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eric lavine
Grand Poobah
Joined: August-13-2006
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Points: 13413
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 5:11pm |
im trying to think of something to say, i wanna get yelled at....i got it, I love Mastercrafts
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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Hollywood
Moderator Group
Joined: February-04-2004
Location: Twin Lakes, WI
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Points: 13513
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 5:14pm |
****** eric ****** what ****** brunstucky ****** shaft ****** beer ******
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Kristof
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Joined: October-08-2007
Location: Bree, Belgium
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Points: 3397
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 5:30pm |
I for one have stomac ache from laughing...
But aside from that... I'm lost at all these technical explainations from the "Grand Poobah"s here... I don't know what to do anymore
Will you boys stop trowing grenades at each other and start explaining it to a complete engineering nitwit like me...?? On top of that... I ran out of beer and chips... damn!!!
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- Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle...
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75 Tique
Grand Poobah
Joined: August-12-2004
Location: Seven Lakes, NC
Status: Offline
Points: 6121
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 5:34pm |
TRBenj wrote:
Should I put a disclaimer in all of my posts? |
Probably not a bad idea Tim. If I recall correctly, didn't the woman from Florida with the 68-72 Mastercraft Correct Craft Jet Drive dub you "Oh Great Clueless One"?
eric lavine wrote:
im trying to think of something to say, i wanna get yelled at....i got it, I love Mastercrafts |
Oh, Eric you must mean a Stars & Stipes boat which, again, if I recall correctly, pertains to all and every 70s and 80s Mastercraft that had the panel down the side with the stars lined up in it. That is correct isnt it?
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_____________ “So, how was your weekend?†“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.â€
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tullfooter
Grand Poobah
Joined: March-02-2007
Location: White Lake, MI
Status: Offline
Points: 2225
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 5:36pm |
OK boys, recess is over.
Steve
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Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN
White Lake, Michigan
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TRBenj
Grand Poobah
Joined: June-29-2005
Location: NWCT
Status: Offline
Points: 21169
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 5:40pm |
Larry, her exact quote was "apparentley you dont have a clue on correct craft." Maybe she was right?
Kristoff, Im just impressed that you could understand any of that. English is my native language and I still cant follow that argument.
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75 Tique
Grand Poobah
Joined: August-12-2004
Location: Seven Lakes, NC
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Points: 6121
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 5:49pm |
Kristof wrote:
Will you boys stop trowing grenades at each other and start explaining it to a complete engineering nitwit like me...??
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Kristof, I know nothing about all of that stuff as well, but I've been around here long enough to give you a loose translation. It all pretty much means,
"Go out, enjoy your boat, have fun."
I'm pretty sure that's all that really matters
(Tim and Chris, not putting down your "discussion". I'm always impressed with your collective knowledge. Just trying to put it in terms I can understand.)
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_____________ “So, how was your weekend?†“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.â€
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Hollywood
Moderator Group
Joined: February-04-2004
Location: Twin Lakes, WI
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Points: 13513
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 5:50pm |
Whenever Kristof posts it turns into an argument.
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79nautique
Grand Poobah
Joined: January-27-2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 7872
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 5:54pm |
Kristof,
in a nut shell since the climat, and boat's are very diferent your results won't be the same has others have seen on there boat's. Don't worry about limiting the rpm right now you have to find out what your max rpm is currently before you start changing props otherwise you most likely will be wasting your money and get the wrong prop, shipping not an issue here in the states if we make a mistake, but over there it's a little diferent story. So once you have a base line for your RPM, then you need to figure out what diameter and pitch prop is currently on it that you got that RPM. Don't worry about over reving the motor, your not just find some smooth water make sure the motor's up to operating temp then nail it and let max out. listen to the motor and make sure it doesn't start to ping on you if it does back off get the tune right and go back out and try again. You not going to run it for very long at WOT just long enough to know that's all she's got to give then slowly back off the throttle and cruise and enjoy the day. Now once we have the Max RPM and know the prop's spec then you can decide what you need and that is based on the rpm so you may need more pitch or cup to lower the rpm or you may need less to raise it. Too many variables to say yes this is exactly what you need and if anyone tells you otherwise there full of it and blowing smoke up your tush.
also don't have the boat loaded down with fatsacks or a lot of gear as that will reduce the rpm and give you a bad reading to go by.
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Kristof
Grand Poobah
Joined: October-08-2007
Location: Bree, Belgium
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Points: 3397
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 6:02pm |
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- Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle...
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Kristof
Grand Poobah
Joined: October-08-2007
Location: Bree, Belgium
Status: Offline
Points: 3397
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 6:05pm |
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- Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle...
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TRBenj
Grand Poobah
Joined: June-29-2005
Location: NWCT
Status: Offline
Points: 21169
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 6:07pm |
79nautique wrote:
you most likely will be wasting your money and get the wrong prop,
then you need to figure out what diameter and pitch prop is currently on it |
All that is fine and dandy, and not necessarily bad advice there Chrissy- but no one is suggesting Kristoff buy a new prop. Im pretty sure he's going to run the 470 since thats what came on the boat when he bought it.
Kristoff, please do give us the results (RPM vs. speed) of that prop on your boat when you finally get out there and run it. The more data points, the better!
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shawnmc
Senior Member
Joined: March-17-2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 282
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 6:12pm |
I am trying to follow but having a hard time as this is all new to me.(Not the fighting ...just the mechanics!).
79 I have an Acme 540 ordered for my 86, but i have definetly not tested out my max rpm like you suggested. Am i screwed?
P.s. Not to sound like a dumb*****, but can someone explain the ratio on the transmissions. Any questions about diabetes, blood pressure, cholesterol or blood thinners i can handle from you guys. Transmissions....i am screwed!
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Hollywood
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Joined: February-04-2004
Location: Twin Lakes, WI
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Points: 13513
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 6:16pm |
shawn you'll be fine, that was a great choice. 79 is getting technical, looking for that 2-3 mph gain that the rest of us don't really care about. I don't think anyone is skiing at WOT besides myself.
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BuffaloBFN
Grand Poobah
Joined: June-24-2007
Location: Gainesville,GA
Status: Offline
Points: 6094
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 6:50pm |
Hollywood wrote:
I don't think anyone is skiing at WOT besides myself. |
LMAO!
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1988 BFN-sold"It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO
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tullfooter
Grand Poobah
Joined: March-02-2007
Location: White Lake, MI
Status: Offline
Points: 2225
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 7:12pm |
I'm going to have to buy a laptop so that I can follow this thread while on vacation next week.
If not, I'll have to find a computer to get my fix.
Steve
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Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN
White Lake, Michigan
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skicat
Platinum Member
Joined: May-18-2006
Location: Duluth, GA
Status: Offline
Points: 1129
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Posted: March-20-2008 at 7:26pm |
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jbear
Grand Poobah
Joined: January-21-2005
Location: Lake Wales FL.
Status: Offline
Points: 8193
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 12:20am |
I bneen watching the ads too Steve....to much fun here...I'll never be able to be away for 3 weeks in Tennessee this year.
eric; Now that he has visited in person...I see where HW understands about brunstucky.
Kristoff; I just reach for the Beam and Coke when these guys get goin'...I don't understand none of it either...but I sure enjoy reading it!
john
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"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"...
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eric lavine
Grand Poobah
Joined: August-13-2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13413
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 12:29am |
J-bear, you sure do visit them there mountain regions an awful lot, you got kin there too?
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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jbear
Grand Poobah
Joined: January-21-2005
Location: Lake Wales FL.
Status: Offline
Points: 8193
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 12:47am |
sure do...lotsa kissin' cuzins.
john
you're on kinda late...still at the shop?
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"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"...
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eric lavine
Grand Poobah
Joined: August-13-2006
Location: United States
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Points: 13413
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 10:35am |
i bet there some banjo players in the bunch,
Kris, you sure know how to rally the troops,
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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Riley
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Joined: January-19-2004
Location: Portland, ME
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Points: 7953
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 11:07am |
79, Why you get so personal? I've met Tim B and one thing he aint is arrogant. What's this east coast bunk you keep throwing in there?
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quinner
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Joined: October-12-2005
Location: Unknown
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Points: 5828
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 12:44pm |
I think it's time for a group hug, come on Chrissy... Timmy, where are you? You know HW is in!!
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NAUTI84
Senior Member
Joined: June-10-2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 485
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 1:04pm |
WOW!
Glad I stopped in. Some good Friday reading.
Geez Chris you're hurting our East Coast feelings!
Maybe we're just those "typical white persons" that Barak is talking about??
All in all, you motor guys amaze me, squeek-out those extra couple HP all the time.
Wish I had some of that knowledge to rip apart an engine. (For me it's just knowing enough to keep it running. With help from this forum of course!)
Love hearing about all these little tweaks you guys do, but I'm still impressed with the bone stock nautique.
Mine can still rip my arms out and I never needed it to go any faster.
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Kristof
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 1:11pm |
CQ, I'm in too
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- Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle...
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79nautique
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Joined: January-27-2004
Location: United States
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Points: 7872
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 1:14pm |
in this case the boat needs alot of torque coming out of the hole, which means your going to have to spin it faster on the low end, which is decreasing the pitch and or diameter, so that you can get all of the skiers out of the water at once. The only problem is then on the top end when you don't have any skier's it revs too high so you have to be careful otherwise the motor goes boom. It's not any different than what the wake boards experince in the older boats when they load it down with fatsaks and then it won't come out of the hole.
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Hollywood
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Location: Twin Lakes, WI
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 2:15pm |
quinner wrote:
I think it's time for a group hug, come on Chrissy... Timmy, where are you? You know HW is in!!
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shirts or no shirts?
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skicat
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Joined: May-18-2006
Location: Duluth, GA
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 2:24pm |
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eric lavine
Grand Poobah
Joined: August-13-2006
Location: United States
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Points: 13413
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 3:01pm |
Kristoff's in too... she never would've known
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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Keith
Admin Group
Owner / Operator of CorrectCraftFan.com
Joined: October-20-2003
Location: Pepperell, MA
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Posted: March-21-2008 at 5:15pm |
Okay, I think this post has been hijacked enough. Time to close it out.
-Keith
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