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8122pbrainard
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Posted: November-27-2007 at 7:15pm |
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Adam, I still feel that the black plastic painted white and the top sanded off to make the lettering black would be appropriate. Plus, they are available.
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79nautique
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well I got hamerd on this years ago, but when I first bought my 79SN it did have the script metal ones on it, might have been replacements, might not, don't know. But I do know that the holes did not line up when I got the chrome/black replacements compared to what was there and they match closer to what Pat posted as org for his.
Now for those of you that keep putting off installing those new plastic emblems for fear of breaking them. This is what I did and they never broke for 5 years even taking a dock hit that scratched the one pretty good. But go to the hardware store get a tube of clear sealant in the caulking area. Apply a thin layer over the complete back surface before you mount them and wipe off the excess around the edges and your done and they will not break. Most of the time it's the water riping them off when you slow down or take off, so if they are glued to the side of the boat and sealed so water can't get behind them to ripe them off. |
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p/allen
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Sounds great Tim . Sorry about the misunderstanding .
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TRBenj
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Pat, I was talking about the earlier metal emblems that were used through '71. I didnt realize they made the switch for '72. Good info on the differences between the white/black and chrome/black plastic emblems. I think we all assumed they only varied in color. I may have to take some dimensions off your waterline stripe next year! |
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p/allen
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Quote Trbenj;(Id say add the metal (or chromed plastic) Correct Craft script emblems- those would have been original.)
Sorry Tim I cant support you on this one . I cant get a very good picture of the chrome one , which is new and I refuse to use . The first pic is of the chrome , good-ebay and broken original . You dont see as many with the white letters . I tried to put them on top of each other so you could see the difference . Notice that every letter is different and the mounting holes, none are the same . Hopefully this will give you an idea how different they are . A dead give away is the bottom of the (f) . Check white Lake Marine you will see . White Lake emblem |
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87BFN owner
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And so the mystery is solved. You were right Tim.
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p/allen
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Thanks Tim for the support.
Sorry guys . the title for the topic did not intrest me untill today . My boot stripe is 100% original . It is not paint . It is vinyl tape that you can get at west marine . They have 2 different thicknesses. I bought the boat from an old man that was pushing 70 back in 94 .He was the original owner . He was way past the point of caring about the boat . It sat on the shore for atleast 2 years that I can remember .This guy was not very ambitious at all . So I dont think he would have put it on . As a matter of fact I think he did more fishing than boating. If any one is going to need correct emblems for this era of boat I would not buy the new ones they are terribly different . I will take pics and post . The best thing to do is to watch Ebay then, good luck . The reason that my boat doesnt have any on is because they were broken and it looked better without . I did have some before GL. but didnt put them on , for fear of the being broken . I looked for nearly 10 years before I was able to find some that I could buy . |
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87BFN owner
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That sounds much better then working.
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jbear
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Right you are again...he isn't on much. BUt he is doing just fine. Like I said...we footed Friday and then took our wives out to dinner and a movie and finished the evening at his house drinking bourbon and coke and watching old show ski vids from their days with Badgerland. Awesome evening!
john |
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"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
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87BFN owner
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Jbear
If I get a week end off work I just may have to take you and Eddie up on your offer. Speaking of Eddie we have not heard from him in awhile. |
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jbear
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Right you are...but sometimes some fun stuff goes on here when guys are bored in the house.
And as always...if ANY C/CFANS get real bored...me and Eddie ain't put our boats away. Footed the day after Thanksgiving and already made our plans today for this Saturday. As they say on tv "c'mon down" john |
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"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
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87BFN owner
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It's winter time for lots of us, so CCFan seems to be put on the back burner until about Feb or March. I know I hate this time of year the site is a little slow on new topics.
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adamt
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Where is Pat anyway...how do I get his attention??? I still want to know if his "BOOT TOP" is in the original position!?!?
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-Adam
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adamt
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Yep, took the boat out yesterday for a run, it's been a month since we've been out. I'll have to change my tag line, could only get her to 42-43 mph.
It's the original speedo, and from some of the reading I've done, they're not so accurate anyway are they??? Who knows how fast/ slow I'm going?!? but it sure feels great!!! |
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-Adam
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87BFN owner
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So would that make a reborn CC owner???
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adamt
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Generic ones But in my defense, I purchased and installed them prior to knowing that CorrectCraftFan.com ever existed!!!But now I see the light!!! |
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-Adam
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8122pbrainard
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Pat! We've been looking for you and just noticed you posted in another thread. I wanted to bring this back to the top in the hopes you would see it. We have been debating wether or not the accent strip on your boat is original and or in the original location. Several postings above are the pictures.
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87BFN owner
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Quick thread jack, Eric check your email tonight.
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eric lavine
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I dont have my camera or i'd snap one, but it does have a pump which it is not a gear pump, it is ecentric with 7 springs and small puck like pieces, not vanes but the same principal as a vane pump...its pretty unique. you could easily drop a borg in place because the stack-up is the same, 4" flange, only thing is you would have to run a different damper
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8122pbrainard
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Tim, My wording was off! When I said "thought", I was confirming that Rileys had the self contained pump. The picture of the dual cav pump was just for Erik's benefit to show what the early versions were driven from. |
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TRBenj
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8122pbrainard
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I did think Riley's was a later version and had it's own pump because he did said it had ATF in it.
The ones that ran off the engine oil had this dual cavity pump on the engine. One side for the engine lube and the other side for the trans. |
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eric lavine
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thats identical to the one i rebuilt for Mike at sun in fun, its in a century, inovaters of the down angle???
Im doing Rileys now, its dam close to a BW on the spec sheet except for the input shaft, it does have its own oil pump unlike the one pictured which must run off engine oil pressure. i would think the boat companies approached ford engineering and they are the ones that came up with the dearbo...and then they were manufactured by company x, you know what i mean.... |
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8122pbrainard
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Sorry Eric I don't know him. Was he in the businees of restoration or was he doing his own boat? It sounds like he's been around for awhile but, on the other hand there are lots who have jumped into the "restoration" business in the past few years. It's why I always caution people who want a boat done to really do the research on whoever they are looking at.
Here's a late 50's Dearbo down angle. I'll bet everone here thinks PCM invented it!!! Not so!! It was rebuilt a couple years ago. Maybe it's the same one. |
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eric lavine
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Pete, do you know a guy named Frank, who supposedly publishes a Century magazine? I was talking with a guy out of Cincinnati who owns Sun n Fun marine, his name is Mike, and he restores old century's, actually he is the guy i did the dearbo for a few years back
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8122pbrainard
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Adam, That's the technique. I would however change one thing. Use a hard block (piece of wood) for sanding the paint off the top of the letters. I feel it will give you a sharper edge between the white and the black. The softer rubber block has a tendency to sand over the edges of the lettering.
The USA banners were coming from the factory in the early 70's on a lot of the models (my 70 Barracuda had them) However, I believe it was only the Tiques and Nautiques that had the AWSA decals. It was only for I'd say 4 or so years as I believe it had to do with the AWSA sanctioning those two boats. |
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adamt
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DrCC Wrote:If you are handy with a spray can and a rubber sanding block. You could have a pair exactly like these for under 40 dollars.
Here's how. Order new emblems from either Southeast or Midwest Correct Craft. Go to your local hardware store and buy 1 spray can of "Krylon Fusion" (Dover White) a 3M Rubber Sanding Block, 1 sheet of 400 grit, 1 sheet of 600 grit 3M Wet sand paper. Clean and spray emblems dover white. Let dry for over 24 hours. Wet sand lettering w/block, thru the white, thru the chrome, and wah-la, instant black on white emblems. PETE: I checked back through the site for that technique that you mentioned, this is it right? Sound like something even a simpleton like me can do !!! I'm going for it!!! But I gotta tell ya, I'm really thinking of the American Waterski Assn decals, I really love that vintage look they have. I see what you say, CC was not known for their consistancy, were they?!? |
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-Adam
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TRBenj
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I just copy/paste or edit the code. Still waiting for Pat to chime in- I got to see his boat up close and it looks all original to me. Just the way I like it! |
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8122pbrainard
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Tim, I've been meaning to ask: How do you get two quotes from different posts just like you did above. Do you just click on each "quote" icon in each of the posts?
Thanks by the way for pointing out that Adams boat has been painted. Missed it! |
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