Had trans rebuilt, but still only ran while oil was cool. Heated up and slipped. Got tired of that quickly, found and installed a Merc 302-215 inboard to get the boat running consistently and that's what it sold with. THEN, I lost the 292 package in a storage deal. The things we do as kids. If only there'd been CCF back then. |
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Keeganino
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I used the poly brush and this sample cleaned up easily. Since it was entombed in the foam it is very well preserved. It is supple and flexible almost as if it were new. I think I have great evidence that this is the original material covering the floor. I can't imagine that on any wall anywhere that would look good! The late 60's and early 70's were sort of an interior design disaster. I can see why this would be the perfect floor for the boat though. It has a lot of texture and is very heavy duty. This angle shows how deep the texture is I am very happy with this sample. Great color! I started reading this thread before I cut out the floor so I was looking for scraps of vinyl still stuck to the floor underneath the carpet. Thank you CCF again! I think that is a ringer! |
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8122pbrainard
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This is probably your only safe approach. Anything that would attack the foam will go after the vinyl too. Don't spend too much time at it though. The scraps used may not even be the same material they used on the floor. Just take a look at the pictures in the thread again and then go out and see what's close. I think you'll be able to find a vinyl wall covering damn close and appropriate. Yes Reid, What happened to the Starflight? Do you know where it is now? "Y" block? |
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Keeganino
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Great story Reid- you did not sell the Starflight for that college bizzle did you? You had one!? My wife knows I am crazy and am going to do whatever I dream up anyway so there's not much point trying to stop me. If I want this boat to look like it did in 73 then I am going to be obsessed till it is. I am not letting go of the swim platform though. That is one of my favorite places to be. On the teak!
As for cleaning my idea right now is to get it nice and warm and use a polyester brush to try and remove the foam that is stuck to the finish. |
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reidp
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Keegan, my wife THOUGHT I was crazy back in 1997 when I bought our 3rd Correct Craft. Now she knows I am. But she's also been to 10+ CC owner reunions, met lots of great people and had tons of fun. So what does that make her? Tell your wife it all makes for a better relationship as you'll obviously have no time for bars and other women. Just hope though, that she doesn't take the road of a college girlfriend of mine who actually told me almost 28 yrs ago, that she thought I loved my '58 Starflight more than I loved her. I do miss the boat the most. |
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Keeganino
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I found 2 strips of what I believe to be some of the original vinyl flooring based on this picture by The Godfather. They were used to hold the air hoses in place before the foam was poured into the cavity. Any tips on getting the foam off of the surface so when I take it somewhere for a replacement they can see what it looks like? My wife thinks I am crazy getting all excited over this... What do Ya'll think |
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"working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger
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