1200 rpm warning light

all I can add, is if you want to survive in an economy like the one were in, or even to survive in business, there never ever is a word such as "no"

Walters is a dim lit candle waiting on a breeze, and i was very dis heartened when i got cut-off twice (you'll remember, I was Great lakes Power's service manager for 10 years) and it left a very bad taste in my mouth, i would never bash a company but it was a very unethical business practice when i got cut off. I dont do a ton of Walter's but i do my share and i do them because of trust.

the beef is he was quoted 2200 bucks and thats without seeing it, i did it for 1000.00 with a year warranty and im even thinking of kicking it up to 2 year warranty on all of my work because of confidence, im not going to reveal my parts sources because i dont want to get blacklisted again for not purchasing the special ground bearings, but an old man told me long ago, if you dont talk to her someone else will, i know there is a code of the road in business and I can appreciate that, but there is also profit margins in business, my phone rings everyday because of my ethics, im fair, im honest, ive been at it for 25 years, if i fck up i take care of the problems, ive recently even taken care of other peoples problem because the transmission was rebuilt in December and the warranty expired 90 days later, and it didnt work from the get go,
btw, I did it for free and you know what? 2 days later the marina called me to pick up a transmission and was told your the guy from here on out. thats how I work. I changed my mind if you want to try to blacklist me again me here are my suppliers, transmission marine, marysville marine, hale marine, harbour marine, federal marine.......like i said, if you dont talk to her someone else will...........eventually with a little research and building a trusting customer base, all roads lead to Brunswick lol, im just trying to make a living, im not getting rich but i feel i should treat people like how i want to be treated, thats all

I would just like to add that any 9 year old skateboarder knows the difference between ABEC 5 and ABEC 7 bearings. Just because Walters does not stamp the specs into the bearing does not mean that it can not be obtained elsewhere for less. They even make ceramic bearings for skateboards.

You guys went through this once already. Eric does not buy his parts at Walters, so what would the point of calling them be?

drtybrdy9 and Eric - If you don't mind me asking, what parts were replaced in this V-Drive and what was the cost of the repair?

After reading all the Walters bashing I decided to call them to find out about general repair costs, and get a reference on Eric. To the best of their knowledge, they have haven't sold Eric any parts in at least 10 years, so I have to wonder if he is using new or used parts? Walters tracks each parts order with the V-Drive serial number, so you can call them (201-656-5654) with the serial number of your V-Drive and they'll be able to tell you what parts were ordered.

I also asked about 8122pbraind's comment questioning "special bearings" inside Walter V-Drive. Walters suggested that I don't take their word for it, but that I should contact Timken Bearing company to verify that the performance codes are NOT stamped on the bearings. Apparently the performance codes identify the bearings tolerance on outside diameter, inside diameter, width and the type of honing of the races. They mentioned that bearing supply houses usually only stock general production bearings, not ones made with closer tolerances. If anyone doesn't think that bearing tolerances don't affect function or longevity, they should google "ABEC-7 precision bearings". Here's the best part: Walters gave me the Timken number of one of their bearings along with a price and I checked a bearing price online at Motion Industries.

Guess what, Walter's price is cheaper so what's the beef???

Everything went well this weekend. The only thing is at higher rpms there are noticeable vibrations. Is that probably because the bums at the marina didn't align everything properly?

Eric,
Thanks for all the help. We are going to pick up the boat tomorrow, it will be ready for the 4th of July weekend. Also, i think we ended up saving somewhere close to $1000 by sending it to you over Walters. Anyone having similar problems Eric is the place to go. I think the marina is even going to save your information for any future customers with transmission or vdrive problems.

really, the boxes are designed and built like the Space shuttle, but again, how many times do they delay the flights...its hard to put an hour number on the transmissions, alot depends on what happens to them in the boat

FWIW I have a friend (really, it isn't me) with the Walters in a 99, with a 502 that has somewhere in the neighborhood of 1350-1400 hours on it, never had a fluid change, and is still just fine. This thing has run pigged out with 2k plus of ballast the whole 12 years.

TX Foilhead wrote: Eric, do these things have a life expectancy, or do they just occasionally go out.

Only the Walters!!!! From an engineering standpoint the box is really a poor design that myself and Eric have commented on several times. The last I heard, which was a couple years ago, CC had phased the Walters out in all but one model and the word was that model too wasn't going to have the Walters in it for very long!!!

Depending on your hours, I'd start planning on one day getting it over to Eric. I'm sure he'll have some ideas on the hours.

Yank it yourself and send it to Eric.
There's no better way to learn about the boat then to take it apart and put it back together again.

8122pbrainard wrote: I'm also curious if they told you how long the colonoscopy proceedure would take?

You're going to feel a little discomfort now, sir.

Bwaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

i would bet they pulled it and called Walter's direct, its rare that a dealer rebuilds in house

drtybrdy9 wrote: the dealer called me back, the bearings are shot and there are metal filings in the v-drive. He said that we are looking at $2200 total to get it rebuilt. Does that sound resonable or are we getting screwed?

Ah yes, the special Walter's bearings as mentioned!!!

Eric can tell you about how far you need to bend over. Of course, it all depends on how truthful they are too!?