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    Posted: April-06-2014 at 9:12am
Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

Ouch grinding next to the truck that can be tough on the paint
It really wasn't as close as the picture makes it seem.
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I loosen the hose clamps and use a large flat head screwdriver to seep rate the hose from the muffler. If you pry it back a little and squirt some soapy water in the space it will eventually act like penetrating lube. It's a fight and sometimes it takes some work to get it loose.
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Just a follow up question. How do I disconnect the Invertaflow fiberglass monster that is above the tranny?
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I had major issues with a neighbour two houses down from me for that very reason after redoing the gel on mine. I spent a long time compounding his car and ended up paying for a professional detailer to fix it at my local spray shop. He did a great job, but it turned out my neighbour still wasn't happy, in the end he was being an unreasonable di**head and has since moved house. Thank God
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Sometimes you have to be creative, if the hoist has the reach then you can take the tires off the trailer to get the height, otherwise you need an A frame or a good tree.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

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I did some spray painting close to the truck one day and didn't realize the wind direction. Now I have a white speckled finish on the truck hood and left front quarter panel. Thankfully it's a old 95 so it really doesn't matter!    


A clay bar would take that overspray off pretty easily.
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Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

Ouch grinding next to the truck that can be tough on the paint

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I did some spray painting close to the truck one day and didn't realize the wind direction. Now I have a white speckled finish on the truck hood and left front quarter panel. Thankfully it's a old 95 so it really doesn't matter!    


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Thanks all for the tips. The tranny is in good shape and I was going to leave it in. But if it's easier to take them out at the same time then that's what I'll do (once I locate the driveshaft). Where on the engine do I chain it?

Also a typical car hoist won't reach over the boat. How have you guys hoist the engine & tranny out?

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Originally posted by ny_nautique ny_nautique wrote:

And Vern, if your exhaust headers have rusted bolts, be prepared for this:



Yup... Happened to mee three weeks ago. This process involved lots of swearing, busted drill bits and thread tapping as you can see here...

But, we got it fixed. Redneck style nonetheless, because, due to a lack of US thread taps in my uncle's shop, my 351 now has 15 US threaded bolts and 1 metric threaded bolt in it...




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+1 on manifold bolts comment. Whilst repairing a cracked manifold, my bolts came loose pretty easily, and there was no indication that they had ever been off since 1974.

Of course I didn't try the other side...
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Don't let NY scare you. That might happen. But my boat was a salt water for at least 8 years and had seized. My manifolds came right off without any problem. The seized pistons, not so much!
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And Vern, if your exhaust headers have rusted bolts, be prepared for this:


The exhaust header thread.

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We just unbolted all four engine mounts from the boat at a friends shop who had a big a frame. Disconnected it at the drive shaft. Lifted it out and put it in my truck on a 4x4 frame. It was very easy to measure the rectangular frame the engine mounts bolt to and make the wood frame before hand.
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Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

I found it's easier to pull the motor and transmission all at the same time just disconnect it at the shaft.
Then once it's out of the boat take it apart then it's a lot easier to get at all the housing bolts.


+2. I don't understand why anyone would leave a transmission in a boat when pulling the engine. It takes half the time to pull it and then again half the time/headache to pull the transmission while it's on the ground/engine hoist.
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I agree with removing them both at the same time.

Have some 6x6s or a cradle built to place it on. Then you can remove the tranny and get to work.
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Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

I found it's easier to pull the motor and transmission all at the same time just disconnect it at the shaft.
Then once it's out of the boat take it apart then it's a lot easier to get at all the housing bolts.


+1 Much easier, and I am sure you will want to clean and paint tranny? Bilge?
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I found it's easier to pull the motor and transmission all at the same time just disconnect it at the shaft.
Then once it's out of the boat take it apart then it's a lot easier to get at all the housing bolts.
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Similar to a car,you can remove it from the bell housing or you can leave it on and remove the housing complete
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Hi All, I have a 88 Ski Nautique w/a seized block from over heating. I want to pull it and rebuild the engine. Where do I disconnect it from the transmission? This will be my first engine rebuild.
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