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AAM196 
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 Topic: Winterizing...Posted: October-12-2020 at 6:16pm |
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Not really... I do spike it a bit on the 2nd or third use.. I recycle it after that and start fresh. That being said, It resides in a heated garage. Having a helper makes job pretty easy.
Having single exhaust also helps with the collection.. |
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SNobsessed
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Posted: October-12-2020 at 5:41pm |
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Do you recheck concentration?
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AAM196
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Posted: October-12-2020 at 2:30pm |
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Hummm... I always fog engines going into layup... regardless of the temp it will be held at unless you will be turning it over every week or so to get oil on cylinder walls walls etc.
If you have a way of collecting the antifreeze and collecting/recycling easy if you are on a trailer... I just use regular glycol antifreeze... has anti corrosion properties and mixes with water. a pair of 5 gallon buckets and a lid and you can use the same batch for years... even storing in heated garage... peace of mind. Just make sure you cap your bucket if you have animals around! |
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ultrarunner
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Posted: October-11-2020 at 6:17pm |
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Oppps, disregard. That's an additional drain and soap-inlet for the impeller come spring time. We're pouring in from the outlet of the RWP ;-) Easy-Peasy
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ultrarunner
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Posted: October-11-2020 at 5:06pm |
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For those pouring in the A/F from above the impeller, are you putting a 90 on this fitting, so you don't make a mess trying to use a funnel and hose on this side-facing opening?
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Gary S
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Posted: October-11-2020 at 4:36pm |
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You were just hoping that with all the global warming you'd get a bonus boating day
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: October-11-2020 at 2:29pm |
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I can't stress enough the importance of being able to probe the drain holes for anything that may plug them up. I just got done winterizing my 312 and both block drains and both manifold drains were plugged until I got the wire in them. The only drain that wasn't plugged was the one on the bottom of the RWP!
Gary, Please note I'm late this year!
 I could hold off for several weeks but those below 40 degree days are getting rough on the hands. |
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2001SAN
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Posted: October-11-2020 at 2:08pm |
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Cool. I will treat myself then!
Cheers Pete. D. |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: October-09-2020 at 5:20am |
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Darren, They look good. The key is the stem is removable so you can use a piece of wire to probe the drain hole for sediment.
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2001SAN
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Posted: October-09-2020 at 2:16am |
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I am in the UK. I assume these would also work?
Sorry for jumping in! |
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Posted: October-08-2020 at 3:53pm |
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Do you guys put the McMaster-Carr: PN 4921K2 on the elbow to the side of the water pump too? Is there enough clearance (85 351 pcm)?
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Posted: October-07-2020 at 6:16pm |
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Indeed, accessibility is key |
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Fast351
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Posted: October-07-2020 at 5:59pm |
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I might have to get some of those 1/4" NPT ball valves. Those look like the hot ticket for fall when I drain the block a handful of times for freeze protection before winterizing. |
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Posted: October-07-2020 at 4:49pm |
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Ok that sounds like it will work. Maybe I'm not understanding you, I think if I splice in anywhere it would be in the middle of the hose that is accessible so I can get to it easily. Reversing the m/f ends makes sense in the event of a core failure. |
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Posted: October-07-2020 at 2:55pm |
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Installed those a few years ago. They work great! McMaster-Carr: PN 4921K2
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Posted: October-07-2020 at 1:40pm |
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I use a product called Auto Dolly by Merriick Machine. They work great to move the boat into tight spaces. I use a floor jack and pick up one side of the trailer. Then I slide one Auto Dolly under each tire and lower the trailer. Repeat for the other side. Once the Auto Dollies are in place, the boat can be positioned where wanted. A good smooth and level floor helps. The Merrick Machine units have heavy duty casters that roll well.
Link to Auto Dollies JQ |
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Posted: October-07-2020 at 1:16pm |
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Consider splicing in higher quality nylon, or brass garden hose ends, either at the engine, or the heater, makes for quick disconnects and purges.
Reverse the directions of the m/f. this way if the heater core ever pukes hard, three minutes you are on your way after connecting the hoses together. I winterize with a shop vac, One hose clamp at the engine, it pulls the water out of the heater core and lines, then pour a quart of af in. it also catches all the drains, so don't have a bilge of water and rust/sediment.
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Posted: October-07-2020 at 1:06pm |
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Stick this in the end of one of the hoses running up to the heater core:
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Posted: October-07-2020 at 12:59pm |
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another winterizing question. For a heater it is really a pain to get the hoses disconnected from the block to blow them out before adding anti freeze. Seems it would be easier if there is some type of fitting to put in the lines where they are more accessible? Ideas? Maybe there is a thread on this topic? Pictures?
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DVskier
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Posted: October-06-2020 at 11:12pm |
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Yes to winterizing the shower as the hot/cold water hoses have water in them even thought the pump wasn’t activated. It only takes a couple of minutes to drain the system. I’ve had heater and shower on my boat since 1997. Only had one shower issue, the plastic manifold at the mixer cracked after a particularly cold winter. Easy fix, it was a heatercraft if I’m not mistaken. Heaters have leaked after 4-5 years likely due to delicate cores and pounding caused by rough water on occasion.
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Posted: October-06-2020 at 9:50pm |
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Keno......I will take the under on your 48 more inputs..........now in another few weeks we may get to that number.
Question for the group - if one never uses the shower on the boats with the shower option does it still need to be part of the winterization? I am new to the shower scene.......well you guys know what I mean.
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ultrarunner
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Posted: October-06-2020 at 3:35pm |
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It’s lower than I thought. My 1996 SN, sitting on the Prestige trailer is 67” to top of windshield frame. Ground to top of bunks is 22”.
You should be fine unless you’re sitting way up on the trailer. |
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Posted: October-06-2020 at 2:10pm |
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Slight drift here, back to putting boat in garage. Does anyone know the height of the top of the windshield of a 2009 196 sitting on the trailer. I have a garage available for the first time and the opening is 81"s high. I've never had to worry about this before so I want to know the height before I commit. Boat is in water now and don't want to pull it out just to get measurement. Thanks, anyone?
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DockDoc
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Posted: October-02-2020 at 5:00pm |
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Hell no. VR1 is expensive! Once in the fall, that's it.
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In the dry climate where I live (Utah) I change the oil and filter as part of my winter layup routine. (Warm the engine up to normal operating temperature first). Not a lot of opportunity for moisture in the air to find its way into the crankcase. In the spring, re-commissioning goes quickly...
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Posted: October-02-2020 at 3:31pm |
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No and here's some info on if oil goes bad by just sitting in an engne: |
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Posted: October-02-2020 at 2:30pm |
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I just winterized the blue tiger as well. This year, I'm taking her underground to a limestone mine that was converted for storage of boats, RVs, etc. Kind of a neat idea. It's constant temperature, so I probably didn't have to do more than fog and loosen the belts, but I did the full monte of habit.
I'm curious, do you guys change the oil again in the spring with a fresh batch (VR1) or just once in the fall?
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Posted: October-02-2020 at 8:06am |
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Oh yeah, I was expecting it. More than one way to do it. Doesn't bother me. I know my way works and it goes pretty quick. I don't begrudge other people doing it other ways though :) |
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Posted: October-01-2020 at 8:45pm |
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I personally fog the cylinders / carb because... why not, it's cheap and seems generally recommended.
I also follow the manual's recommendation and loosen up the belts, remove the impeller, etc. |
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Posted: October-01-2020 at 7:48pm |
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In the block there's only one on the starboard side. Forward near the RWP or alternator depending on who mainized the engine.On Fords, near the #1 cylinder.
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