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jbear
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this thread is hilarious and a perfect read on April Fools Day...
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"Loud pipes save lives"
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TRBenj
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Yes send $ via venmo pls thx
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DHart
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Is the engine still for sale?
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Riley
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Todd, what are you looking for and what year Cuda?
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Got Tiques
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Bruce, holiday get-together so are also a deal making time!! But as you know everything is for sale. HaHa!
Still haven't heard about any spare Barracuda parts or Poly part s I need and you might have. Todd |
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Donald80SN
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I was wanting to put it in a Monte Carlo.
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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
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Riley
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Damn, I just picked up an engineless BFN.
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TRBenj
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Sale pending.
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63 Skier
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Well that makes more sense, I was thinking I was nuts! I do value your experience and knowledge so was all ears. Good to hear you feel I could absorb a power bump, just maybe not as far as I would have liked. I can't say I've spent the time to do precise measurements to see if a non-log exhaust would fit, and could always modify the motorbox, but the little narrow jump seats are handy and wouldn't work if squeezed more by the box dimensions swelling. From my eyeball test I don't think there is room.
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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TRBenj
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Missed the key word- log. I thought you were strictly talking wet vs dry exhaust. The logs are almost certainly a restriction vs a riser/header style exhaust. I wouldn't worry *too* much about it in the 400hp range though.
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63 Skier
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Really, very interesting. I guess from reading on some jet boat sites I just assumed the logs would limit HP, I know there are comments about reaming out some inside flange edges to maximize flow where the logs attach to the snails. That's really promising to hear you don't think it would be much of a limiting factor. Even though like I said I don't believe they'd fit, I looked at the cost of jacketed headers, and I think they are worth more than my whole boat.
The unfortunate thing is I think I would have been a good prospect for your engine if it was built to put out a bit more power, mid 400's to 500 is kind of what I've had in mind, plus I'd have the donor engine to swap. It's a 60 mph boat now, very stable, and I figure adding a bit over 100 HP would get it to high 60's and be a better match for the hull size/weight in terms of holeshot and mid range. I don't think 375-400 HP would be enough of a difference to be worth it. |
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TRBenj
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If there is a limit, it's gotta be well over 1000hp.
There are several factory engines, such as the Pythons (435hp), 6.0L (409-450hp), and SC6.2 (550hp) that are near or exceeding your hp target... Most breathe through cast iron manifolds. Several of us are running 500+ hp through aftermarket stainless or aluminum manifolds. What we're building is still pretty tame compared to many offshore guys... They mostly run wet exhaust too. Of course, aftermarket manifolds aren't cheap. That said, build on. |
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63 Skier
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Tim, do you have any idea what the HP limit would be running a 454 with wet log through transom exhaust? My jet boat has a tired 454 (though still runs very well) and because it has a motorbox with jump seats on either side I don't think I have room for any sort of aftermarket exhaust. I don't know what my engine was rated at, but going off of an impeller chart it appears to make 330-350 HP now.
I've thought about a rebuild but don't want to pay someone to build a 450 HP engine that is choked by exhaust and can't make it's power. |
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TRBenj
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Trades for items that I currently own, or have given away for free will not be considered.
Anyone interested can feel free to ignore these jokers and send me a PM or email! |
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Hollywood
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Trade for a 70s #4 trailer?
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63 Skier
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Tim, you just can't win on this one! And you call these guys friends.
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DHart
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Will you trade for a stand up jet ski? Needs minor fiberglass repair.
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TRBenj
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Donald, I might consider it... But the hull needs to be in one piece. I fear the one you have in mind has been reduced to fiberglass dust...
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Donald80SN
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Would you accept a 72 Lynn Green Mustang Hull, currently covered with paint in trade for payment for the engine? I have access to one, but she will need a little TLC.
Curious, Donald |
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TRBenj
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I will be putting some effort into finishing this engine very shortly... It will be finished off in stock 330hp form and painted PCM silver. If an interested party wanted it as-is, disassembled to the long or short block, or would like it finished differently, please let me know ASAP!
Please email for pictures and info. Trbenj@gmail.com |
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storm34
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How fast does it go?
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phatsat67
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Mmm Pancakes
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Hollywood
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is that a pancake?
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phatsat67
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1235 prop Dave
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DHart
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How many hours are on it and what prop should I run?
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TRBenj
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Bruce, I have a chainsaw! But probably best to refer to HW's post.
Paul, don't you worry. |
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gun-driver
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Tim, Hollywood
see my post in "off Topic" something about getting married. |
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Hollywood
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Bruce, see his post above his last post.
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Riley
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I might be interested if you'll come to Maine and install it in a Penn Yan for free.
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TRBenj
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Scott, please see my post above.
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