New Nautique Production System

eric lavine wrote: Riley, there not increasing productivity, they are taking advantage of supply and demand, a Base boat starts around 40k, and go all the way up to 100k, in my eyes there are no new revalations out there, 20 years ago the ski boats were designed to pull skiers and that hasnt changed, they are still designed to pull skiers. all they simply are doing is turning this into a rich mans sport or a rich kids sport so the average avid skier like you and i cant afford to drop 60k on a boat, we could but we would need a heavy 2nd on the house, i think its called capitalizing, they are making more boats nowadays and believe me, they are getting top dollar and top profit, WHY? because they can

Aren't they going to have to increase productivity to pay for that new building and stay competitive? Otherwise why do it? When I toured their plant, they didn't strike me as a rich company, but they didn't strike me as a company with much debt. They reminded me of the downeast boat yards you see in Maine that turn out really nice stuff. I hope timing isn't going to be a problem for them.

I called gw BUSH and he said no problem filling us in on the new system,

I have seen the STOVL, short take of vertical landing, version of the F35 JSF. There are two in the production line right now and one out in flight test. The first flight is schedule this year although the first aircraft won't initially use the vertical landing. The second I think would use the STOVL system and the third is for static test. I can't wait to see it action. The other day we had an V-22 tilt rotor aircraft land here in Ft. Worth. The whole experience of seen an aircraft suspended in the air felt weird. Have you see the design of the STOVL system? I think it was amazing how they solved the problems that the Harrier has, like the potential of hot air intake and sub-sonic speed. I saw the first flight of the first JSF and it was amazing. It looks so deadly and when is running the engine is loud. I has so much power that it took off quickly. We had the first STOVL handoff to flight test ceremony the other day. The Marines generals were here. I don't know if it was intentionally but as they were walking out the door the convententional 1st JSF was taking off. They got really excited when they saw it. Sorry for the long post but I am proud of it. I was in the team that desing the software for the electrical power. Who knows if my kid end up flying one of these.

Riley, there not increasing productivity, they are taking advantage of supply and demand, a Base boat starts around 40k, and go all the way up to 100k, in my eyes there are no new revalations out there, 20 years ago the ski boats were designed to pull skiers and that hasnt changed, they are still designed to pull skiers. all they simply are doing is turning this into a rich mans sport or a rich kids sport so the average avid skier like you and i cant afford to drop 60k on a boat, we could but we would need a heavy 2nd on the house, i think its called capitalizing, they are making more boats nowadays and believe me, they are getting top dollar and top profit, WHY? because they can

Nothing to do about boats,but we've been on the sigma six method for a couple of years.Best thing ever.Normally they are begging you to take days off this time of year,but this year their begging us to work and in some cases making it mandatory.Never in my 31 yrs has this much money been available this early,being mostly 0 out makes it blood money tho.Can't wait until spring when it starts to melt.Needless to say the sigma six has been abandoned since the beginning of Feburary

All companies need to continuously improve - they can only live off their reputation for so long. Eventually the competition(if doing CI) will catch up to them & surpass them.

Competition is healthy & the consumer benefits.

I think CC's plans are great & totally necessary for survival in the long haul.

Chris

M3Fan wrote: anthonylizardi wrote: Look at the F16, born in 1974 still state of the art and very capable. Agreed, but it hasn't seen much competition in that time from other nations.

Agree, there is no competition when you are two step ahead of them. That's why we spend a lot in R&D. The Eurofigther would have been a great competition but they were too late. That's what happen when you have a wing build in Spain and another in Italy. That's just an example. Now we have F22, a lovely beast. Expensive too, but you get what you paid, that's why we like Correct Craft.

anthonylizardi wrote: Look at the F16, born in 1974 still state of the art and very capable.

Agreed, but it hasn't seen much competition in that time from other nations.

Many corporations rolled out "Six Sigma" years ago.
Identify waste and eliminate it.
Identify wasted effort and eliminate it.
Identify suppliers of defective parts/equipment and eliminate them.

Bottom line is, monitor everything and change nothing.... They usually find that it costs more than the return on the investment and is shelved.

Roger

Joel bad words just bad words...

hey off topic a little who's got the uglist towers nowa days? centurion, have you seen them lately, butt ugly junk is all I saw at the boat show over the week-end pretty sad looking stuff if you ask me.

79nautique wrote: there's not a whole lot of areas to change your not building a boat using a robot to lay-up the hull completely.

Malibu churns out boats that are GREAT boats and are built in what appears to be a much more efficient fashion. Notice how once they switched to their FIBECS stringer system, they absolutely took off as a company. There's no way that CC could NOT consider changing their techniques after seeing successes like this, IMO. Malibu is doing very well and I'm sure something could be learned from their building techniques. Again, just throwing it out there.

yea nobody wants to be told they are wrong even if you have cold hard facts in front of them and it's clearly an issue they are causing.

I totally agree with 79. It won't change anything. For example, I was evaluating a test station for an Engine Controller. We did a process map and then a FMEA (failure mode evaluation analysis). We determine were the problems might be. We started taking data on the pressure controlles and compare three other standard. At the end we found that the current controller were not optimized for the range of the test and that the calibration tool had a drift over time. This reduced 80% of false failures on that test station and the metrology people wanted to kill me because I proved their equipment was crap.

One of my concerns is that perhaps one process to be streamlined would be, say, building the floor into the boat. And building stringers into a boat by hand. Wouldn't it be easier and more streamlined to pre-fab this stuff and glue it down? Oh wait- other companies already do that...

Just seeding conversation here.

M3Fan wrote: Will this help drive the value of the old "hand built" boats? It sure has in the realm of musical instruments, although I realize it's a totally different industry.

won't change a damn thing