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    Posted: December-14-2015 at 11:17am
I believe the Illinois law is something like any mount extending 4" or more past the bumper needs red/orange marking to be OK.
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Boob? They may be brothers after all. He doesn't live in Vermont and he doesn't drive a Subaru but he's a fan of the beard and sure as sht can't change a tire.
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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Pete may be the first Subaru owner concerned about a ball mount??


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i lost a brother look alike to that guy he was a dudley a gift from my family after the loss of my son. Ill cherish the memory of that boob forever. he was the most stubborn lab i ever had.
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about the subaru there are millions of them in vt with a population of under a million   most owned by hipsters that walk around with the flannel and beards and cant change a tire. they are more often than not blow hards and knowitalls not anything like you Pete
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quinner answering a 'ball mount warning' sure had me worried.

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Pete may be the first Subaru owner concerned about a ball mount??
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We have to find a place that does not have ticks,alligators don't worry me now. As to the Weather Tech stuff,it is nice I have mats in all my vehicles. Made a special trip to the factory last summer to go to their store,quite an impressive place.
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Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:

Don't know much about those but will vouch 100% for their laser custom fit-by model floor mats,


We've had them on all our cars for years. Highly recommend them as well.


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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

What a journey...Even now as a rise instead of a drop I'm surprised it's at the appropriate tongue height for a Forester coming from a 3/4 Suburban.

With the mount in the rise position, it comes out to the same 16" position that's on the Suburban. In fact, the mount I made has the same drop/rise as the one that came with the receiver/ball mount/wiring harness kit I purchased from etrailer.


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Someone mentioned linked above the Weather tech bump step. Don't know much about those but will vouch 100% for their laser custom fit-by model floor mats, the ones that come up the sides if you are looking.    quite tough, and fit like a glove to all the contours of the floor and sides, just pick year/make/model.

I tend to trash factory mats quickly, and I have found, that although a bit pricy, these are worth every penny and will also improve resale value. My problem is just sand and mud, I would think particularly for you snow boys these are a no-brainer......
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i'm not sure they are legal in place of an actual ball mount...
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i have seen a bunch of reciever hitch "step" and low speed bump stops for sale while some are plastic many are tube steel . they are sold as steps and are said to lower damage to your vehicle. if they are legal to use in states barring travel with a ball mount it seems contradictory
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What a journey...Even now as a rise instead of a drop I'm surprised it's at the appropriate tongue height for a Forester coming from a 3/4 Suburban.
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Getting back to the stuck ball mount in the receiver, I just picked up the mount. Not having a hydraulic press, I took the cut off receiver to a shop in town. It was stuck big time - it took all of the 50 tons the press could build up!! When rust expands, it does amazing things. The mount is now cleaned up, convert-a-ball installed and ready to go on my, per Kevin, not so manly Forester tow vehicle!! Trust me, the mount will not stay in the receiver when not in use!!


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Georgia also a good alternative; lakes, mountains, ocean. Quite affordable. Just for comparison, our annual property tax this year was $2300 for a 4 bedroom/2.5 bath on 3/4 acre in very nice suburb 30 miles south of Atlanta.

Taxes on our much smaller house in CT were far higher and had to be spread out into the monthly PITA mortgage payment and all that, now I just walk into the tax office once a year and pay the bill.....
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There is another option and I took it. More snow, longer winters, colder providing winter activities besides the summer activities. I do have a well and septic but they are very manageable. The "big" city is 20 minutes away, the smaller city is 12 minutes and the town of Three Lakes is 5 minutes. I have 2 lakefronts at 100 feet each. I can boat on 28 contiguous lakes ranging in size from 200 to 2000 acres. I'm happy to no longer have the 14K property taxes and now just the one at 2.4K. Also no utilities and no homeowners insurance on the old house.


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North Carolina is a beautiful state and one of the few places I'd considered moving to, if I had to move. I've been to the Asheville and Charlotte areas and they both seem to offer great life styles. When I first went to Asheville back in the 1980's I couldn't believe how cheap real estate was, but I understand now that it has sky rocketed and is more expensive than in Maine.

In Maine we have long winters, short summers, low incomes, high taxes, high property prices, expensive heating seasons, huge mosquitos and black flies, but people keep moving here.

North Carolina also seems centrally located which makes it easier to get to reunions.
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From the NC crowd.

I have said many times I don't think there are too many areas where we could afford to live as we do and have as much quality of life as we do here. We have reasonable home prices, reasonable taxes, and good schools are not hard to find. We are on a lake on a little cove with two other houses on the cove. 30 minute to an international airport. 20 minutes to downtown with major university (Duke), 30 minutes to UNC. 2.5 hours to the mountains, 2.5 hours to the ocean. Seasons, but rare ice/snow. Hard to beat. I have been offered jobs all over but have stayed because I didn't think we could have done as well in any of those places.
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A few of our neighbors built homes in Nebo, NC. They are on Lake James. It's out near Ashville. We went down there two years ago for the Holidays. It was pretty chilly (30's/40's) in the mornings. But, we got back to Chicago and there was a blizzard going on and I had to shovel the car out from under a foot of snow. But, gorgeous scenery in that area.

Indy.....My mom has 2 acres of beautiful wooded property just north of Indy (Fishers/Noblesville). Taxes are ~@2K/year. Her house is an old 3 br ranch, but, beautiful property. That area used to be farm country when I was a kid.....maaaany years ago. It is not even recognizable anymore with so much growth. But, that area always gets high marks for quality of life, and low costs.

We have a 4 br/2 bath home on a 1/4 acre lot. Taxes are $7K, and I suspect they are getting ready to give us a good intercoursing this next year due to the bad state of affairs in IL.

I could see doing Lake Geneva/Delavan WIS in the summer, and heading south/southwest in the winter. I like Alan's idea of hopping in an RV and roaming. Might use Indy as a home base for low taxes. Wisc is no bargain on taxes. One of the higher tax states.

There is a cool website I found. www.findyourspot.com. 8 sections of questions on climate, geography, culture, weather, etc. My spot was Bloomington, IN. South of Indy. Home to IU. Springfield, MO ranked high too.
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Taxes on 3200 sq ft home with 170' water front are about 1/3 of what they were for my average house in the burbs up on Cape Cod. Admittedly, this house was a fixer-upper, but cost about 3/4 what that house in the burbs sold for., tho now it is worth more.. (just call me Mr Handy) Our first house down here (just under 200o feet, 80 foot water front cost about 1/2 of what the burbs house sold for.

Obviously, there is no one right answer, and if florida is what you want, that's great, but some of you have had a taste of North Carolina, and it is great. We liked the geography, (not the taxes or weather) of NY and MA but we haven't looked back since coming down here 3 years ago. Like Greg said, you CAN get on the water all year. Its not hot and lovely like FL all year, but if you like some variety in weather, and maybe want to be a little closer to whoever you are leaving behind up north, and a very reasonable cost of living, NC is ideal. If you are not ready to retire, Charlotte or Raleigh can have you near the water and still find a job. If you can retire, there are a number of more remote choices. Anyone on a recon trip is welcome to stop by.
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At the rate things are going the warmer climate is coming to us!! December 10 and it was almost 50deg outside this AM

Greg, your home on my lake with 200' of frontage, taxes would be 12-15k range, on average taxes run about 3-4% of actual value annually, ouch!!
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We will not be waiting that long before we get to a warmer climate. We talk about it almost daily.
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Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

Hollywood has a house now.. Holloween issue solved

and I've heard it came pre decorated! Although, I do understand he has been doing lots of work on it!


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Gary/Kevin, Lot's of reasons we want to get a move on, taxes being just one of them. Quite honestly the main reason is we're summer people and we're just a little tired of the winter blues. .


On the same wavelength Magic.. Its funny, when I was younger, I always wondered why old people always flocked down South in the wintertime,, "Snowbirds" if you will.. Ahh, now I'm old and I get it !! That's OK, Hollywood has a house now.. Holloween issue solved
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For some of you mid-westerners you should consider the Carolina's. You still get all the seasons and can (with a bit of effort) enjoy boating year round.
Depending on where you are located taxes are pretty reasonable and when compared to what you paying they would have you doing the Snoopy dance.

For those who attended the Badin Lake Mini - our annual taxes are ~2k per year. Granted we have a septic system, city water and no trash pick up but I'll take it. Our lot is right at 1 acre with 200' of water frontage.

Our primary home (~16 miles outside of downtown Charlotte) is roughly $2,600/yr for a 5 BR / 3 bath.
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Focus people..focus....
.. only on CCF can a post start with rusty ball mounts and morph into a "where we gonna move" discussion.

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I could honestly see us being gypsies in the motorhome for a month or two each year.


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Gary/Kevin, Lot's of reasons we want to get a move on, taxes being just one of them. Quite honestly the main reason is we're summer people and we're just a little tired of the winter blues. We'll have grand kids coming in a few years so we're trying to plan an exit from the business and things that tie us down so we can enjoy them and our boating friends. I could honestly see us being gypsies in the motorhome for a month or two each year.
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