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    Posted: January-06-2008 at 5:41pm
About the same as in Indy 3.0, 3.30 & 3.40 for Shell at some stations. Can not understand why there is so much diff. depending on the side of town. Some stations can be as much as .15 less.
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Filled up Patti's '93 5.0 Mustang convertable on the way home from Church...mid-range Shell...$3.32/gal.


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Im re-thinking what im gonna drive, i need to switch from luxury to economy, im to cheap to fill my car up and if it breaks down and i have to leave it on the freeway, i dont want to have a full tank of gas in it, i start sweating when the gas pump hits 50 bucks
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Growing up, I never kept a vehicle for more than a year and a half. I never had to sink money into repairs, but man, those car bills kept coming monthy! I've had my truck title for more than two years now, right beside my boat title.

I have to say, I miss a couple of my former vehicles. In '93 I purchased a bright red '91 Toyota Supra turbo with the targa top. It had 9,000 miles when I drove it off the lot sideways. I had some HKS mods done to it, $8K worth of stereo equipment. I'll post a pic sometime. That car was mint. I sold it for a brand new loaded Nissan Pathfinder. I drove that for three months, got rid of it for a brand new Nissan Maxima SE, black with black leather interior. That was more my speed. What a beautifully made car the Maxima is.

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Trust me that warranty was not free you paid for it somewhere. But it's the thought that counts right. That's cool that it includes all the wear items.


That may be but it encourages the factory to put out well-built cars (although they do anyway) and I'll see it on the resale side. The car doesn't require much maintenance anyway- an oil change every 15k miles (depending on driving habits, cold starts, etc.- monitored by computer), a couple air filters, and maybe one set of brakes in that time period.
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Our '96 Suburban's fuel pump quit last fall about 70 miles from home. AAA towed it to a dealership about 1 mile from my house. The estimate was $795 for the pump, but if a certain part was too rusted and couldn't be removed easily, it would be $1,200.

I call my regular mechanic that lives 2 towns away and he said he'd do it for $495. He said the dealer would never take the time to remove the rusted part and it would difinately be $1,200 with them, (he used to work there). I told the dealer to push it out into the parking. They still charged me $130 to diagnose.
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there is a bad mis conception about taking things back to the dealership, it is definitely something mental. some people think you get high quality work from the dealership...(especially with bodyshops) My father in law is one of them, he had a newer honda that got rear ended, about $5500 in damage and he insisted it go to the dealership for the repairs, i new if we got the car we would of used all Honda parts... well wouldnt you know after the repair, i looked at the tail lights and deck lid. those bastards used after market lights...and the paint was 2 shades off... i just kept my mouth shut
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We just took the wife's BMW in for service. New 02 sensor, front BRAKES and ROTORS, and input seal on the differential. Loaner car for the whole day as well. The cost? ZERO DOLLARS. Gotta love the 4 year/35,000 mile maintenance and new car warranty. Zero out of pocket for anything done in that time period, even wear items and oil changes. Keeps the resale value high since you know all the maintenance was done for the first 4 years of the car's life since it was FREE. Love it.


Good Deal, Last summer after I passed the 60,000 mile warranty by 1200 miles on the company Pontiac the water pump started leaking and Air conditioning compressor went out at the same time. $1200, pay the girl on the way out please,thank you, come again.

I know if I had bought the extended warranty it would run for ever without breaking down.
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Trust me that warranty was not free you paid for it somewhere. But it's the thought that counts right. That's cool that it includes all the wear items.
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Hey Scott: Just check where "Lake Wales" is on your map. Right in the center of the state. Stop by and we'll show ya a good time and take you for a boat ride. We love C/CFAN visitors.

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Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

   Last year after replacing every moving piece in the front end of my motorhome I could still not find a mindnumbing squeak so I finally broke down and brought it in to my mechanic. After a $900 repair bill the end result was they couldn't find it either.


Don't you love that kind of service. A couple years ago I was having trouble with my supra. After going though all the obvious ignition/electrical stuff, I concluded my carb needed work. I took it to a mechanic and told him my carb needed work. He fiddled with all the electrical and ignition stuff (which was all ok) told me my carb needed work, and that he didnt want to do the work, and charged me $140. (thank you sir, may I have another)
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That warranty would last me about a year and a half.
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We just took the wife's BMW in for service. New 02 sensor, front BRAKES and ROTORS, and input seal on the differential. Loaner car for the whole day as well. The cost? ZERO DOLLARS. Gotta love the 4 year/35,000 mile maintenance and new car warranty. Zero out of pocket for anything done in that time period, even wear items and oil changes. Keeps the resale value high since you know all the maintenance was done for the first 4 years of the car's life since it was FREE. Love it.
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Let's face it, if you pick your car up from the mechanic and you paid less than $500, they didn't really do anything to it.

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No Kidding, Last year after replacing every moving piece in the front end of my motorhome I could still not find a mindnumbing squeak so I finally broke down and brought it in to my mechanic. After a $900 repair bill the end result was they couldn't find it either. That was basically a $900 chassis lube for both the motorhome and me!!!

The ultimate fix was to install a new stereo system and crank it up while driving.
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Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:

Believe me...you get spoiled soon. We enjoy the snow...while we watch it on the tv. Snow is always the first item on the evening news.
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John - I must be getting old, because I'm hating Winter more and more each year. 8 degrees this am !
My folks are down in Margate. They go earlier and come back later each year!
I think I need to crank the Motorhome up and head South!

Ken - I'm with you, Engines suck when you're not good enough to do all the work yourself!
Looks like you've got everything running good now though. Forget about what you've spent and enjoy!
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It'll warm up soon for him.

Sorry about your Mom. Bet your Dad misses her...don't know what I'd do without Patti.

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My parents have not been in the "Great White North" for over 20 yrs.Mom passed away this year and Dad delayed going down til the 2nd week of December.It pained me to see him try to stick it out but after 2 snows and taking me to work so he could use my Jeep to get around,he decided to get going so he could enjoy some of that 30 degree weather!
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Believe me...you get spoiled soon. We enjoy the snow...while we watch it on the tv. Snow is always the first item on the evening news.

Next time you visit your folks in Naples you gotta roll thru Lake Wales on your way down.

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wow- 27 is pretty nippy for Fla. I'll bet it's got some people freaked.
My folks can't wait to leave NH and get back to Naples. Never knew my Dad hated snow this bad. Guess he's spoiled now by the Fla winters.
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Hey Brad...I am back inside now. It was 27 out this morning when we headed out to work. Everyone down here is in a panic. Does feel cold tho...windy too. We just ain't used to this anymore. Warmer by the weekend tho.

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You got it Ken. Happy New Year to you too
Hope you're staying warm these days- pretty nippy here on LL- 5 above tonight. Wood stoves have been keeping us nice and toasty though.

JBear must be out covering his plants tonight-temps have been under 50 in Fla. lately.hahaha
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Thanks, Brad. The good news is that it was fixable. At least I didn't need a new engine. We're running like a top again.

Happy New Year, Brad. Lost Lake in 4 months?

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Let's face it, if you pick your car up from the mechanic and you paid less than $500, they didn't really do anything to it.

These days up here in NE, if you don't have a heated garage- you pay the mechanic.

Nothing is cheap these days.
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Oh, man, sounds like I got the dry carrot here. Tim, can I have you for all my needs? I'm trusting. I have to say, my *uck is very strong. I got the shaft, but feeling good.

A whore I wish I was more of.

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I let mine sieze cause im pretty lazy when it comes to fixing my own stuff, i had to puill the radiator and harmonic balance, it was a all dayer, the belt wrapped around the balancer and took out the seal...it created a ton of problems for me, next time i hear a squeel I'll put some belt dressing on it. lol
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Don't feel too bad ken that idler pulley would have seized and left you dead on the side of the road at some point and maybe your getting a half mpg better with the clean injectors... with oil at 100 a barrel that would pay for it all...
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Oh, man, sounds like I got the dry carrot here. Tim, can I have you on retainer for all my repair needs? This is insane. I guess I'm too trusting. I have to say, my truck is running very strong. I hate to think I got the shaft, but I'm feeling good with the end result.

What the heck would cause a spark plug to go bad? The idler pully was squealing like a whore. That needed to be replaced. I wish I was more of a grease monkey.

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Here is a question i must ask and hopefully someone will know because i dont, I am wondering if i can use this scanner OTC Genisys, on boats, of course im talking about late style with EFI and so on.....do they have a obdII port to scan them? i would think they do and i think i can use the Global scan feature on the scanner. its hard to believe the information this scanner tells you,
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The plugs that Ken replaced 20k or so ago, he forgot to factor in the possibility of how many times they were dropped before they were installed in his truck. Sorry ken I agree with the rest of the guys you got the Midas touch on that one.
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I'll vouge for the mis fire on one cylinder, i had a rough running VW cabrio and the light was on, it was a normal, cap, plugs and wires ignition, no coil packs. my scanner told me it was a misfire on the number one cylinder, the customer replaced the plugs and cap a week before so i knew those two were not the problem. put a set of wires on and cured the problem, ...I read Joe's post and have a feeling he is 100%, because i dont know how it picked up the mis-fire on number 1 and i was curious as hell on how it did it.
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