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kapla
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Note that the heads from triste are remanufactured, but are like new...
You can also find them cheaper on ebay, but may need lots of work and end up paying more than the trista ones... |
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skicat2001
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Yes sir TR,
Over this summer I will be doing some studying on motor upgrades. I am somewhat mechanically inclined if it occurs with nuts bolts, a little muscle and sweet. But tearing a huge item apart like upgrade on cams and shafts, and heads, motor etc, I will have to learn more. Oil Change, possibly this tune up, or impellar, I can do, but some of the other real technical stuff I stay away from. Being on this site and being addicted to this site know, I see with these older boats, lots of problems with the fuel systems. |
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TRBenj
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All mid 70's and newer non-HO heads will take the Autolite 24's. The older 13/16" plugs are 124's or 45's. The HO (GT40) and GT40p heads both take Autolite 764's. Like Kapla said, for $1500 you can add about 80hp over stock. Before crossing that bridge, its recommended you have a pretty good understanding on how your engine works and how to maintain it properly. |
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Hey Seb, Wow! Thats not bad. I wuz thinking most upgrades that involve more than one big item like cams, or heads, would be expensive. But that is reasonable.. Maybe a great winter plan for next year.. |
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kapla
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for little more of a grand you can go the full H+C+I upgrade
heads, cam and intake... 600 plus shipping for a set of gt-40p heads from tristate. 265 for a cam research cam (In your case its a RR some price may vary) 200 or so for a new aluminum intake manifold... an another couple of hundres for misc parts..bolts, gaskets, paint, etc... Make sure your engine bottom end is in good shape..don´t want to end up with a rod pulling a hole in your new heads It will take you engine to little over 300hp... I did it and i´m quite happy..yet I´m still trying to sort some issues to take all the juice out of it. Anyway I felt a drastic improvement in the hole shot and pulling. That may also be due to the fact I removed almost 500lb wet foam from the hull |
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skicat2001
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Yes sir Chris,
You got the goodies on yours, huh.. Know mine is bone stock far as know.. I just like her to run fined tuned ALL the time.. I was thinking adding goodies to it, but dont really know how to upgrade for a cheap price. Or what can I add for a grand to see better performance?.. My mechanic I have asked him to do stuff to it, but he has told me if you got money to burn then do it, but upgrading can damage other parts.. etc.. Or he said you have to pay more attention to your motor and stay on top of it more than usual because of the upgrades.. Maybe one day! |
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provided that you had yours balanced, a comp-cams, some head works and some other goodies to kick out 315HP then yes they would have been the same but mine was never a stock motor and I bet yours is. |
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Yea I never I could figure out the like messing with ya, espcially if you know your stuff.. |
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if you use a 5/8 socket to remove your plugs then use the 24's if you have to use a 13/16 socket then use the 124's
I believe if you have the gt-40's or even the p version it's a 726 maybe and a 5/8 shanked plug as well but the heat range is a little different than the 24's due to compression ratio's, Tim is more familur with those plugs so the number is a shot in the dark regions of my skull,, besides Tim likes to correct me anyway so i have to throw him a bone once in a while |
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Hey Chris, All 351 Ford like the 78-86, dont they use the same kinda plugs. Same motors right.. When did they do upgrades to the 351 betweem then? Your 79 Nautique I bet got the same 351 in my 85.. Right.. |
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Agreed. In my '71 Skier, I run the 45's- I believe theyre very similar to the 124's. |
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24 is the correct plug if your heads use the 5/8" plug and are a little newer, 124 plugs are the older style that is 13/16" plug.
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Yea after listening to Chris and the others, I will stay away from NGK plugs.. I did some good research on them Autolite plugs, they show to be the plug..
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I am doing a tune up on my 71 Holman Moody 351. Amazingly the spark plugs seem to be original from the factory since there is blue over spray on the plugs. The plugs are Autolite BTF3M, which is hard to find. Through my searching I found the below link that references old Autolites to the newer models/numbers. The replacement part for me is an Autolite 124.
Hope this helps in you search for the right plug. Auto-Lite Cross Reference |
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I thought he was Chris... Some these guys one here you gotta watch..
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Hummm I believe he was just pulling your leg. But thanks for the correction I didn't realize it's Mycorrectcraftparts sorry for the confusion. |
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Oh ok.. Thanks TR..
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No, Boat Dr. requires that you pick up everything at his shop in Monterey, Louisiana. |
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Pete, Thanks, I will give him or his wife a hollar on this.. Can he ship pretty much anything? |
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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hey Chris, Not to be a nit picker but there is no such site as correctcraftparts.com , it redirects to some dealer in canada but it sure isn't Billy's site. He should chime in with the correct url but looks to me like he pulled it down or changed it. |
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Lee,
Billy is one of our members (boatdr). He's in the boat repair business and also the parts. His wife Karen sometimes answers but she can handle your parts needs too. I know they have a separate phone line for parts but I don't have it!! Try their main phone 318 386 2825 |
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I sure will Chris.. You say the guy is Billy who I will be talking too..
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get the model number of the distibutor and it's brand mallory or prestolite, call Billy get the right numbers for the cap and rotor and then order them from him or use the info and get them locally.
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Pete,
They dont say what brand they are.. They range here from 39.99 up to the 67.99.. Now, I notice there are different caps for V-8 motors, tall-cap, flat cap, clip cap, and a screw cap. The one I need is the tall cap rotor, and its price is 39.99 but I dont have the that type of ingition. But I will shop around, to see.. |
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Wow, $67 for a tune up kit??? Where do you think Overtons gets them? Probably just a Sierra kit. You can even get it from West Marine cheaper! Stick with a decent auto supply like Chris recommends and buy your ski equipement (or tubes) from Overtons. |
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Cool Chris,
I apperciate the advice, if I have problems, I will send you an email.. Thanks! |
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go to wal-mart, autozone, o'reily's any parts store in the us and get autolite 24's or the iridium version just don't try and gap the platnium plugs with a wire style gapper you have to use the ramp style gapper so you don't knock the platnium tip off of the plug.
also the cap and rotor you can get any where too nothing fancy about it just cross refernce the dist brand and number and your good to go or order them from correctcraftparts.com |
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