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wayoutthere
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You betcha, that filter was only to stop anything getting into the carb from the lawn and garden tank. I do have uscg fuel line to cap off the pump.
I did use all uscg on the 79, this fuel filter/line set up was a temp thing. The line from the boat tank is removed, all cracked and not flexible. Thanks. |
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KENO
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Sounds good to me.
I'd put a capped fuel line back on the pump, but toss that plastic fuel filter in the trash so you can never use it again. They don't exactly meet USCG regs or resist fire very well at all. And make sure it's USCG certified rubber hose or chuck that too. You probably went through all this with the 79 project.
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wayoutthere
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Ran it again today no vac, multi or timimg, just ran it. Bump the key it started cold, idled nice and when up to temp it hit strong when throttle blipped. Two thumbs up !
Fogged it to stall., pulled coil wire cranked and fogged another 5- 6 seconds. I will pull plugs, fog crank and re install plugs prior to 50/50 but first. Disconnect the hoses and drained them. removed the thermostat, removed the block, y pipe, and manifold plugs. Well both manifold plugs busted, port came out starboard is in there. They soaked with blaster overnight. Block drained, y pipe drained port manifold drained. I cranked the bow down and re pulled the starboard block drain and more came out. I flushed, poked and vacuumed every drain, vacuumed the starboard manifold, vacuumed the hoses, i am confident she is dry. Drained bowls, loosened hard gas line from pump. Ready to pull plugs fog, crank fog some more and put the plugs back in before 50/50. My opinion on the manifold plug, yes i coud pull riser drill it out and drain it and bust out plug. Yes could remove manifold and do that too. Believe best bet is fill it 50/50 stuff oil rag in riser and call it good until the time comes. (Oil rags in all 3 holes ) So re install plugs and hoses, pour 50/50 into t stat, down sea pump hose to trans cooler and reconnect, down manifold hoses and reconnect hoses. What'd i miss and or do wrong. Should i put capped fuel line on pump (pictured) Thanks |
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wayoutthere
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It has been slow to load, the pdf popped right up tho and i downloaded it.
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KENO
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I've has quite a few times in the last few weeks or so where if CCF was any faster loading, it might be able to be called slow.
Any other website loaded just fine but CCF took forever I'd call it a problem on CCF's end |
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Mpost
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First time i clicked on the link it took a whild to load. The past week I have had a few days when CCF was pretty slow at loading web pages? seems OK today. I have pretty good internet connection with 100 Mbps. Maybe Dan has slower download speed or a browser checker bloccking it???
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84 SN Sold 98 SN Lund Pro V 1975 Alumacraft
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KENO
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Does this work? First time I've had somebody say the links don't work the other way. Just click on it
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wayoutthere
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Thanks keno,
It does have a clip down prestolite distributor. There is a ssticker on the port valve cover that's just legible with timing, timing rpm, idle rpm max rpm and other info as well. I turned the engine by wrench until the timing marks came up and started sanding, soon as the orange popped thru i stopped and thought maybe it was factory. Hopefully petronix still carries the parts to replace the electronic ignition for that style. There was what i thought to be quite a bit of water in that tank and wonder if the locking cap leaks, or what could it be ? (I don't know why but every link you post doesn't open for me) some do on other members threads but not mine ! |
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KENO
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The timing mark at 6 degrees BTDC means that somebody timed it per the PCM manual.
A Prestolite distributor with a clip down cap which was what came on your 84 had an initial spec of 6 The later screwdown cap distributor had an initial spec of 10 degrees BTDC. Lots of similarity between the 2, but the advance springs, flyweights and advance limiter were slightly different Link to manual see page 9 |
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MrMcD
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You are making progress, going to be a nice boat.
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wayoutthere
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https://youtu.be/FBf6PSg9ZEA?si=_VR660-bkcecGFP_
It is hard to see because it was filmed looking at the tablet screen, for sure the timing light blinks every time 1 fires and the 6 is on point @ 600 +/- https://youtu.be/aS_S5w_59dE?si=Eix22UzxQXcX3vky |
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wayoutthere
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If that's the timing pointer and the orange paint which became visible while cleaning it up and is on 6, i got that at 600 rpm, it was off, retarded. If there was a rear sight that would be great but i think it's there. Fresh gas i believe is what made the difference. The multimeter is working but also jumping up/down but i can adjustvthe idle screw so it bounces 590-620 for timing and 630-660 on idle. Cause ? The idle air screws are 2 turns but who knows ! No big change observed The vacuum gauge is hooked to the port on the spacer and there is new rubber caps on the carb. The vac swings up/down in the late ign timing area but like mentioned i believe it's at 6 @600 When i removed the vac hose from the port 1/2 ounce of gas came out, it didn't do that on the 79, cause ?. There are 2 videos to upload and come back to edit this post with some notes/observations A while back stated goals were to send engine and trans off to appropriate shop for rebuild/freshen up but let's not get crazy $$$$. I think it's a good engine & trans package to do exactly that, (have to find shop for both in NE Ohio) It's going to sit so winterize and cyl oil/fog has to be on point even tho next fall it can be run and repeated or turned over and fog repeated. Will follow directions on fogging oil can and open to other methods to help ensure it stays a good engine. Gallon and a half of non meth got a whole can of b12 and 3 ounces of stabil dumped in. Drain carb line and pump or ???? Drain block, exhaust, dump hoses, impellor already out, fill with 50/50 fog cap exhaust outlets. How about the mufflers, they are plastic, pretty impressed how much quieter than no mufflers on 79. Thank you |
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wayoutthere
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The 3m eraser wheel was in the top 10 things i ever spent money on, 53 bucks, more than 1/2 of it left. Worked as advertised. Thanks for reccomending it.
Before i bought tho i tried to whack it with some 1000 grit on the grinder as seen port side right below the teak foot step. Looks like the gel will come back. These spider cracks( just on the rear deck and rear sides under the decals) are the only damage the boat has, (don't know if that is an 01 flaw or what) very minor dock rash will buff out, even the bottom is in great shape. Saving all the blue scheme pictures for later ! upload |
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Kristof
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Indeed. Works like a charm. (Over here we call them 'caramel discs'). |
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Jonny Quest
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3M™ Stripe Off WheelAmazing results
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2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited Previous 2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
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TRBenj
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Eraser wheel
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wayoutthere
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Level of difficulty 2 of 10, no fumes no burning skin. Works almost right away.
It didn't do much with the decals and did nothing to the pinstripes. I used more than needed to keep it wet but still used less than 1/2 a 2 qt bucket. Anybody have a product that removes pinstripes letters and decals i would appreciate it. They fell off the snob, on the 01, they are like iron. |
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wayoutthere
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Flat tire on 40 E leaving lake havasu tri axel 30 foot scarab. It took hours and they clipped me.
It was in good shape but the heat and dry out there really takes it's toll. Is what really happened. The take care of the trailer lesson i learned 40 years ago so 2010 in havasu was unexpected. Here in my part of florida we have family owned business ferguson's, .there motto is if we don't have it we're both in trouble. Counting the 2 ski boats in the yard now makes 7 trailers worth of parts from them over the last 10 years. Great guys, no pc in there i'll tell ya, like a corner bar in the 80's Walk in buy some hubs some extra parts tell some jokes and the havasu flat tire memory get's embellished via their motto and my b.s.. " if you don't maintain your trailer with parts from fergusons, it's your fault when you have to call highway tire tow and robbery" Hello highway tire tow and robbery how can we help you? My trailer is busted on the highway 500 miles from home, they told me i needed a part but i didn't get it. No problem sir how much was the part or service you chose not to do? 142 bucks. Ok just add a zero to that 142, multiply by 3 and we'll be there in about 6 hours. Is how i like to tell how it happened Fixed into the right thread. Because the windshields are 3 things : 1. no longer available 2. absolutely must haves 3. expensive. I think it's a good idea to remove and affix them to the boat(s) floor or some ply for safe keeping, they haven't broke yet but why push it. |
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KENO
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Well no you haven't, so I guess it's time to hear about highway tow and robbery And here's a link to one place where you can get the plastic hinge and someplace else referenced in the link below to an old thread here on CCF |
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wayoutthere
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I flushed out the exhaust and with some plumbing caps/couplers installed and sealed off the muffler for winter storage and dipping the boat in to get it on the trailer straight which it does not do, i had to ratchet strap it into position while the boat was just floating.
yay! Something else needs fixed! Also peeled off the decals and rubber non slip with plastic razor blades ( no damage) Wow it hasn't been cleaned yet but what an improvement. Since i'm ski nautiques biggest fan now when i transport it i can tell people its a mastercraft or somethng is why it's all waterlogged and had to get cut open In the process of that one of the plastic hinges broke (screwdriver points to hinge) and need a replacement or do i just pick up stainless ? No gas shocky things will be going back in the boat at all ever, period. New hubs tires and spares, extra hub parts etc etc too. All cleaned repacked etc etc across both trailers, fingers crossed i won't have to call highway tire tow and robbery. Did i mention highway tire tow and robbery already, maybe i should read my own thread. |
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wayoutthere
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Yep, pretty close to those thickness.
couple pictures of the rear were the gas tank can be seen, in the outlined area, the stringers have a flange that crosses all the way from the inboard stringer to the hull side. From the inside it looks like the hull would have a 1/2 inch step but it doesn't. Another outlined picture of the out board stringer up fron has an elevation change. That's were they put the floor pan. My idea is to pull a mold of the stringers and also make a floor pan template/mold. Think i got dealing with the hard parts of the stringers front and rear, the tough to get at or tough to get out sections so a diy'r could fix his waterlogged maloon special by keeping short sections of existing stringers intact (but clean out the wet foam) and cut in the 50% of stringers section that is easy to get to and easy to get out then tab in a floor pan to finish it off. Boom, no foam filled rebuild it original waterlogged mess like the factory does. Same for the 84 hull, well maybe not theres not a problem but theres a problem. I'll start a seperate thread. Meantime what your looking at is, aaggh who am i kidding who knows what it is, foam filled block with a pvc pipe that starts up front by the bow eye behind a dam and dump into the airbox by the front of the stringers. It dumps all that water into the voids around the drivers seat and no doubt is what filled up the empty cavity under the driver se Anyway, that chunk of foam up there under the bowrider i'd bet weighs 200 pounds. It's gonna have to wait, crawling up there isn't topping the list and really the deck should come off. I was in there pulling off 20 pounds of sound deadoning material from the hull sides, so i'll repeat it's a convertible, it's a ski boat, the whole point is to feel hear and smell everything that's going on. you sit next to v8 designed in the sixties. If you want nvh go buy a ***************ing bentley. gif upload |
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TRBenj
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All these pics are really neat to see, thanks for sharing. Looks like 3/16” ish on the mains and 3/32 - 1/8” on the floor and secondaries?
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wayoutthere
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I wont get a picture of the inside of the engine stringers until they are opened up, that could be next week or in 1 1/2 years as there is a bigger project gearing up and will kick off at the last second. Meanwhile here some thickness pictures and i'll fill in the blanks and show an idea later when i got some time
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TRBenj
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I’ve seen the brochure, just trying to see what it looked like in real life… if you get a chance to take some pics, would be interesting to see
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wayoutthere
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TRBenj,
I'll cut and get a thickness and photograph the locations. Give me a couple days. When they laid up the stringers or afterwards a piece of 1/4 inch aluminum plate got boded to the inside of the stringers were the engine goes, maybe in the back too were the angle is lagged to the stringers for the rear hatch and tank support. I'm moving not sure when so focus is on prep for travel and winterize, hence cut it open get the water out and service the bearings. From the brochure |
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TRBenj
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Not looking for layer count, just thickness… if that’s easier to grab. Not following your comment on the “modified with aluminum”… perhaps a better description or pics would shed some light on how the boat was built? |
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wayoutthere
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Pitots are safe, made it back friday at 1300 hrs. We were extremely lucky.
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KENO
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I see the pitots escaped to Ohio with you.
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