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8122pbrainard
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Posted: April-16-2011 at 6:30pm |
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It's a "fits all" engines (with a Velvet) plate so it's diameter is large enough to accommodate all 7 hole patterns of any flywheel. The Fords flywheel are smaller and that's why the trimming is needed. It may interfere with the starter nose. |
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Luchog
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What would be the benefit of a cut down version?
isnt it better if the plate is held farther outside the flywheel? |
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eric lavine
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Sachs is a very reputable company, owned i believe by Borg and Beck, they are a very durable plate....and are made in a civilized country
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TRBenj
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Good... 'cause thats all we're putting on! |
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8122pbrainard
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3 bolts is all it takes.
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TRBenj
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You only use 3 bolts regardless of whether its the cut down version or not, right Pete? I recall you saying that is just fine... only 3 bolts line up on our BFN/72C, whereas the original (round) damper took 6. |
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kapla
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I´m surprised on the origin of the plate..Brazil..is the center an automotive part or marine specific? |
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8122pbrainard
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The trimmed down version has less holes but you only use 3 bolts.
21 holes in the standard Sachs plate |
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Robb
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I had the same issue on my '74 and ended up buying the trimmed down Sachs (ALTDA-106A) from Basic Power for $90, but I was pressed for time. Also, you'll find that only 3 of the 6 bolts used on the factory damper will match up on the flywheel with the Sachs.
Is this your experience as well Eric? |
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bbishop1974
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i changed mine because i was rebuilding the trans.upon inspection i found it to be completely rotted around the springs and they were all exposed.the factory plate has them enclosed.
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eric lavine
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for reading purposes, when changing the damper, when at all possible, leave it finger tight and install the transmission to the engine and then come back in and tighten the bolts...this method will center the damper on the flywheel.
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TRBenj
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Is your engine or transmission already out of the boat? If so, swap the damper- its good preventative maintenance. Thats what we're doing on our BFN. If the powertrain is in the boat and you have no real need to pull it, Id be inclined to leave it be until it starts to act up. Having the plate on hand in case your original lets go isnt the worst idea in the world though- that way you can be back on the water quickly should it fail. |
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malibud
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not to hijack but I assume this will fit my 85' 2001, 351 velvet drive ? and my transmission works fine but I think it is all original should I replace the damper for preventive maintenance ?
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eric lavine
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e-basic must have some buying power, walmart of damper plates, hate volume buyers.
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eric lavine
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i have some coming in today
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bbishop1974
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thanks for the reply tim.i tried to purchase from ebasic and they were A-HOLES.dealt with 2 different people,would not take my order over phone and told me my computer was broken???long story but bottom line was i knew what i wanted and they made it rediculous.i gave up and bought the overpriced skidim unit out of frustration.
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8122pbrainard
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Gary,
With the 7 different hole patterns/centers, it's supposed to fit any flywheel with a B/W trans. (the number of spines matches the Velvet} The last one I put on the Tique and I did have to cut it down. I scribed the diameter, cut it on the band saw and then finished it off on the disk sander. The one I replaced on the Y block (same Sachs) did not need trimming. |
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Gary S
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So I assume this fits all Ford flywheels? If it does not you have to cut it down to the smaller size or shell out 30 bucks more and get the "a" ? I ask because I have never changed mine and I'm thinking for 60 dollars it might be a good idea
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TRBenj
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I didnt see anyone follow up, so I wanted to chime in and confirm what we all suspected (or knew but didnt explicitly say). The ALTA-106 damper available at ebasic power is in fact made by Sachs, though it is not called out on their website. Or maybe it is made by Alta with Sachs parts? Whatever- its the high quality damper Eric is always mentioning. Quite the deal for $60.
Sachs Damper at EBasicpower They also sell the cut down version mentioned above for a few bucks more. |
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bbishop1974
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thanks eric,i was guessing it was because it was the 14 inch.12 inch would be for older models
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eric lavine
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106a, has the edges cut....about 99% that is the one you need
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bbishop1974
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as always thank you for the quick reply .are these plates made by sachs?i see no mention of manufacturer.it looks like i will be digging out about 4 ft of snow to see what size flywheel i have.thanks again
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eric lavine
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da-106 or 106a...go to e basic power for now.
confusion always sets in..13 inch props wont break a sachs |
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8122pbrainard
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Brian,
Mer changed their web site all around and it seems the nice pictures/descriptions of the Sach's plates are gone. I've used several of the Sach's plates but of course didn't save the part numbers!!! The key is the number of splines that matches the Velvet. Then, the plates were "universal" with about 7 different hole patterns to bolt up to whatever flywheel. I've never heard of a strength issue with them. |
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bbishop1974
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could anyone help me verify sachs driveplate plate# for 86 SN 351,B/W VELVET DRIVE.i have seen it posted in past and wrote it down,part#80106,availible through MER equipment.i called to order it and they question wether it will be strong enough.i know Eric uses them.thanks for the help
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