GL-Thought you’d heard it all?

62 wood wrote:     While we're talkin noise....what about Harley's? Almost everyone I know has altered exhaust.... (removed mufflers with straight pipes) . Ive never heard of cops pulling them over for loud pipes... Im sure a lot of them are over the 86 limit... What gives?

    I could go on about this for hours.I can only speak about the law in N.H.(which changes quite frequently).The key to beating this is to be more educated than the people enforcing the laws.We have to perform a decible test on any altered motorcycle exhaust for inspection stickers.
   The law in NH is 106db max @2800rpm and is to be tested according to an SAE standard that I have a copy of,but is way too long to post.It basically states that a certain procedure must be followed PRECISELY and if used for law enforcement,leeway must be given if not performed to the EXACT procedure.You would be very surprised how particular the test description is,IE no wind over 5 mph,no grass,curbing,or obsticles over 6" tall within a 40 foot radius of tested vehicle,the meter must be at a precise angle and distance from the exhaust outlet,but can have no rigid means of measuring this distance actually attached to the meter.
     Basically, in court, it is an un-enforceable law.
I have not yet met any NH law enforcement officer that has been formally trained to use this piece of equipment,nor can anyone answer a direct question about the procedure without adding their own interpretation.
I am by no means a lawyer offering legal advise,just my experience.I know magnitudes of people that have been ticketed for excessive motorcycle exhaust noise...some just pay the fine....some go to court.None of my customers have gone to court armed with copies of the procedure(which can usually be found online) and lost their case.
The meter also has to be set to a certain response level and sound scale every time it is turned on,and if not done the meter can read as much as 10 decibles higher than it should.Not to mention the fact it is supposed to be calibrated every so often and the records of such calibtrations must be presented if asked for in court.
   Like I said, I could go on forever,I haven't even started to crack into this,but I'll spare you any more .
   The bottom line is it's about the money,not the noise.They want you just to pay your fine and go on your way.They're banking on the fact that your not going to take a day off from work to fight a non points violation,and risk losing more money.
In NH ,Reid's ticket at 1db over would have been thrown out by the DA before he even went into the courtroom.
   As a matter of fact,up here it has been beaten so many times that the police are not even allowed to test you for excessive exhaust noise unless there is more than one officer present to assist in the complicated procedure,and verify that it was followed properly.
   Bottom line....be polite,be friendly,and most of all...be educated.

Issues like these are part and parcel of large event gatherings - particularly one that has grown to be as big as the Green Lake Reunion. Permits, cooperation from local governing bodies and law enforcement, liability insurance, etc. are details that need to be worked out each year.

Dave has done an amazing job of getting these issues dealt with for the past two years, behind the scenes, and will likely be able to address them for '08.

Please remember that Dave and Alan donate a great deal of time and energy to the event simply because they want to see it happen. I owe a lot to them for what they have created in Green Lake. It's important to note that what keeps them motivated is the positive experience of the reunion. This event was the best boating weekend of the season for many of you who attended and hearing that is what makes it all worth the effort.

I am going to be working with Dave and Alan to get these things figured out. Your suggestions from the Reunion Survey will also help us create more worthwhile, engaging and memorable events.

I am confident that the event will take place again next year. We should have more information shortly as we work out this latest issue.

Thanks again for your support.

-Keith
Keith@CorrectCraftFan.com
CorrectCraftFan.com

Moj,

Chuck(the lake) and i are looking for alternative lakes to hold this event just in case Well lets hope it doesn't come to that. but..........???? You never know.

Good point chris(79nautique)& Gary(stang72).

I would guess Bill will be a big help with the politics...I would think that an anual event that is growing each year is a good new source of revinue that the town would not want to lose!

I wonder what the decible level was when all the CC's left all at once to go to the sand bar?

Hell the goose blind would go out of buisness without the Massive CC weekend Party crowd we bring to Gree Lake.

Out of all of those wooden boats on Green Lake i cant imagine that all of them pass the decible level.....especially with pipes on some of those Cris Crafts that are above the water level.......right?

Come on Moj.......Go over and start talkin to those meatheads

Ken, as usual, you find the perfect pic....

whata crime!!

farting and footing illegal?
i'm moving to australia.
lefty

What is this world coming to? Is farting in public going to be a fine now?...Rrrrrippp...$1,000 fine, sir...

Ken

This is a sad post. And it makes me dislike WI and law enforcement officers more. The Lake has a perfect example of how some dude can just use the law inappropriately to torture perfectly good citizens who are operating their boats (or whatever) in completely safe manners. It's like the IRS auditors who couldn't pass the CPA tests so they get jobs working for the IRS and go around trying to prove themselves to people. Geez.

Down here, we have a way of settling things with boys like that dnr guy, eh Boat Dr?

Yeah- someone tell the Gooseblind bar and you'll get a police escort back there

I dont think Barneys the real problem...heres a pic of the mayor of GL when he found out the CCF guys were coming back....

It is just dock and boat distance. I was just making lite of the situation. My point being that they'll interpret the law differently than we would but their interpretation is the one that counts.

Hollywood wrote: backfoot, use a 100' line. By the time you are off the dock and boat speed picks up faster than idle, you are over 100' away. Problem solved. We both know it'll still be a hassle trying to explain that to Barney and his sidekick, but based on the way they describe the law, it's legal.

HW, your own body would still be making a wake before the 100' marker! LOL!!!!! Barney would still be able to find some technicality to be able to cite you I'm sure.

backfoot, use a 100' line. By the time you are off the dock and boat speed picks up faster than idle, you are over 100' away. Problem solved. We both know it'll still be a hassle trying to explain that to Barney and his sidekick, but based on the way they describe the law, it's legal.

I think it is also illegal now for the skier to be within 100' of any dock, boat, or even S-N-W bouy however.

I use a 100' line here in WI.