1973 Correct Craft Ski Nautique Restoration |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Interesting how CC had to route the exhaust to get the package to fit under the dog house.
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burban65 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-22-2008 Location: NW Indiana Status: Offline Points: 167 |
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Craig - I am interested.....send me a PM with specifics. Thanks.
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C-Bass ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-18-2008 Location: Columbus, IN Status: Offline Points: 1248 |
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Bringing this one back from the dead. I bought this boat back in 2015 from Adam after he had water in oil issues. I piddled with it, replaced the exhaust riser o-rings/gaskets, new exhaust valve to replace the broken/rusted one, and got the engine running. I took it to a local lake a couple times and skied behind it, and then hauled it to Dale Hollow for a week on a houseboat trip in 2017, but that's it. It'll sound cliche, but it's the usual story of I just don't have time to use it or mess with it (had a few kids after buying it, have the 67 project to continue working on some day....), regardless I've decided to sell it. This is a super cool boat with a rare engine package in it so someone on this site needs to get this thing as you guys can appreciate it more than average Joe. I'll be putting a listing up hopefully in the next few days, but feel free to contact me if you're interested in a 2nd gen with a big block!
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stubing22 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: August-19-2018 Location: denver Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Regarding the "Stars and Stripes" Ski Nautique.
I found an old sale ad for a 1975 SN for sale in planetnautique.com Lo and behold it was for the "Stars and Stripes" SN. The stars and stripes were painted into the SN name on the side, very cool. This confirms the legend of this paint scheme and the fact that the '73 though very Red White and Blue is not the Stars and Stripes model. I have a 1973 also. https://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/forum/classified-group-buy-section/boats-for-sale-by-owner/26697-1975-ski-nautique-for-sale-special-promo-boat-fantastic-original-condition |
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pcjeeper ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: April-20-2015 Location: Bremen, IN Status: Offline Points: 52 |
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The one shop built me a 4.2 inline 6 Stroker for my rock crawler about 4 years ago, the other shop was a friend of a friend deal that apparently only works on Ferds....and both shops do mostly diesel work anymore...guess that is where the money is at now...
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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It sure must be nice to be able to turn away business! What did they do for you in the past? Hopefully not marine engines since they are so different from automotive, even the best mechanic has a real hard time working on them. ![]() ![]() |
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pcjeeper ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: April-20-2015 Location: Bremen, IN Status: Offline Points: 52 |
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"We don't specialize in marine engines, and parts are not readily available for a 73 440"
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Did they say why? |
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C-Bass ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-18-2008 Location: Columbus, IN Status: Offline Points: 1248 |
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PM me if you're selling it. I'm just down the road.
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Chevy350 ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June-24-2013 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 721 |
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Don't sell it... this is rare boat.
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1972 Mustang
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pcjeeper ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: April-20-2015 Location: Bremen, IN Status: Offline Points: 52 |
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Well....
Pulled the motor... Broken exhaust valve on starboard side. Don't see any damage to the block but it needs to be magnafluxed. Looking for a good engine shop now to see if it is repairable or possibly thinking about selling and picking up another one (88 SN) in much better shape. Unfortunately both local engine shops I have used in the past are not interested in the Marine 440, I got an estimate from a local marina at just over 6K to swap in a jasper m440 long block, but I'm not to fond of that. Time is getting slim now, busy season at work.... Kinda leaning towards selling it and lift. |
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Chevy350 ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June-24-2013 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 721 |
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Hate to be asking a lot, but any updates?
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1972 Mustang
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pcjeeper ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: April-20-2015 Location: Bremen, IN Status: Offline Points: 52 |
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not yet been working on other projects, hopefully will get back on it this weekend...
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Chevy350 ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June-24-2013 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 721 |
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Any updates?
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1972 Mustang
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pcjeeper ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: April-20-2015 Location: Bremen, IN Status: Offline Points: 52 |
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And the Verdict is....
Compression Test (Bow to Stern) Port side 120-120-90-120 Starboard side 110-115-110-0 :( Going to pull the starboard head as soon as I get a chance... |
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pcjeeper ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: April-20-2015 Location: Bremen, IN Status: Offline Points: 52 |
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The back 3 cylinders on the starboard side are rusty and pitted but the front one is not, hard to tell really...
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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Any signs of water in the runners? I've never actually seen the actual internal crack in a manifold.
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pcjeeper ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: April-20-2015 Location: Bremen, IN Status: Offline Points: 52 |
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Pulled the exhaust manifold today and didn't really find any cracks, going to do a compression test Saturday next...
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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What joe said.
If it comes down to manifold(s): http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=301644717930 |
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JoeinNY ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-19-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5698 |
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With it being the last cylinder certainly there is hope that it is only the manifold. As discussed manifold off and look inside for signs of water or cracks, compression test the engine either way. Don't get too excited about the actual value,report back all 8 of them here for commments. Ebasic power has replacements available Ebasic power for Barr manifolds they dont say chrysler but they get the job done. I might have an extra one around but they are insane to ship. Definitely dont take the engine out or apart until after you check the manifold and compression test.
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pcjeeper ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: April-20-2015 Location: Bremen, IN Status: Offline Points: 52 |
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The last cylinder was the only on that was full, the 3rd cylinder had a damp plug when i pulled them too, so maybe the back 2 cylinders have the issue, I will do a compression test on it before tearing it down...what are the acceptable specs for the m440?
Also is the manifold something that can be repaired, or does it need to be replaced, and where would i find one? Thanks |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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Just one cylinder with water in it? Any sign of water in the other cylinders on that bank? Every time I've had water in the cylinders it was due to cracked exhaust manifolds. But it was always more than one cylinder at a time.
Like they said, be 100% sure you got the water out and then start with a compression test. It that comes back good I'd look at the exhaust. If not, tear down and pray for a head gasket problem. |
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pcjeeper ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: April-20-2015 Location: Bremen, IN Status: Offline Points: 52 |
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Yep I'm going to start there, pull that side apart first...
I pulled the spark plug and cranked the motor until as much of the water was out that i could get, put the plug back in and the motor fired right up, i ran it for a couple min dry no water hooked up. I'm hoping the water that got in the oil was just pushed past the rings in that cylinder. |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Dont let the water sit inside it. Do a compression test to see if it's a head gasket if not. then pull off the starboard manifold first and look for signs of water tracking and rust. I had a manifold go bad last year and was able to see where the water went. No need to pull the engine just yet
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pcjeeper ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: April-20-2015 Location: Bremen, IN Status: Offline Points: 52 |
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Well some disappointing news!
Boat ran well on the hose, so I took it out to the lake yesterday and ran it a bit at the launch, it ran about 5 min then stalled, it then wouldn't turn over. Tried to but motor was locked. Pulled the plugs and the back cylinder on the starboard side was full of water...so The oil is slightly milky too now, it is interesting to me that It ran on the hose with no issues, but maybe it wasn't getting the full amount of water form the hose... Going to be pulling the motor this week.... Right now I guess the plan is to pull the exhaust manifolds and heads to see how bad it is. it has 325 hours on the motor from 73', depending on the condition of the heads and block, is it wise to rebuild everything? Any suggestions, advice? |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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Potentially, yes- good point... But based on the wheels I've seen, the ones that have the swappable hub are less common than the ones that don't. |
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DrCC ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: April-12-2004 Location: at home Status: Offline Points: 2875 |
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And if you remove the wheel there are 5 screws in the back of the hub.
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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Those sparkly "the 500" steering wheels have been around forever but I still don't think it's an original wheel, Steve! They probably reused the hub and center cap though, those are teleflex like the original would have been.
Pull the snap ring, remove the center cap and you'll see 3 bolts that tighten the spokes to the hub. The big nut in the center will tighten the hub to the shaft. |
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Chevy350 ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June-24-2013 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 721 |
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The play is in the whole steering wheel. For you push forward at the top, it moves forward. If you pull back, it moves back. It wobbles and seems lose. I was wondering if there was a way to tighten the steering wheel itself so it's solid and turns nice but doesn't wobble/move.
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1972 Mustang
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62 wood ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-19-2005 Location: NW IL Status: Offline Points: 4527 |
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Is the play in the wheel to shaft / or does the shaft itself have the play?
I havent had this wheel off, but I think the hubs are tapered. Is it fully seated? |
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