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Hollywood
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Posted: March-15-2013 at 1:50pm |
Have good tyres and don't stop. Hell I don't even have limited slip!
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phatsat67
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Thankfully HW is very good at not putting his Caddy in 4wd Situations. Even though it isn't a "4x4" The country chicks still dig it.
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Hollywood
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Yeah 4wd is great when you put yourself in a position to get stuck with 2wd, duh.
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phatsat67
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74, I love the new Sonota especially with the turbo motor. I would chose to drive one of those home when I worked for the Hyundai/Chrysler store over a 200 or Avenger. The interior appointment and materials reminds me of my mom's 08 328i Bimmer.
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63 Skier
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Where I live I wouldn't consider a 2WD vehicle. There's too many weather related reasons to have 4WD, the boat towing is just one more reason.
I launch from a yard on a sandy beach a lot, no way to get out with 2WD. My friend's 2WD Suburban got stuck some years ago, had to pull him out. As someone said, 4WD is so available now, doesn't cost much more, mpg's aren't all that much worse, maintenance isn't an issue, I'd go 4WD every time just so there's no question you can launch anywhere, anytime. |
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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74Wind
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Ya think? Seems every 2 years I've got a great 100K mile car to pass to one of the kids........ |
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Gary S
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My gawd you spend waay too much time in the car
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74Wind
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Hyundai has come a long way, I'm on my 4th. Get this: Around 80K miles my 2008 Sonata made a noise the dealer could not identify. At 105K miles it made a bad noise which the dealer identified as catastrophic engine failure. Since the prior unidentified noise had been documented, they replaced with a brand new engine (I saw the crate) at no cost to me other than a token $300 share of the labor. New engine at 105,000 miles for $300 bucks, think many other manufacturers would do that? My son drives it now running strong at 180K on the odometer, 75K on the engine. Now I drive a 2011 Elantra, 77,000 already and going strong.... |
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Gary S
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Here is another tow option. He never used a ramp but rather had it
lifted off so the trailer would not get full of salt.This trailer was only used to store it and travel a mile to launch. A tandem was used to haul long distance.As long as you don't get a G23 2wd should be fine |
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phatsat67
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I think Animal house makes me like those Lincolns. Ramming Speed!!!!
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bhectus
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Yeah, mid-6 lincolns are the shizzle.
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'02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold
'87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
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Hollywood
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That Supra was before the CC
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Dreaming
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Anyone heard from Ryan in a while? What happened with his son? From the looks of that pic, he must have sold the V-drive 2001, and purchased a sunsport? I am a fan of the custom wagons.... the suicide door lincoln with the airstream is pretty cool too! |
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phatsat67
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I know! Chrysler renamed urgent TSBs as RRTs. Rapid Response Transmitals. There is a fine for not completeing these before the sale of the vehicle or if the vehicle has a warranty claim other than that processed on the vehicle.
Mostly what TSBs are now are helpful hints or procedures for doing RRTs or specific warranty jobs(atleast in Chrysler world). |
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bhectus
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Zach, the stuff they like to keep under wraps are the TSB's. Technical Service Bulletins. These are known problem items that haven't quite gone to full-blown product recalls or don't pose a safety issue. I used to frequent the Tundra forums and before that was on the Chevy forums when I owned my Silvy. You'd be shocked at the amount of TSB's there are for various vehicles that people don't know about. But it's nice to know about them and even nicer when you actually have the issue and can bring that print-out to the dealer and say "Fix this!".
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'02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold
'87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
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phatsat67
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Brett, my 99 R/T was recalled for over rated towing weight. We actually owned one that was a factory buy back. The suspension was the problem it being lowered and having different spring rates for performance application.
The new rating was only 2000 lbs. The R/T came with aux ps and tranny coolers, larger engine cooling system/radiator, 3/4 ton automatic transmission, and a half ton 9 1/4 rear axle with 3.92 limited slip. Needless to say I reguarly towed well over the recalled rating ;). I think the only recalls on my 10 Ram were outter tie rods and a reprogram of the HVAC head unit. Some of the 10s had a recall for incorrect torque settings of the rear pinion nut sometimes causing the drive shaft to fall out . My build date was not effected by that recall. Being that I used to work at a Chrysler dealer and my Dad was also a service manager for a different dealer there were lots of recalls on the other vehicles like vans mostly. Hyundai had a lot of recalls too. I think manufacturers like to keep those recals under wraps unless they are a big deal like something the media can make money on ie(sticking throttle pedals frames breaking in half). |
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bhectus
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John, all the pictures you posted are Tacomas, not Tundras. I believe Toyota had some frame issues in the 1st gen Tundra but the 2nd gen trucks haven't had any issues with recalls other than the gas pedal hoax and that still has yet to be proven to be the culprit of the mysterious runaway Camry's. (by the way those pedal assemblies were made from an American manufacturer).
At least my airbag won't unexpectedly deploy while I'm driving. At least my airbag won't unexpectedly deploy while I'm driving.">F-150 airbag recall Or my gas tank won't fall out causing the truck to catch on fire: F150 gas tank straps fail on 1-million trucks I could go on but I have work to do. They all have recalls. |
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'02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold
'87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
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phatsat67
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HW's Caddy sure gets the job done.
I love the early 60's Lincolns. |
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Hollywood
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Right on Gary. Towing in style!
I'm fairly certain this is actually forum member "form&function". Reminds me of Larry's story about taking on water in his minivan at Lake George. some white stuff for jbear |
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Gary S
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HW you'll like this- Back in the 70's you could not buy a nice
truck with modern conveniences that we take for granted now. Air, power windows,locks,nice ride etc. This picture shows my Dads '71 472ci Caddy on the left with a couple of friends.L-R 27ft,31ft, 25ft Airstreams. All the car needed was a hitch and a trans cooler. The difference between towing and not was 4mpg. At 32 cents a gallon,no one cared. |
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john b
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OK HW, watch this! These are 2009 models. The Toyota looks like it has overcooked egg noodles, or maybe pool noodles, for a frame. Everyone knows about fatigue and stiffness vs handling. A good demonstration here. Go ahead and flame away. Toyota frame stiffness demonstration VS Ford. |
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Hollywood
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You are going to get flamed, those are older tacomas.
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john b
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I know a lot of you guys like the Toyotas, but they really scare me. They have had so many recalls and with the severe frame rust problems on the Tundra and others I would be afraid it may not be safe. If they commonly break in half on a lift, imagine a moderate to severe crash. Toyota has recalled them and has agreed to fix some and they have been buying back older ones from owners due to the severity of the rust problem.
I haven't heard of this kind of structural problem with the Chevy / Ford / Dodge trucks. A lot full of buy backs behind a dealership waiting for the crusher. Frame swap video |
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flipflop
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Can't believe all these answers in such a short time...must be Winter.
Nice value on the older 4Runners right now. I was looking at one myself. I believe the 05+ (5 Speed Transmission) and 2WD will give you all the towing you need for a Nautique and the best gas mileage. Not to mention the wealth of information out there on the 4Runner. Might even be able to find one under $10k. stats |
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john b
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4wd is nice sometimes. I us my wife's Escape 4wd whenever the weather is bad and she isnt using it. It really opens up a lot of parking spaces in the city that mere cars cannot access. It is worth it for that. Is there really a down side to 4wd any more? Mine gets about the same mileage as the 2wd model.
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dochockey
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4wd all the way
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phatsat67
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Haha excellent.
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62 wood
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actually, redneck probably hadnt been coined yet. I was considered a farmer back then. I lived in the country and drove a pickup, what else could you be? |
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john b
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Steve, I have seen your digs and its no surprise you need one. My recent experience with P/Us has been with a friend of mine. He has one for image only (along with a couple of cars). Steve came up to northern WI in his 4 door Ram with a big engine carrying one of his heaviest loads, a sport quad (probably 275 pounds). He bought my 64 15' Mark Twain runabout and pulled it home. He felt it necessary to call me when he got home to tell me the truck pulled it just fine. That is the kind of truck owner I know from around here.
Once again, sorry to all you guys who know what you need and buy it. |
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phatsat67
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You are such a redneck Steve ;).
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