No one complaining?

I agree with Chuck. It is nice we can talk abou this and not get all worked up and defensive. Just some good old conversation among friends.

Mark Mel wrote: Just paid $3.619 for 89 in CT at costco no less. Argh Wonder if a motorcycle can pull a boat. My durango only gets 12.9 miles to the gal.

$3.72 at Costco Sacramento yesterday. BKH

Riley wrote: I've already warned the kids, dads not having a charge this year. No more filling up and signing for it. They're going to have to use their own money.

Bruce,
Im not sure..does that constitute child abuse?

Riley wrote: I've already warned the kids, dads not having a charge this year. No more filling up and signing for it. They're going to have to use their own money.

Bruce, I'm surprised that you have done it as long as you have. I grew up on the lake with the privilege of signing for my gas but I never passed it on to my kids. We would pay until they had jobs (at 15) and then they started contributing. How old are your children? My son is 22 and my daughter is 20. We don't get gas at the marinas anymore ether. Gas totes from town. Then a fuel rated hose from the top of the hill connected to the totes with quick connect cam fittings. Then it's a gravity fill to the boats.

Part of the problem is the low dollar also.The thing that really gets me tho is when I see kids or their mothers driving to school.The bus is already going there and I'm paying for the gas in it too!
Pete,I never payed for gas until I got my own car,I worked for my Dad until I was 17 and thats how I got payed. One time when I was young I got the idea in my head that I should get the same pay as his other employees.He sat me down and explained to me that that was a great idea but I would have to start paying for food and drink just like them.I decided I didn't need that raise.He still laughs about that today.We had a nine ride amusement park with a consession stand and never had to ask to eat anything.All the kids thought it was neat to be able to ride anything,but the best part was all the pop and ice cream.

it boils down too, they got it we need it and we will pay for it, if gas shot up tommorow to $10.00 a gallon what would you do?...... there is nothing you could do except fill your tank up and hand the man a $100.00 bill.
we are f-d
there is nothing this government can do about the price of oil, boycott.... yeah right
the change has to come from you and me, we can not keep fueling other countries economy with our BUYING habits. we have to buy within to the best of our abilities. we as consumers have control, we are no longer the -best customer- and we are starting to be treated that way.
the need for fuels has increased dramatically world wide and the price of oil is consumer driven.

Let's just admit we are part of the problem as owners of pleasure boats & gas guzzling tow vehicles. I'm going to buy a V8 truck within the next month. I freely admit that I am going to enjoy my gas-guzzling hobby up until the time I can't both feed my family & buy fuel.

Gas will continue to go up - price controls don't work in a world economy.

Congressional inquiries are just show-business that diverts our attention away from the fact that Congress is not solving real problems that they CAN do something about.

Just my opinion, now let's go boating while we still can afford it!

IZE=6]Tim D wrote:

heard somebody talking the other day and they said it took a $1.67 (I think) of fuel to produce a gallon of ethanol

Hearing that makes me curious what ethanol companies break even point is. I've heard from a few different people that claim when they first tried to introduce ethanol in the early 80's, the oil companies waited for their plants to be up and running then dropped their prices below what ethanol could be produced. I guess it didn't take long for ethanol to go off the radar. I've also heard that oil companies can make money at $10.00 a barrel. If there is any truth to all of that, I can see why the economy was the way it was in the '80's.
I'm all for renewable resources, whether it is ethanol, bio deisel, used fyer oil at KFC, or what ever else they come up with. I just hope the powers that be have done there homework, and it doesn't come back to bite us in the butt.

we are creatures of habit, i stop every 2 days and put $20 bucks in. At this point i am willing to seek out diesel fuel if need be and fill up once a week,
from knowing many Europeons and maybe Kris will jump in for years when they look for a car the first thing they look at is the mileage the car gets, they are use to paying high prices for fuel and his opinion would be very valid. I dont think they drive for fashion over there and i dont think you'll see alot of hummers buzzing around, they drive for necessity as with a toaster in your kitchen, it is a toaster and does one thing, toasts bread no matter how you look at it

Gary, i may be wrong but for some reason I think tax on fuel is per gallon and not a percentage, i dont think its the taxes on fuels that is creating high fuel costs.
watch any show you can on Dubai off the coast of Saudi Arabia and you'll start to get a feeling on why fuel costs what it does. there are 2 things in abundance in the Middle East, sand and oil...make that three, AK-47's
we dont need sand we have enough here. the Saudi's realize that the fuel in the ground will come to an end in our lifetimes and they are gearing up for tourism to replace the monies generated from crude. we are allies with SA and all crude producing countries and when Sadaam stepped into Kuwait the Alliances kicked in....years earlier we were swapping arms for crude with him.
This whole mess we are in with Afghanistan and Iraq, has nothing to do with hate or whatever were told to believe it has nothing to do with cruelty to the human race such as nerve gas and mass killings....this is common practice in Africa, they use machetes daily on families over there and if we were humane we would have police action there.
its got to do with Black gold. and the evil it creates and wars are fought over it and lives end because of it. we are dependent on crude and do need alternatives and it would be a benefit for the human race as a whole

eric lavine wrote: Gary, i may be wrong but for some reason I think tax on fuel is per gallon and not a percentage, i dont think its the taxes on fuels that is creating high fuel costs. watch any show you can on Dubai off the coast of Saudi Arabia and you'll start to get a feeling on why fuel costs what it does. there are 2 things in abundance in the Middle East, sand and oil...make that three, AK-47's we dont need sand we have enough here. the Saudi's realize that the fuel in the ground will come to an end in our lifetimes and they are gearing up for tourism to replace the monies generated from crude. we are allies with SA and all crude producing countries and when Sadaam stepped into Kuwait the Alliances kicked in....years earlier we were swapping arms for crude with him. This whole mess we are in with Afghanistan and Iraq, has nothing to do with hate or whatever were told to believe it has nothing to do with cruelty to the human race such as nerve gas and mass killings....this is common practice in Africa, they use machetes daily on families over there and if we were humane we would have police action there. its got to do with Black gold. and the evil it creates and wars are fought over it and lives end because of it. we are dependent on crude and do need alternatives and it would be a benefit for the human race as a whole

Eric, we think alike...

Kristof

ive heard nothing about diesel on here, i have 2 deisel trucks, one being a work truck that hauls tile and saws around, that thing cost me 147.00 to fill up today. 4.31 a gallon, its crazy. i ended up buying a little boat to wakeskate behind because i cant even see being able to use my CC everyday like i want....

aint going down, im sitting here thinking that i have to gas on the way, its up too 25.00 every 2 days now

Man, I think Im begining to like my 6 beater and its 12 gallon tank more all the time...
One nice thing about the river, Pam and I will just shut the boat off, jump in the back seat and watch the world go by. May do more of that this summer.. Thats even cheaper than the pontoona...

the true 100% fact. on one gallon of gasoline there is a 18.4 cent federal tax on it
i dont think the government is causing the higher costs