176 Rudder

I'm very late to the party here but just picked up a 176, she's a beaut! This might be a silly question, but when swapping out the rudder ports, for the 11-A, are the hole patterns identical?

IMOP Both rudders were minimal effective for slow speed maneuverability. I think spend the extra jing on a 11-A rudder and port it would be one of the best boat buy upgrade's one could do for that model!

Why you Ask. Because the CCF fan server lost all my old log on information and I could not access the web site with the old persona! For some reason it was troublesome so I just became another persona.
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bhectus wrote: phatsat67 wrote: I think I remember someone saying CC was concerned that the boat would handlt to well with the nibral rudder so they made up that scary looking SS rudder to take away some of the handling. People or CC thought they were turds with the SS rudder so the nibral was released later? I could call and get info. Yeah, i think there was more info on that in the thread from Jody. He said management didn't want the 176 eclipsing their flagship Ski Nautique so they purposely detuned it with the rudder.

3:00 Am here In Australia Long flight's yesterday!

176.... Great little boat! If you are a slalom skier probably the best slalom boat ever designed up to the current 200 platform.
Yea one could say the boat was to good and it was up staging the Ski Nautique in some realms of function. The decision was made to De-tune so to speak via utilizing a smaller rudder.
Find a 176 with the GT-40 and a 11-a rudder installed and it will track and drive as good or better then it's big brother.
I would some day like to Parlay into one!

phatsat67 wrote: I think I remember someone saying CC was concerned that the boat would handlt to well with the nibral rudder so they made up that scary looking SS rudder to take away some of the handling. People or CC thought they were turds with the SS rudder so the nibral was released later? I could call and get info.

Yeah, i think there was more info on that in the thread from Jody. He said management didn't want the 176 eclipsing their flagship Ski Nautique so they purposely detuned it with the rudder.

No sure if it was made clear in this thread, but Tim C confirmed that you can't put an 11a on a 176 unless you also swap out the rudder port. The 11a has a 1-1/4" shaft, the 176 uses a 1-1/8". Both the ss home made rudder and the nibral replacement are 1-1/8"... And I'm *guessing the nibral replacement offers a handling improvement similar to the 11a, but I don't know if anyone has ever done that comparison back to back.

hahah I was looking everywhere for that thread when I was in the process of buying this thing.

Thanks Gary!!

Chris, that's what everyone has been telling me since I picked mine up. It makes sense given the shape. It looks like it would create a lot of turbulence vs a rudder with chord.

watrski have you used both? report?

Thanks for the bump Hollywood!!

This looks like what I need.

Bump

thats what i remember the most was the weld splatter on the SS, I also remember barely, grinding it, sanding it and buffing it, it looked like chrome when i was done

that SS rudder is really a pancake..lol
HW i noticed the same yesterday...anyway the brass one is still smaller than the 196 rudder...